I am glad that California is showing the way for marriage equality. A great deal of out-of-state money came into Cal, in the passage of Prop8. The Supreme court was quite correct in finding the Prop to be unconstitutional. Same-gender marriage is now legal where are 30% of the American people live. And people can travel out of state for marriage, and then return to their state of residence, and the state must recognize their marriage (See Williams v. North Carolina, 1940).
MaryannJuly 11, 2013
I was living in California at the time we were asked to go door-to-door and talk with people about the merits of Prop 8. It was very discouraging to have a victory and then to have it thrown out. However, we cannot allow ourselves to give up the fight to protect marriage, and we MUST NOT have an attitude that defeat is unavoidable. There is more here at stake than marriage. The issue has become whether we as a nation will continue to be governed by the voice of the people.
Harold RustJuly 10, 2013
I see a strong analogy to a supreme court decision that truly angered Lincoln and was a key factor in his wanting to run for president. That decision was made in the Dred Scot case.
Think of the parallels: There was a very vocal minority who were thinking only of their "right" to own slaves. The judges were influenced by their perception of national sentiment rather than law and the facts. The decision was made to look "legal" only by defining a slave as "property" rather than as a person.
Lincoln was respectful of that decision, but then found his own way to completely dismantle it and bring about the will of the majority. At a time when it looked to be inevitable that slavery would work its way into every state of the nation, one dedicated man found a legal, ethical, and eventually popular way to do that.
We must find that way to safeguard and preserve marriage.
Linda SheffieldJuly 10, 2013
I live in California where we now have a Lieutenant Governor who should have been thrown in jail for breaking the law in the first place and politicians who are only in office as a popularity/media contest. Those with the money get their way and the people who care enough to work and vote have their rights trampled by the legislators and the judges. Corruption and violence were the words used to describe the times when Noah lived. They are an apt description of our day.The frightening thing is, we are still responsible to stand for truth and right in these times when we are as likely to be threatened and persecuted by our government as we are by those who have an opposing view.
Linda PowellJuly 9, 2013
Ah. The Book of Mormon. Written for our time because history is repeating itself.
CharlieBrown2292July 9, 2013
President Nixon was impeached for less than that! The future of Democracy is at stake if nothing is done to ensure that the voice of the American people remains stronger than that of Judges and Supreme Court Justices.
grant nicholasJuly 9, 2013
Well now I can marry my granddaughter ( in name only) and when I die the ranch is hers .....no inheritance tax......ha ha ah IRS
Debby BennettJuly 8, 2013
Gender identity confusion reigns supreme. Marriage was invented by God and His definition stands. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Any other combination isn't marriage. What it is is a creation of further mass confusion. Some things are forever, and some things cannot ever be.
ARTJuly 8, 2013
Here is an article that explains better what the SCOTUS ruling really means to the democratic process.
https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/07/10498/
I think the fact that the California governor and the State of California attorney general did is nothing short of tyrannic and has deeply rooted grounds for impeachment.
Peter BellvilleJuly 8, 2013
The animosity referred to must be a projection by judge Kennedy of his own animus toward prop 8 supporters.
JaceJuly 8, 2013
As a resident of California the decision about Proposition 8 scares me to death because it effectively means that if elected officials disagree with a law, any law, they can effectively veto it after the fact by simply choosing not to defend it in court. Those on both sides of this issue should be equally concerned by that decision of the court because now that legal precedent has been set the door can swing both directions and those celebrating the decision today could be hurt by it in another case over a different issue. Such authority for this new form of "veto" has never been a part of the law but now the courts have created it and we will all have to live with it. God help us when this new "veto" begins to be used more and more to undermine the freedoms and rights that we have enjoyed as a people.
PalJuly 8, 2013
I'm not sure what we as lay people can do, or which family supportive group to give money to. Could you please let us know, and perhaps all readers could give $10 a month to help support those who support our traditional families!
Thanks!
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Charles E. MartinJuly 12, 2013
I am glad that California is showing the way for marriage equality. A great deal of out-of-state money came into Cal, in the passage of Prop8. The Supreme court was quite correct in finding the Prop to be unconstitutional. Same-gender marriage is now legal where are 30% of the American people live. And people can travel out of state for marriage, and then return to their state of residence, and the state must recognize their marriage (See Williams v. North Carolina, 1940).
MaryannJuly 11, 2013
I was living in California at the time we were asked to go door-to-door and talk with people about the merits of Prop 8. It was very discouraging to have a victory and then to have it thrown out. However, we cannot allow ourselves to give up the fight to protect marriage, and we MUST NOT have an attitude that defeat is unavoidable. There is more here at stake than marriage. The issue has become whether we as a nation will continue to be governed by the voice of the people.
Harold RustJuly 10, 2013
I see a strong analogy to a supreme court decision that truly angered Lincoln and was a key factor in his wanting to run for president. That decision was made in the Dred Scot case. Think of the parallels: There was a very vocal minority who were thinking only of their "right" to own slaves. The judges were influenced by their perception of national sentiment rather than law and the facts. The decision was made to look "legal" only by defining a slave as "property" rather than as a person. Lincoln was respectful of that decision, but then found his own way to completely dismantle it and bring about the will of the majority. At a time when it looked to be inevitable that slavery would work its way into every state of the nation, one dedicated man found a legal, ethical, and eventually popular way to do that. We must find that way to safeguard and preserve marriage.
Linda SheffieldJuly 10, 2013
I live in California where we now have a Lieutenant Governor who should have been thrown in jail for breaking the law in the first place and politicians who are only in office as a popularity/media contest. Those with the money get their way and the people who care enough to work and vote have their rights trampled by the legislators and the judges. Corruption and violence were the words used to describe the times when Noah lived. They are an apt description of our day.The frightening thing is, we are still responsible to stand for truth and right in these times when we are as likely to be threatened and persecuted by our government as we are by those who have an opposing view.
Linda PowellJuly 9, 2013
Ah. The Book of Mormon. Written for our time because history is repeating itself.
CharlieBrown2292July 9, 2013
President Nixon was impeached for less than that! The future of Democracy is at stake if nothing is done to ensure that the voice of the American people remains stronger than that of Judges and Supreme Court Justices.
grant nicholasJuly 9, 2013
Well now I can marry my granddaughter ( in name only) and when I die the ranch is hers .....no inheritance tax......ha ha ah IRS
Debby BennettJuly 8, 2013
Gender identity confusion reigns supreme. Marriage was invented by God and His definition stands. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Any other combination isn't marriage. What it is is a creation of further mass confusion. Some things are forever, and some things cannot ever be.
ARTJuly 8, 2013
Here is an article that explains better what the SCOTUS ruling really means to the democratic process. https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/07/10498/ I think the fact that the California governor and the State of California attorney general did is nothing short of tyrannic and has deeply rooted grounds for impeachment.
Peter BellvilleJuly 8, 2013
The animosity referred to must be a projection by judge Kennedy of his own animus toward prop 8 supporters.
JaceJuly 8, 2013
As a resident of California the decision about Proposition 8 scares me to death because it effectively means that if elected officials disagree with a law, any law, they can effectively veto it after the fact by simply choosing not to defend it in court. Those on both sides of this issue should be equally concerned by that decision of the court because now that legal precedent has been set the door can swing both directions and those celebrating the decision today could be hurt by it in another case over a different issue. Such authority for this new form of "veto" has never been a part of the law but now the courts have created it and we will all have to live with it. God help us when this new "veto" begins to be used more and more to undermine the freedoms and rights that we have enjoyed as a people.
PalJuly 8, 2013
I'm not sure what we as lay people can do, or which family supportive group to give money to. Could you please let us know, and perhaps all readers could give $10 a month to help support those who support our traditional families! Thanks!
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