Interpersonal loss can look very different in any given situation, and is impossible to compare piece by piece. But whether it is the death of a partner or the betrayal of a partner, each person dealing with the aftermath will experience some level of grief and betrayal in their loss. Lisa Valentine Clark joins us to discuss how she has coped with those emotions after the death of her husband, and how she has turned to humor to help pull her out of the darkest time in her life. In this episode we cover:

  • What are the similarities between loss and betrayal?
  • The draw to prolong living as a victim
  • How can humor aid in healing?
  • How can humor aid in asking for help?

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About Geoff Steurer: I am a licensed marriage and family therapist, relationship educator, and coach with over 20 years of experience. I am the co-author of, “Love You, Hate the Porn: Healing a Relationship Damaged by Virtual Infidelity”, the host of the weekly podcast, “From Crisis to Connection”, and have produced workbooks, audio programs, and online courses helping couples and individuals heal from the impact of sexual betrayal, unwanted pornography use, partner betrayal trauma, and rebuilding broken trust. As a leader in the field, I am a frequent contributor on these subjects at national conferences, documentaries, blogs, magazines, and podcasts. I also write a weekly relationship advice column available on my blog. I founded and ran an outpatient sexual addiction and betrayal trauma recovery group program for over 14 years, co-founded and chaired a local conference to educate community members about harmful media, and founded and administered a specialized group therapy practice for over 10 years. I currently maintain a private counseling and coaching practice in beautiful Southern Utah where I live with my wife and children.

About Lisa Clark: Lisa Valentine Clark graduated with a B.S. in English from Brigham Young University. She was part of the sketch comedy/improv troupe The Garrens, and co-founded the theater-as-improv troupe The Thrillionaires which performs original, improvised plays and musicals in a variety of genres. She has been featured in a variety of commercials, including the “real mom” in the viral videos for Chatbooks. Lisa works as a freelance writer for commercials, webseries, and scripts. She wrote the book, Real Moms Making It Up As We Go, hosted the feel-good service show “Random Acts,” and headlined the musical improv tv show Show Offs, for three seasons on BYUtv. She has starred in movies like Stalking Santa, and was a script consultant, producer, and starred as “Carrie Carrington” in the film Once I Was a Beehive and Once I Was Engaged. She currently hosts the weekly podcast The Lisa Show on BYUradio. Lisa and her late husband Christopher have 5 children.