Just wondering, Vaughn and Bruce, if you noticed that the information about Joseph using a single seer stone (one which the Church still has in its possession) was published in the Official History of the Church -- Saints -- Vol. 1, which was just published two years ago BY The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.. Thus, I think that your thought that this information comes from Mormonism Unveiled is a bit problematic! Not only that, the Church has published recent videos and pictures that illustrate Joseph using this stone, which he placed in a hat to exclude the light. I doubt they would be doing that if the information was inaccurate!
I soso appreciate the depth of your podcast. So much good information, and such a sweet presentation. I feel your love for each other throughout.
Wonderful blog! I was especially excited to see the additional bible verses quoted by Moroni, mentioned by Oliver Cowdery, which do not appear in the JSH. The blog states that the list and text of all those verses, from the JHS and Oliver, appear in the "blog notes". But, I do not see any hyperlink or other way to access said notes. Where and how can they be found? Thanks!
Again, such meaty commentary. Thank you for all your hard work in putting this together for us!
The following comes from the official history published by the Church: "Meanwhile, Joseph and Oliver started translating. They worked well together, weeks on end, frequently with Emma in the same room going about her daily work. Sometimes Joseph translated by looking through the interpreters and reading in English the characters on the plates.
Often he found a single seer stone to be more convenient. He would put the seer stone in his hat, place his face into the hat to block out the light, and peer at the stone. Light from the stone would shine in the darkness, revealing words that Joseph dictated as Oliver rapidly copied them down." ("Saints" Volume 1, Page 61).
Joseph and Oliver used the Urim and Thummin not a seer stone.
You have done your research for a terrific podcast. However, you need to jettison the false narrative about the seer stone in a hat translation method. This false notion comes from Mormonism Unvailed by Eber D. Howe in 1834 (He published anti-Mormon articles in Painesville Telegraph from 1831 until 1835) and David Whitmer's 1887 pamphlet, "An Address to All Believers in Christ." David was excommunicated in 1838, started his own church and denounced Joseph Smith and rejected polygamy and the Doctrine and Covenants and the restoration of the priesthood. Why would anyone ever cite apostate references?
In the PGP, Joseph Smith History 1:75 * footnote, it says, "Oliver Cowdery describes these events thus: “These were days never to be forgotten—to sit under the sound of a voice dictated by the inspiration of heaven, awakened the utmost gratitude of this bosom! Day after day I continued, uninterrupted, to write from his mouth, as he translated with the Urim and Thummim, or, as the Nephites would have said, ‘Interpreters,’ the history or record called ‘The Book of Mormon.’"
D&C 17:1 clearly states what the Three Witnesses are going to be able to view. It doesn't mention a seer stone.
1 Behold, I say unto you, that you must rely upon my word, which if you do with full purpose of heart, you shall have a aview of the bplates, and also of the cbreastplate, the dsword of Laban, the eUrim and Thummim, which were given to the fbrother of Jared upon the mount, when he talked with the Lord gface to face, and the hmiraculous directors which were given to Lehi while in the wilderness, on the borders of the iRed Sea.
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