Thank you, Charmaine! Showing cleavage is totally immodest and inappropriate for anyone, but especially for members of the church.
PamMarch 1, 2013
I think that a large part of why this worked with the teenager here is because it wasn't her mother saying it. Teeneagers often refuse to hear truth solely because it comes from their parent. They will, however, listen to someone else. We can help our friends by being the ones to say these things - as long as you okay it with the parent first. You don't want to overstep.
BonnieFebruary 28, 2013
What about short skirts? Some of the sisters in our ward wear them so short their garments show. Also, a lot of tall sisters get petite garments so they can wear short skirts. I know it can be hard to buy a longer skirt but it can be done.
AnonymousFebruary 28, 2013
The comment from "Sandy" is absolutely powerful.
Charmaine February 28, 2013
I want to say something about cleavage and adult women. Cleavage is in, We all know that. My ward is full of 30 something wonderful women, including the bishops wife who regularly show cleavage at church. Plus many of them wear clothes that are frankly too tight. I am not sure some of them realize they are doing it but they wear blouses so low that when they sit down you can see down their neck or if they bend over you can see the top of their breasts. Why wouldn't the teens think they can do it?
I am a senior missionary. I spent time in Provo and Madrid MTC and saw cleavage on some of the girls in both places. It is shocking to me, does no one want to deal with this?
Yesterday we had a district meeting with 6 young missionaries and 2 senior couples. The other senior sister had on a dress that had too low of a neck and when she was serving food bending over her breasts showed. Is it my place to talk to her? Are we just not thinking? She is a wonderful woman. She is serving young adults in her mission. What will the young girls think when they see her in that dress...Is cleavage OK they will wonder? I think that we forgot that we are suppose to be apart from the world.
Ed WilsonFebruary 28, 2013
As a DItW Nerd I have always known "Clothing is a lie" it says things that reflect off of you, and diverts the sight from the real you.
I have never trusted those who don't wear sufficient pockets. They can't work in them.
Yours
Ed Wilson
SandyFebruary 28, 2013
When I was in my teens, I wore what they called "sizzle dresses" . These "dresses" exposed your whole leg just short of your thigh. They had low necklines and worn with high vinyl boots. I got lots of dates, whistles, and even became popular because l had a great figure. (That was before I joined the church).
I was not promiscuous, but really liked the attention I got. After I joined, I met one of the sister missionaries who attended my baptism at her farewell in the Mission home. I walked in with a low cut top and slacks. The sister missionary greeted me and we chatted for a while. I saw modesty all around me and I was uneasy about how I was dressed as I realized that my attire was inappropriate, especially around sister missionaries. It gave me pause about how to dress from that day on.
Now that I'm sixty, (and everything has gone south) I sometimes bump into some of the "boys" I dated. They tell me they were "in love" with my body and that's why they dated me. They wanted to be seen with the "product" I was back then. I was willing to flaunt it and they were willing to show it off.
Notice I use the word "IT" because that's all I was to them.
Most of them are now paunchy, and bald so we both have a good laugh.
I learned the hard way that modesty is a way of worshiping the Lord.
I don't have any daughters, but I think I would stress their inner beauty and how timeless that is. Someone once said that outer beauty fades, but stupid is forever.
I would add that inner beauty lasts forever also.
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Linda ShannonMarch 3, 2013
Thank you, Charmaine! Showing cleavage is totally immodest and inappropriate for anyone, but especially for members of the church.
PamMarch 1, 2013
I think that a large part of why this worked with the teenager here is because it wasn't her mother saying it. Teeneagers often refuse to hear truth solely because it comes from their parent. They will, however, listen to someone else. We can help our friends by being the ones to say these things - as long as you okay it with the parent first. You don't want to overstep.
BonnieFebruary 28, 2013
What about short skirts? Some of the sisters in our ward wear them so short their garments show. Also, a lot of tall sisters get petite garments so they can wear short skirts. I know it can be hard to buy a longer skirt but it can be done.
AnonymousFebruary 28, 2013
The comment from "Sandy" is absolutely powerful.
Charmaine February 28, 2013
I want to say something about cleavage and adult women. Cleavage is in, We all know that. My ward is full of 30 something wonderful women, including the bishops wife who regularly show cleavage at church. Plus many of them wear clothes that are frankly too tight. I am not sure some of them realize they are doing it but they wear blouses so low that when they sit down you can see down their neck or if they bend over you can see the top of their breasts. Why wouldn't the teens think they can do it? I am a senior missionary. I spent time in Provo and Madrid MTC and saw cleavage on some of the girls in both places. It is shocking to me, does no one want to deal with this? Yesterday we had a district meeting with 6 young missionaries and 2 senior couples. The other senior sister had on a dress that had too low of a neck and when she was serving food bending over her breasts showed. Is it my place to talk to her? Are we just not thinking? She is a wonderful woman. She is serving young adults in her mission. What will the young girls think when they see her in that dress...Is cleavage OK they will wonder? I think that we forgot that we are suppose to be apart from the world.
Ed WilsonFebruary 28, 2013
As a DItW Nerd I have always known "Clothing is a lie" it says things that reflect off of you, and diverts the sight from the real you. I have never trusted those who don't wear sufficient pockets. They can't work in them. Yours Ed Wilson
SandyFebruary 28, 2013
When I was in my teens, I wore what they called "sizzle dresses" . These "dresses" exposed your whole leg just short of your thigh. They had low necklines and worn with high vinyl boots. I got lots of dates, whistles, and even became popular because l had a great figure. (That was before I joined the church). I was not promiscuous, but really liked the attention I got. After I joined, I met one of the sister missionaries who attended my baptism at her farewell in the Mission home. I walked in with a low cut top and slacks. The sister missionary greeted me and we chatted for a while. I saw modesty all around me and I was uneasy about how I was dressed as I realized that my attire was inappropriate, especially around sister missionaries. It gave me pause about how to dress from that day on. Now that I'm sixty, (and everything has gone south) I sometimes bump into some of the "boys" I dated. They tell me they were "in love" with my body and that's why they dated me. They wanted to be seen with the "product" I was back then. I was willing to flaunt it and they were willing to show it off. Notice I use the word "IT" because that's all I was to them. Most of them are now paunchy, and bald so we both have a good laugh. I learned the hard way that modesty is a way of worshiping the Lord. I don't have any daughters, but I think I would stress their inner beauty and how timeless that is. Someone once said that outer beauty fades, but stupid is forever. I would add that inner beauty lasts forever also.
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