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August 12, 2022

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Wally GoddardSeptember 4, 2019

I agree, Orva, that our Beloved Father wants our exaltation just as much as the Son does. They are in complete agreement. However, God is required to enforce the law of justice. "Now the work of justice could not be destroyed; if so, God would cease to be God" (Alma 42:13, see also vv. 22 and 25. So Jesus offers His mercy to satisfy the law of justice. "And thus mercy can satisfy the demands of justice, and encircles them in the arms of safety" (Alma 34:16). While both the Father and the Son are determined to rescue us, they must work together to satisfy the law of justice. Thus, Jesus comes to Father as our advocate pleading that His sacrifice be used to satisfy the law of justice. So we are probably in agreement with the possible difference that I see Father as required to enforce the law of justice. We both rejoice in the great plan of happiness! Blessings

VardellSeptember 4, 2019

Brother Goddard, thank you for making the point that Christ is pleading our cause NOW. We LDS have a mistaken belief that because we are not perfect now, then we cannot be redeemed now. The scriptures teach otherwise; Amulek said, "now is the time and day of your salvation, therefore, if ye will harden not your hearts, immediately shall the great plan of redemption be brought about unto you." (Alma 34:31) What about "now" and "immediately" do we not believe? We read and accept that it only took 3 days for a very wicked Alma to be "redeemed, born again, even changed to a state of righteousness." (Mosiah 27:24) Can't that apply to us? Alma did no good works, but simply plead for the mercy of Christ and was forgiven and changed - immediately. King Benjamins people plead for the mercy of Christ and were forgiven and changed - immediately. Do we see a pattern and a lesson here? Amulek said the truth, "ye cannot be saved in your sins." Then it seem that we have two possible solutions to that dilemma - either perfect ourselves, or be forgiven and changed by Christ. I'm betting my life on the latter.

OrvaSeptember 3, 2019

I appreciate this merciful perspective of how Christ will cover and shield us with His perfection. What amazing, gracious love! I am worried that this interpretation may also imply that we need protection from our loving and gracious Heavenly Father. I like to believe that both Christ and Father are rooting for us, right up to, and including judgement day. Could an alternative interpretation of the scripture be: because we have kept our covenants binding us to Christ, we are judged by His merits rather than our own? In this scripture might He be symbolically reminding us in His words to the Father, of how He has satisfied justice in our behalf? We do not need Christ’s protection from our Father, after all, it was Heavenly Father who arranged for and provided us with our advocate. What we need is the Savior’s infinite perfection and grace to cover us from our having to face justice alone. I am eternally grateful for Father’s gift of His son to the world and that Jesus Christ was able and willing to complete His promised atonement for us all.

AnnekeSeptember 3, 2019

Yes! Thank you for this reminder, this message of hope!



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