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In this episode of the Illuminate Podcast, I interview Dr. Carmel White, a researcher and author, who co-authored a book called “Love and Betrayal”, which is a collection of research and stories detailing the experience of what it’s like to be betrayed by a partner’s pornography use. In this interview, we discuss what betrayed women really need people to understand about betrayal trauma. Betrayed women face tremendous uncertainty and it’s critical that those who love and support them don’t create more confusion and stress.

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Additional Resources for betrayed women:
The Illuminate Podcast is hosted by Geoff Steurer, MS, LMFT and founder of LifeStar of St. George, Utah, a treatment program for couples healing from the impact of pornography and sexual addiction. Learn more at
I have also created audio and video courses to help support individuals and couples in marriage, addiction, and betrayal trauma recovery at