L,
Good point, and these are surely complex matters. There is a whole pro-Pelagius literature, including even such "names" as Jaroslav Pelikan (but only via Pelikan's signaling via his use of footnotes). Finally, Pelagius ought to speak for himself without the Augustinian overlay. Doing this, I have concluded Pelagius had no grace of any kind except the weakest form, that of the grace of a "good example." I myself am too much a sinner not to have relied on the Lord for his help.
But I don't mean to steamroll, I appreciate your view.
AB
Lynn JohnsonMay 5, 2013
My misunderstanding of Pelagius is that his major sin, from Augustine's POV, is to deny original sin, hence, to deny the need for infant baptism, hence to undermine the whole of the Catholic Church's terroristic hold on the people. So I interpret Pelagius as someone who was likely on to something good, but Augustine is a straw-man argument. We can look him up in a few hundred years and get it from the horse's mouth.
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Ashby BoyleNovember 28, 2013
L, Good point, and these are surely complex matters. There is a whole pro-Pelagius literature, including even such "names" as Jaroslav Pelikan (but only via Pelikan's signaling via his use of footnotes). Finally, Pelagius ought to speak for himself without the Augustinian overlay. Doing this, I have concluded Pelagius had no grace of any kind except the weakest form, that of the grace of a "good example." I myself am too much a sinner not to have relied on the Lord for his help. But I don't mean to steamroll, I appreciate your view. AB
Lynn JohnsonMay 5, 2013
My misunderstanding of Pelagius is that his major sin, from Augustine's POV, is to deny original sin, hence, to deny the need for infant baptism, hence to undermine the whole of the Catholic Church's terroristic hold on the people. So I interpret Pelagius as someone who was likely on to something good, but Augustine is a straw-man argument. We can look him up in a few hundred years and get it from the horse's mouth.
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