Gregg, you missed my point. I do not rely on the arm of flesh. It is an essential principle of my faith that military might does NOT protect me. Its presence makes me LESS safe. This is a spiritual issue and I place my faith in spiritual practice, not physical weapons. I bear testimony that mine is actually the stronger protection.
Michael ChopinAugust 11, 2015
So these planned parenthood people must be the elitists left over from the eugenics and forced sterilization period of America. They figure the eugenics laws did not stick so instead of sterilization they turn to abortion as the preferred method of feeding their god, Molech. Its no wonder that by 1924, approximately 3,000 people had been involuntarily sterilized in America; the vast majority (2,500) in California.* I wonder how many people displaced by the depression and dust bowl were outright murdered in California simply because they were poor and looking for work? If feeble mindedness is a test for sterilization, then the majority of the public would qualify for it these days. Oh, and lets not forget that a poor man who is convicted of stealing a chicken three times from his somewhat equally poor neighbors is eligible for sterilization but the man that embezzles equally from the rich and the poor alike cannot be sterilized under the three strike rule.
Abortion is not going to go away but it should not be sponsored by public funds. If you want an abortion, you need to pay for it yourself. If I am immoral and break the laws of God that also breaks the laws of man, I cannot apply for government funds to pay my fine or go my bail for me. Perhaps we need to enact laws that say if a woman gets pregnant outside of wedlock, then both man and woman are guilty of a crime which then would become aggravated murder applied to either the male and/or female depending on the circumstances. If a female becomes pregnant by any artificial means of her own choosing and then has an abortion, then the offense is even more severe. And don't cry to me about if the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother it should be okay to have an abortion. Should the people born of mothers who died in child birth (and their descendants) be rounded up and put to death because doctors at the time did not have modern abortion techniques or the willingness to perform such an act? Life is all the more sacred because there is risk involved. People make choices that compromise or threaten their lives everyday, some for the sake of the thrill of it alone and they cannot abort the consequences. Its real simple: if you don't want to get pregnant, then don't put yourself in a compromising situation where you would get pregnant.
*https://www.eugenicsarchive.org/html/eugenics/essay8text.html
Gregg KayAugust 10, 2015
Kent,
I do have great consideration for your pain and your principals. However, I must balance your pain and principals against the protection of your right to have those principals and pain and even your right to express them that our military provides. That is why I approve of the use of public funds for the military while opposing that same use of those funds for abortions. Thank God for the military protecting my rights of speech and religion while simultaneously protecting your right to disagree with me.
BrentAugust 10, 2015
First, there is some question as to the validity of these videos. Second, absolutely abortion is wrong in all but certain cases and situations. Which is why third, it is an individual choice -- the decide those situations. Another article here on Meridian (Darla Isackson) addresses the fallacy of controlling or trying to control others.
But, abortions occur. And if the alternative is to wastefully simply discard and destroy the remains of these surgeries, then certainly using them for scientific purposes is the higher, better choice. And doing so is not the issue here. It is that permission should be granted
Kent BusseAugust 10, 2015
With empathy toward people who would be pained by the use of public funds for abortions, I ask softly for consideration of my pain when public funds are used for military purposes in violation of MY core principles.
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Kent BusseAugust 11, 2015
Gregg, you missed my point. I do not rely on the arm of flesh. It is an essential principle of my faith that military might does NOT protect me. Its presence makes me LESS safe. This is a spiritual issue and I place my faith in spiritual practice, not physical weapons. I bear testimony that mine is actually the stronger protection.
Michael ChopinAugust 11, 2015
So these planned parenthood people must be the elitists left over from the eugenics and forced sterilization period of America. They figure the eugenics laws did not stick so instead of sterilization they turn to abortion as the preferred method of feeding their god, Molech. Its no wonder that by 1924, approximately 3,000 people had been involuntarily sterilized in America; the vast majority (2,500) in California.* I wonder how many people displaced by the depression and dust bowl were outright murdered in California simply because they were poor and looking for work? If feeble mindedness is a test for sterilization, then the majority of the public would qualify for it these days. Oh, and lets not forget that a poor man who is convicted of stealing a chicken three times from his somewhat equally poor neighbors is eligible for sterilization but the man that embezzles equally from the rich and the poor alike cannot be sterilized under the three strike rule. Abortion is not going to go away but it should not be sponsored by public funds. If you want an abortion, you need to pay for it yourself. If I am immoral and break the laws of God that also breaks the laws of man, I cannot apply for government funds to pay my fine or go my bail for me. Perhaps we need to enact laws that say if a woman gets pregnant outside of wedlock, then both man and woman are guilty of a crime which then would become aggravated murder applied to either the male and/or female depending on the circumstances. If a female becomes pregnant by any artificial means of her own choosing and then has an abortion, then the offense is even more severe. And don't cry to me about if the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother it should be okay to have an abortion. Should the people born of mothers who died in child birth (and their descendants) be rounded up and put to death because doctors at the time did not have modern abortion techniques or the willingness to perform such an act? Life is all the more sacred because there is risk involved. People make choices that compromise or threaten their lives everyday, some for the sake of the thrill of it alone and they cannot abort the consequences. Its real simple: if you don't want to get pregnant, then don't put yourself in a compromising situation where you would get pregnant. *https://www.eugenicsarchive.org/html/eugenics/essay8text.html
Gregg KayAugust 10, 2015
Kent, I do have great consideration for your pain and your principals. However, I must balance your pain and principals against the protection of your right to have those principals and pain and even your right to express them that our military provides. That is why I approve of the use of public funds for the military while opposing that same use of those funds for abortions. Thank God for the military protecting my rights of speech and religion while simultaneously protecting your right to disagree with me.
BrentAugust 10, 2015
First, there is some question as to the validity of these videos. Second, absolutely abortion is wrong in all but certain cases and situations. Which is why third, it is an individual choice -- the decide those situations. Another article here on Meridian (Darla Isackson) addresses the fallacy of controlling or trying to control others. But, abortions occur. And if the alternative is to wastefully simply discard and destroy the remains of these surgeries, then certainly using them for scientific purposes is the higher, better choice. And doing so is not the issue here. It is that permission should be granted
Kent BusseAugust 10, 2015
With empathy toward people who would be pained by the use of public funds for abortions, I ask softly for consideration of my pain when public funds are used for military purposes in violation of MY core principles.
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