In this episode, I interview Dr. Wendy Ulrich, author and therapist, on the subject of forgiving ourselves. We discuss the importance of forgiving ourselves when we make mistakes. Specifically, we discuss:

  •  What it means to forgive ourselves.
  • The ultimate goal of self-forgiveness.
  • Why we struggle to forgive ourselves for making mistakes.
  • The path to self-forgiveness, including:
    1. Clarifying our beliefs
    2. Qualifying for forgiveness and grace
    3. Overcoming internal obstacles to peace
    4. Trusting God

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Wendy Ulrich, Ph.D., M.B.A., has been a psychologist in private practice, president of the Association of Mormon Counselors and Psychotherapists, and a visiting professor at Brigham Young University-Provo. She founded Sixteen Stones Center for Growth, which offers seminar-retreats for Latter-day Saint women and their loved ones (see Her books include Let God Love You; Weakness Is Not Sin; Habits of Happiness; The Temple Experience; Forgiving Ourselves; and national best-seller The Why of Work, coauthored with her husband, Dave Ulrich.

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