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In this episode, Geoff Steurer, MS, LMFT interviews Brandon and Jaylynn, the couple who were featured in Episodes 1-6. This is a follow-up visit to understand their recovery journey almost two years after the original interviews. In this interview, we talk about:

– How change happens in addiction and trauma recovery
– What boundaries and rules are still in place to keep them progressing
– The reality that deep and lasting change is possible

You can follow Jaylynn on Instagram @latterdaywarrior and contact Brandon at ou****************@ya***.com

The Illuminate podcast is brought to you by LifeStar of St. George, Utah, a program to help couples heal their betrayed marriages. Learn more at