Steve and Jessica were happily married for seven years until Steve came out as gay which inevitably ended in divorce. Now, Matt and Jessica have been happily married for six years.  The three of them have a co-parenting relationship and friendship that, by most standards, would be considered atypical.

Sharing stories of love, marriage, children, divorce, the struggles of religious norms, homosexuality, and trying to be our best selves, they hold nothing back and share what most people are scared to talk about. Listen in as they take you on this journey of learning how to love and accept themselves enough to love and accept others for who they are during this experience called “Life”. 

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