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Lizzie GirlJune 25, 2022

Accept the fact that nobody over there will ever like you or want to see you, and allow them complete access to their father without clamoring to be part of it. You will always be the person that wrecked their family. Your "good marriage" will have to be reward enough. They may well have forgiven you in the sense of allowing the Lord to be the judge, but they will never want to hang out with you so stop trying to insinuate yourself into the mix. This is never going to change. You have nothing to offer them except the reminder of what you did. Be cool. Be humble. Stop with the neediness.

EmilyJune 25, 2022

His children treat you as the other woman because you are the other woman. If you actually regretted having an affair, you would get a divorce. This baby is not your grandchild and never will be Get over yourself and your rights. You have none here.

Debbi M.June 24, 2022

Wonderful and honest advice. Divorce is such an unfair situation, as you said, especially with infidelity. Spot on for telling this sister she has no right to entitlement, and should not make her husband choose. I take it she did not have children from her previous spouse? Maybe she would understand more?

Debbi M.June 24, 2022

What a story! The Lord's hand is manifest once again. Bless all the family members here to get through this trial and press forward. The gospel is true!

BeckyJune 24, 2022

I love this story. I know that we had relationships in our pre-earth life. What a beautiful testimony of listening to and following the spirit.

vickieJune 24, 2022

OH MY GOSH, THIS STORY WAS SO BEAUTIFUL AND SAD AT THE SAME TIME. i do believe that the spirit in a person knows and recognizes things from our life with God before we come to earth. i had this experience once and wrote about it regarding seeing the conference before i joined the church. while seeing it on tv way back in the mid 70's i felt as though i heard it before. i told my husband who was reading the newspaper...that what was being said seemed like something my parents told me....but then i said....its not exactly like my parents telling me confused i know it was my heavenly parents telling me these things...i recognized it..

Judith GrantJune 24, 2022

I love this answer. Not being pushy and understanding what you have done in the past has caused this to happen and showing understanding, will do a lot more to create harmony than being offended or hurt bc you’re not included. Be the grownup!

Janet WiseJune 24, 2022

Adam, it is indeed a beautiful story! The strength of family beyond the veil! How wonderful that family is forever, and that the Lord has a loving way of micromanaging our relationships. I wish your sister and her brood much love and blessings--until you are all united again,

DonJune 24, 2022

The reason you are being treated like the "other woman" is that you ARE the other woman. You helped break up her family. You aren't entitled to the forgiveness you seem to demand.

WendiJune 24, 2022

Sorry, lady. You don’t get to decide “boundaries” when you were intrusive to “boundaries” that were set to protect a marriage commitment. You don’t get to decide how his children feel about you. You don’t get to decide to be welcome in their lives, especially during the joyous time of his new grandchild (not yours). How dare you use the birth of his daughter’s baby to intrude into her life again and demand to be “respected.” You won—you have the man you both wrecked homes to be together—and this is The prize of your “victory.” Leave his children alone. You have no place in their world just because you became his wife. Deal with it. Leave your husband alone about wanting him to take a stand for you with his children. This is a consequence of your atrocious decision to wreck this daughter’s home to steal her dad. You made your bed nine years ago, now go and sleep in it.

Becky L RoseJune 10, 2022

One of my favorite books is confronting the myth of self-esteem. It's LDS and talks about abasing ourselves. That is scriptural.

Tom BaxterJune 10, 2022

As a retried professional having dealt with SSA issues in the past, I also have been disappointed with the imbalance with which this issue has been celebrated by the media, including Church-owned media outlets. Some have deliberately or unintentionally promoted the love and acceptance side without addressing the doctrinal and moral realities.. I also compliment Brother Bennion's courage, ,especially in light of his unique and valid personal perspective. He effectively articulated the disconnect between how reporting has been handled and the fundamental doctrines of the Church. As an emeritus general authority repeated to me, "God's truth, God's laws and God's justice will never be man's truth, laws and justice." I recall the then Elder Oaks being interviewed by a CBS reporter who was seeking to characterize the Church as discriminatory towards members dealing with homosexuality. When the reporter tried to challenge the church's position, Elder Oaks repeatedly said, "Sex outside of marriage is a sin". At that time there were no gay marriages. The position now includes defining marriage as only being between a man and a woman. It is imperative that parents make the home the primary source in promoting gospel principles. The evidence is clear that children coming from such homes are much more clear, less deceived and better grounded in God's ways as to what is moral and immoral as contrasted with the world's ways. Parents cannot rely on outside sources to instruct their children. God's laws and commandments regarding what chastity and identity really is must be taught and exemplified in the home. .

Rob McGhieJune 10, 2022

I remember Bro. Keith Wilcox came to the Miami stake center in 1974 or 1975 to give a presentation on the Washington DC Temple at a fireside. I remember him saying that the mindset he had when designing this temple was “Enlightenment “. It was just before I went to the temple with my wife and children to be sealed for all eternity.

GoingTo100June 10, 2022

Great article - thanks for the thorough analysis of all the lies and malicious deceits depicted in the series. I only disagree with the last premise concerning the loss the series may cause to the Church, its members, and other individuals in search of truth. As the article states: "In the eyes of the law,... when libel or slander leads to serious material loss..." then it counts as "illegal defamation". The church will not experience any material loss from the series free-for-all malicious attack. The people who will resonate with the series are the apostates and the those who hate organized religion especially the LDS religion. Anyone with some degree of the light of Christ will see through the deceit and the hypocrisy of the apostates and religion haters involved with this series. Some may be fooled for a time, but in the end the Church will be strengthened, not weekend by this series.

Jo Ann McVey OkelberryJune 10, 2022

This is so uplifting and beautiful. I am so grateful for their sharing of such great talents.

JoJune 10, 2022

Beautiful, brings me peace this morning.

DavidDJune 10, 2022

How does it work to "embrace conflict" when one segment of society seems to not only embrace but militantly support lies? Lies about events. Lies about science. Unless and until those people become more committed to truth, how can I possibly come together with them? Embrace their lies?

GingerJune 10, 2022

Absolutely gorgeous!!!!

SfischJune 10, 2022

I loved hearing this story. What a marvelous opportunity to be part of the Lord’s design team. What an honor-what a blessing! I believe Brother Wilcox daughter was in my college of family living. -specifically - Interior Environments at BYU.

T. EarlJune 9, 2022

Thank you! THANK YOU!! I have to admit that moving from the San Francisco Bay Area to Utah I’ve been surprised that the rhetoric and the rainbow flag seems to be even stronger in the Salt Lake Valley. As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints I admit that I have been left confused at times on where my leaders, sunday instructors and fellow members stand as we often attempt to straddle the line so we don’t offend. But instead we are leaving so many confused and swimming in the grey! The church media hasn’t helped. What is happening at BYU in Provo is alarming. I do agree that posting the rainbow banner does seems to be a symbol of announcing that “I’m not a hater“ instead of standing up and saying” I am a believer” in loving all my brothers and sisters while doing our best to support The Proclamation to the world on the doctrine of The Family. We would do better to raise a banner the would unite all (instead of divide us) “in the name of our God, country and our families!” Thank you for this well written plea to seek out those who live with same sex attraction and strive to keep their covenants and also the reminder that we can love one another but also to keep our footing in the doctrines and expectations of God.

MaryKaren SolomonJune 9, 2022

Br. Bennion, thank you defending what is an unfortunately unpopular stand right now. We need to love our LGBT brothers and sisters, and accept them into fellowship. However, I know from my own experience the following the covenant path will help keep a couple together. I married a bisexual man when I was young; we had been counseled by church authorities to trust each other and get married if we loved each other. We both received testimonies that we should marry each other, and we did, in the temple. For the first few years , we remained very active in the LDS Church, and things went well. We had a daughter together, and three years later, a son. At that time, my husband started experiencing same-sex attraction and was in faithful to me. Our bishop counseled my spouse and worked with him regularly. It was a great help to him! Then we moved to South Carolina and I became pregnant again, and my husband had worries and concerns that caused him to act out on same-sex feelings again. This time our bishop was not supportive; he scheduled a church court, and my husband was disfellowshipped. I was at the court as a witness for my husband, and I do not feel it was a court of love. I feel it was a court of disgust, and I think he felt the same way, because he then became inactive and fell away from the church. He became interested in Christian science and we attended the LDS church one week and Christian science church the next. Our lives begin to fall apart and in three years he was out of the church, and we were divorced. I raised the children on my own, and they were not close to him, even though we made efforts to see him every year. He lived a gay life, and it was a lonely one. I can't help but feel it would've been a much more fulfilling life for him, had he stayed faithful to his covenants and resisted same-sex temptations. I greatly appreciate your taking the Church's stance seriously, because I feel it is the only pathway that can help marriages to work and keep families together.

MarcieJune 9, 2022

Thank you for your words. They are one more puzzle piece in my quest to "always remember Him"

CASJune 9, 2022

There are some strong opinions cited here. I share mine. I believe and adhere to the Proclamaition of the Family and all that it promotes. I believe that God created man and woman for the purpose of bringing children in the world and creating a family unit within the confines of matrimony and building that man and woman's healthy sexuality which binds them together. I believe in the covenants that we renew in the temple every time we attend. Today there are too many ideas out there today that want to destroy the family unit. That's Satan's plan. This is very disturbing to me. And, Susan, a possible response to your granddaughter could be: The only flag we fly is the Stars and Stripes for the United States of America to which we adhere!

John PetersenJune 9, 2022

Excellent, excellent thinking and reasoning and explaining. As you wrote, "There is more than one way to foster inclusion and compassion." I have struggled with my own experience in loving and accepting LGBTQ people, although I have family members who struggle with same sex attraction and I have no problem loving them. But I could never plant a rainbow flag in my yard or march in a Gay Pride parade. I loved the way you encouraged more acceptance of the Proclamation on the Family than the societal river currents of LGBTQ acceptance. Well thought out and so well explained.

CarolJune 9, 2022

I have written to personnel at the Deseret News regarding their allowing attacks on the Church and their support of policies that the Church opposes. I have gotten no response. If Church-owned media does not support the doctrines of the Church, why do they even exist? We need a supportive media voice, not another Expositor or Tribune. Everyone needs to listen to Elder Holland's talk to BYU faculty again. We cannot let "love" and "tolerance" be mistaken for approval of ideologies that oppose God's plan.

ShaunaJune 9, 2022

Thank you Br. Bennion, for your steadfast commitment to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. You are inspiring and so brave. Your voice is SO needed in this conversation and I am hopeful that the dominant, monolithic narrative surrounding either "choosing the Church, or choosing to be LGBTQ--or 'authentic'" can be expanded and challenged, as you demonstrate. Thanks for as Paul says, "fighting the good fight and for keeping the faith."

BennyJune 9, 2022

A really outstanding article and analysis of the tropic. As a church member who is experiencing same sex attraction myself I can affirm every sentence in this article. I have nothing in common with the LGBTQ movement. But I have a lot in common with people who are also struggling with same-sex attraction. And especially as a member of our church it is hard to have same sex attractions. I know the covenant path. I know the plan of happiness. As somebody who has been experiencing same sex attractions his whole life I know that certain things like a marriage are highly unlikely for me to ever experience in my mortal life. Of course I know what apostles and prophets have said. I know that ultimately no blessings will be kept from me. But as with so many others who are also experiencing same-sex attractions that does not help all the time. So showing me a rainbow flag will not help in any way. It does however show me that the person who is showing this flag to me should maybe invest a little bit more time in searching out what this flag and its movement is really all about. So yes it is well meant. But it is not good. What does indeed help is showing affection, showing love, and showing interest. This is best done in a personal way and not by showing off some symbols. Everybody has his own burdens. But knowing that the one thing that is so important in the plan of happiness cannot be reached in my mortal life is a very, very, very heavy burden. Every day in my life I am thinking about whether or not my Heavenly Father loves me. Because one of the most central parts of the plan of happiness is kept from me. So I would appreciate if other members of our church recognize the struggle and sympathize with it. If somebody is doing this most certainly love and understanding will come out of it.

J.T. McKayJune 9, 2022

Thank you for the reminder that the "covenant path" is the path of happiness -- for everyone, regardless of orientation. Love and kindness are essential, but any response that leads away from the covenant path will always dilute our happiness -- both in this life and in the next. Your efforts to point this out are deeply appreciated.

DavidJune 9, 2022

Tithing is paid with faith, not money.

Harold RustJune 9, 2022

Thank you for such a heart-felt and well-expressed view on a subject that is so often pressed down to a simple "are you a good person or not" rather than "I will respect you but I also have fundamental teachings I believe are sacred and true". The waving of a pride flag or the displaying of a "I love..." sign may to some seem like an appropriate way to support others. I see it as more likely an indicator the individual is trying to "prove" how kind and wonderful they are and it smacks of self-centered marketing of "rightenous") . For example, what if all of a sudden a large percentage of the U.S. population saw a great advantage in showing they were great supporters of "Mormons" and started displaying signs our their lawn that read , "I love Mormons. If you don't, you have something wrong with you". Would we feel better about our membership in the Church and would this show of support lead us to believe they really did understand us and were genuinely interested in our spiritual welfare? Or would it highlight a sense of opportunism on their part because they sensed the wind was blowing in the direction of helping themselves look better if they showed "love" of Mormons? Something to think about for those who want to gush over the 'brave souls' now coming out of the closet. Be respectful and understanding, but be thoughtful about how to display that respect.

G. Randall in IDJune 9, 2022

The word “gunman”, itself’, conjures up in the mind images similar to those of recent events. It implies malicious intent. A “man doing target practice” (in the story) is NOT the same as a “GUNMAN” (in the headline). I am becoming increasingly wary of headlines in the media, as they seek to sensationalize stories just to raise our heart rate and hopefully get more clicks. I expected better from Meridian Mag.

Trish NordstromJune 9, 2022

It's a very long article and at the end I still don't know what is expected of "straights" in relation to "gays." So many of us "feel damned if we do and damned if we don't" in our behavior. It's exhausting.

BrookeJune 9, 2022

Thank you for being brave enough to be this voice. I am deeply moved. God bless you and strengthen on your journey.

ScottJune 9, 2022

I found this article to be very refreshing as I have been confused by much of the LDS media, while still feeling that there was a conflict between true doctrine and permissiveness in the name love. The author has put into words what I have only had in unexpressed thoughts. Thank you. As an aside I would say that it is unfortunate that this was not published far enough ahead of the North Star Conference to bring attention to it before the day that it began.

LindaJune 9, 2022

4thanks for a great article!

BruceJune 9, 2022

Finally a voice of well thought-out reason in a wasteland of misinformation and distortion.

Michael ChandlerJune 9, 2022

A well reasoned article that explains the tyranny of so-called ‘progressive’ politics, that does not allow for different beliefs and perspectives. Jeff’s focuses on sexuality, but the same can be said for any of the social controversies in our culture; abortion, homelessness, critical race theory, etc. All of our current social maladies have been enhanced by ‘progressive’ solutions that fail to see problems truthfully and obstruct fair discussion of the problems. It is the great a spacious building occupants pointing their fingers and deriding the seekers of truth, and too often the lovers of truth get embarrassed and turn away from the truth. Better that we give them no heed.

Momof6June 9, 2022

I read your article and it really is how I feel about the whole situation. I have two daughters who have found an aspect of the church unrelated to denounce and therefore condone their lifestyle choice because the church “couldn’t possibly be true”. That’s a different story than yours completely but hearing your story gives me hope that things could turn out someday. The one thing that I would suggest editing out is the name of specific people and pointing out why their way of choosing to live the lifestyle doesn’t work. I think it would be fine to list specific examples of issues that may make it hard to stay a faithful church member, but naming people outright is inappropriate. Thank you for your article. I do like your perspective and admire how you are trying to be faithful in the church teachings.

Mardonne NeimanJune 9, 2022

Thank you dear brother for your clear and thoughtful message, and shared with us as one who stands for the doctrine of the church and strives to keep his covenants. Elder Bednar has shown us how to answer questions by quoting doctrine. His pattern has made a clear and simple pattern for faithful members to follow. When asked at the National Press Club, Can you envision a day when LGBTQ Church members can marry and be sealed within the Church? He quoted the proclamation. “We believe that marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God, and that the family is central to the Father’s plan for the eternal destiny and happiness of his children.” Whether single, married, divorced, widowed, LGBQT+, we "further declare that God has commanded that the sacred powers of procreation are to be employed only between man and woman, lawfully wedded as husband and wife." We believe in the promises that we can overcome the world through the atonement of Jesus Christ and receive eternal life.

LindaJune 9, 2022

Wow! What an outstanding, well written article with a refreshing perspective. I haven't delved deeply enough into this subject to recognize the communication complexities involved. Thank you for your enlightening us to a better way of approaching and viewing this tender topic. I believe so many of us have family or friends that are same gender attracted that we have become so focused on accepting them that we inadvertently abandoned our own highly valued principles. What a delema! I shall continue to ponder your well expressed thoughts and suggestions. THANK YOU!!!

Susan RoylanceJune 9, 2022

I am grateful for this article, for Jeff's willingness to speak out in a very helpful way. When children ask (as did my 9 yr old granddaughter), what is "pride" -- and why don't we want a rainbow flag in our yard -- what do we say? Are we teaching the children that becoming gay or lesbian, or choosing to be transgender, is OK? That choosing to not have children, or promoting physical changes to a body, to change the appearance of a different sex, and taking dangerous medicines, will assure that that person will not have biological children. It's the ultimate effort by Satan to destroy the family unit.

Virginia GowerJune 9, 2022

Jeff is right on target about Deseret News, Deseret Book and KSL. Is there anyone who we could contact to complain about the rubbish these 3 come up with. And it's not just about LGBT - also their political views and commentary on other subjects. I'm over 70 years old and I'm not alone. I only get online to read the Church News because you can't believe what you read in the Deseret News and KSL.

BryanJune 9, 2022

Bravo, bravo, bravo! The DNews and other LDS owned media left the reservation long ago. Just as ‘white guilt’ affects people’s actions towards blacks and other peoples of color, so ‘heterosexual guilt’ makes people think they need to show acceptance of behavior directly in opposition to divinely revealed gospel principles. Too many in the church think they are being Christlike in advocating for or supporting homosexual behavior. Instead they are being deceived by Satan and dragging others down with them.

Neill MarriottJune 8, 2022

Kathy, Thank you for the relatable and profound examples in your article. Your mastery of words made it a delight to read. I am going to include the Savior more in my daily work, thanks to your insightful testimony.

KalliopeJune 8, 2022

Just need to know if this is based on a true story, or a figment of imagination.

MaryannJune 8, 2022

Ah, yes--there are a lot of women out there who can relate to this story, including me. Thanks for the chuckle.

Janet ChristensenJune 8, 2022

Excellent article! These inspired words ring true for anyone with political, philosophical or religious differences. I have close family that are not on speaking terms - they can't handle ideas that are different from their firm - "how dare you think I'm not right" - ideas.

DenieseJune 8, 2022

I very much enjoyed this story. It got my day started. We all need to remember that the Lord is/will be with us if we just learn to recognize His presence.

Susan D’AndreaJune 8, 2022

Mom’s irises: Purple irises were my mother’s favorite flower. After she and my father passed away, my sister Lynn dug up the iris bulbs and planted them in her garden. The next year when they bloomed, my sister took pictures and sent each of my parents’ six children an 8x10” print to frame and hang in our homes. It has been almost 20 years, and Mom’s irises are still blooming in Lynn’s garden. Each June she texts us a picture.

Sasha KwapinskiJune 7, 2022

I submit that a good part of the issue is understanding the difference or distinction between love and relativism -- a distinction that many in today's society seem to have a problem with.

Rochelle HaleJune 7, 2022

We will always be at odds with those who oppose us or have differing opinions. One prefers yellow; another blue. One eats meat; another is vegetarian. One is a couch potato while the other is an extreme exerciser. One of the great issues regarding sexual preference is that Latter-day Saints (Catholics, and many others) believe that intimacy is only appropriate within the bounds of marriage. They are NOT our rules; they are God's. Nevertheless, just as we embrace those who enjoy different hobbies or foods, we can embrace our fellow beings who feel differently about sexuality outside of traditional marriage. That, then, is the conundrum, because often those living opposing lifestyles don't want our love or even our association unless we can totally condone and support them. The interpretation then becomes that we "hate them" rather than respecting that we can love and leave any judgment to God.

GaleJune 7, 2022

Thank you for this. I am of Jewish descent and have a special connection to Ruth. This was really enlightening.

Ronald BarnesJune 7, 2022

At the age of 67, I’ve thought about those things, too. Of course, I want to stay as young as possible for as long as possible. Only time will tell. I would love to leave some kind of lasting legacy, but I know that I won’t. I’ll be satisfied to be remember in a hundred years. Of course, I want safe and successful lives for all of my descendants. I just doubt that I’ll have much influence on that. As for being surrounded by loved ones: My children and grandchildren have their own lives to live. I would love to see them as often as feasibly possible, but they have more to do with their lives than being overly concerned about me. I will have lived my life and I want them to have the same privilege. Let them live it while they can.

JillJune 7, 2022

That upsets me. I married late. I had one child, who identifies as gay and does not want children. Grandparenting will likely never be a reality for me.

ColinJune 6, 2022

I'm with you, Wally, in being concerned by well-meaning efforts to reduce everything to self-esteem—especially because if that's the problem, then the solution looks like increasing self-esteem and this leads to terribly misguided efforts like giving hollow praise and trophies for everything. Loving God and feeling loved by Him are a lot closer to core solutions. I've often heard people claim that the second great command, "Love thy neighbor as thyself," is somehow a command to love ourselves. If that's what Jesus meant, it's surprising that the parable he told to illustrate the principle described a man, the Samaritan, who never once that of himself. Not for a moment.

MaryannJune 6, 2022

I love your statement: "Self-affirmation must not replace heavenly attestation." As a bookseller for many years, I noticed so many books being released that present alternate routes for achieving happiness, peace, and self-esteem, INSTEAD OF trusting in the Lord and following HIS path. It seems that every month new books are released claiming to be the magic formula for "feeling good" about ourselves and our lives. As you stated, In order to have true peace and joy, we must combine our understanding of our divine worth with a spirit of humility, a willingness to repent, and deep gratitude to the Lord for enabling us to accomplish good things. When our motivation is to please our Heavenly Father and our Savior, we will feel that divine attestation from the Spirit that we are on the right path. There is no greater joy.

Tom BaxterJune 6, 2022

In King Benjamin’s profound and life-changing sermon to the Nephites, the power of the Holy Ghost bore witness of his words and brought about a change of heart in his listeners. Mosiah 4:3 tells us they experienced a “peace of conscience “ “3 And it came to pass that after they had spoken these words the Spirit of the Lord came upon them, and they were filled with joy, having received a remission of their sins, and having peace of conscience, because of the exceeding faith which they had in Jesus Christ who should come, according to the words which king Benjamin had spoken unto them.” In my opinion this is God’s definition of the non- scriptural term self esteem.

Andrew J CurrieJune 6, 2022

I've always thought D&C121:45 is the best explanation of self-esteem and how to obtain it. It has no hint of self-concern or, even, self-awareness: "Let thy bowels ... be full of charity towards all men … and let virtue garnish thy thoughts unceasingly; then shall thy confidence wax strong in the presence of God....” What better description of meaningful self-esteem than 'being confident in the presence of Deity'?

Bonnie MJune 6, 2022

This article is amazing. Such clarification that is so important. Thank you so much! Bonnie

Joy PorterJune 6, 2022

This is an interesting article and has some thoughtful interpretations of self-esteem. However I disagree on some level with the idea of denying ourselves the ability to reprogram the negative beliefs that we have received from our childhood. As a member of the church's 12-step Addiction Recovery Program, I have learned that we can do nothing without the grace of our Savior, Jesus Christ. Addictions and negative beliefs cannot be changed without His intervention and help. As was mentioned in the article... it is true that we are nothing when it comes to making changes in ourselves. However as Professor Sandberg, at BYU, so beautifully put it: change really takes courage + action + Grace. For myself, I have learned that I have spoken so critically to myself for the last 65 years that there must be some reprogramming of my mind. So, every morning and evening I tell myself that I am a beautiful child of God. That I am worthy of love and respect. That I am a fallible human being who makes mistakes but I'm a worthwhile and lovable human being. Many of us carry terrible "stinkin thinkin" which sadly lies to us, telling us we are not worthy of our Saviors grace, love and atonement. This is where the action step of reprogramming my mind has made a great difference. I have felt more worthy to approach My Savior, to ask him to change my very heart, to turn my life completely over to him and trust that he can do more with me than I can do with myself. I've seen literal miracles using this approach. I think there's room for both in this negative, critical world we live in.

Donald CyrJune 6, 2022

What's a revelation ! This article bring me to a profound re-evaluation of the concept of self esteem that I am fighting for so many years... It's a relief to understand this principle in a different perspective for now on... Thanks for this enlightenment in your today publication.

Bera SautuJune 5, 2022

Great article! Inspiring too. Thank you.

LaceyJune 5, 2022

"self-centered charitable giving" If you are paying tithing because you believe you will receive blessing from it, THAT is self-centered charitable giving. Your 'fire insurance's money is about you rather than about others.

MaryannJune 4, 2022

The #1 way to solve our water shortage? Repent and call upon Heavenly Father for the rain needed.

Connie MurdochJune 4, 2022

I loved this article. It gives me great hope and has broadened my faith. As I increase my service in helping to gather Israel, I have every expectation that God, who is very good at His job, will be assisting me with that which I so desperately pray about. Thank you for this very informative message.

Amanda PerkinsJune 3, 2022

It was a year ago tomorrow that the Proctors stopped on their walk in the Poppies by their home to hear my daughter Naomi Perkins and Jacob Parson singing "Your Hands" one of Josh Sales Christian Cover Official songs. The kids performed and they took a picture with them, and learned of this amazing service that Josh does to help bring others to Christ through music! We have become friends with a girl in the Philippines that has joined the church, making contact with me and my daughter after hearing her Christian Cover. The powere of good music is amazing.

OwenJune 3, 2022

Simply put, God has commanded us to pay tithing to Him through His church. My wife and I do so. Blessings truly come as we keep this commandment, leaving us in a position to pay Fast Offerings and other donations to church causes AND donate to charities of our choice. So thankful that God keeps His promises!!!!

IndaJune 3, 2022

I believe someone should sue these movie producers for lies and slander.

JuliannJune 3, 2022

I went to school with three of the younger Lafferty brothers. They were leaders, intelligent and accomplished. Good looking too. I can’t imagine how painful it must be for their families to have this painful period portrayed in such a twisted manner. Persecution toward the Church has always originated from apostate members. History may repeat itself.

MarciaJune 3, 2022

Singer provides great enunciation to the wonderful words.

Jo Ann McVey OkelberryJune 2, 2022

This article was very well written and easy to understand. Thank you for the great effort and time that all of you spent to write this. I haven't watched this production because I am tired of seeing and reading what those who have left the Church have to say since I know they are not saying my truth.

MaryannJune 2, 2022

Thank you for this article. I think it is so important to remember that no one truly knows what goes on in a marriage other than the two people in the marriage. Speculation and side-taking are hurtful forms of unrighteous judgement. I hope your words will help others to offer love and support for those who divorce.

MaryannJune 2, 2022

Thank you so much, Joni. As I am growing older, I am feeling the sting of being labeled as "old." Sometimes when I am conversing with someone, it becomes very apparent they don't see me and they are not talking to ME. They are talking to and "old" person. I think we sometimes shrug off labeling, gossip, and criticism as minor sins. They are not. They destroy love and unity, and create contention, which the Savior condemned. If we are to be a Zion people who are prepared to meet the Lord, we must rid ourselves of these divisive practices. One of the great blessings of having the Spirit with us is that we discern the strengths in one another and rejoice in them.

CaryJune 2, 2022

Did I read that correctly? That the character played by Andrew Garfield is entirely fictional and does not exist anywhere but this televised series. That in itself would entirely invalidate this series as credible. Especially when presented without any artistic or other context as such. What were they thinking? What was Garfield thinking?

Phillip SmithJune 2, 2022

It makes me sad that those with hatred or animosity toward the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints attack those of us who believe in it. The leader of the Church, the Lord Jesus Christ, said the following (Matthew 5:11-12) Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceedingly glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Helen CondonJune 2, 2022

And missionary work goes on being the veil, too! We had had my father’s work done in 2000 when I visited my mother in Australia. They were divorced in the 1960s and dad had remarried. We had him sealed to both of his wives. In 2010, when my 24 year old son died from brain cancer, the only active member among my five children, I felt his presence in Sacrament meeting a few weeks later. My father was with him and he was telling my dad not to worry about being in “that Mormon Church” but to come and listen to his little girl sing.

vickieJune 2, 2022

i didnt read all of this. i joined the church in 1977. i worked on myself for over a year to stop cussing. i wanted to go to the temple. by changing my life and life style i did say heavenly Father and called everyone brother and sister but also used their last name instead of mr and mrs. i will not appologize for this and feel it is okay to do. i remember people better that way by using their last name and that they are either my sister or brother in faith. when someone chooses to make fun of what i do or my church does. ...i remember one thing....i choose to be other than of this act and believe outside of this world. i dont want to be like all the other worldly people. i want to be like Christ. i dont wear pioneer dresses...i do believe they were trying to make fun of the church....and trying to make fun of how we think and feel. what matters more to me what i believe ....and that is in Christ. we have to expect that this is going to happen. what it makes me wonder is it going to be because another mormon is going to come forth to be involved in this countries governance. and the devil is working hard to defame and create a false narative in peoples minds about latter day saints. i will be watching...

vickieJune 2, 2022

i joined the church in 1977 with my husband. we attended the temple when we could because there werent that many temples back then. we had to travel far. we went to the temple off and on and lived near one where we became the special couple. i loved it. then down the road husband had cancer surgery to remove his prostate. they nicked a nerve and he is now totally incontinent and cant go. when he rises from sitting it flows everywhere. im in continent in a different way. its amazing how we are like this and together. anyway i feel such an urge to do online temple work. i do things like grave work on finding graves and other websites and also on family search. i love it. there are many ways one can do temple work. i feel the presence of angels or family when doing these things.

RebeccaJune 2, 2022

This article was full of grace and understanding, which is very needed for parents today. It clearly offered hope to many. At the same time, I wish there was more of an emphasis on what we CAN do to fight for our children. I don't think the Lord's people really understand what we are up against, and we are not doing enough to stem the tide. What has worked for past generations is NOT enough today. Godly parenting needs to be completely revamped. Perhaps that was simply not the scope of this article. But let's not give up. We are at war, and we need to armor up and get on the battlefield.

NJune 2, 2022

America imports only 15% of its food. This crisis is man-made by our corrupt government and the world elites. Please reread the constitution, know your rights and stand up for them- It’s time to wake up! REPENT-PREPAREand PRAY

Howard & Rosalie Madsen PiersonJune 1, 2022

Definitely Not a read aloud story! Couldn't stop laughing!

DebrahJune 1, 2022

I have found when I pay my tithing I always seem to have a little extra at the end of the month to give to a charitable cause of my choosing. The Lord stretches my money to meet my needs and to consider an occasional want, too. Faith! How many times has the Lord feed me, clothed me, found me a bike for my child that I could afford, put shoes on me as a child because my parents paid tithing? I should write a book! I have been blessed with adequate for my needs and to donate to others, if I pay my tithing.

Sally SmithJune 1, 2022

I have been watching the signs for quite sometime. I have been preparing by obtain ing food, clothing , shelter, and water. Don't have enough water. Thank you for this article.

Doris WilliamsJune 1, 2022

Elder Bednar really hit it out of the park with this address to the press. My heart just swelled with his perfect answers to difficult questions, leaving no doubt as to the church's position and the reality that Jesus Christ is the head of the church. Mr Courageous, Mr. Articulate, A true Apostle of Jesus Christ.

Wendy H WoodJune 1, 2022

How can I say, "This is God's only true church," and say, "but I don't trust His representatives to do what's right?" I am among those who think that financial reserves are a good thing, and that the "rainy day fund" may be able to ease the coming deluge, which has already started.

Adam from OhioJune 1, 2022

I've started paying on my surplus properties as it says in the scripture. As I am still in debt for my education and my home that equals zero dollars. I do not have a surplus. Change my mind.

Cindy BJune 1, 2022

Jules Verne's "Around the World in Eighty Days" also had a very misinformed segment about "Mormons" when they were crossing America. As much as that book is fun, its inaccuracy is misleading and disappointing. A lesson we can learn is perhaps we shouldn't believe all we read about others cultures or beliefs until we use reliable sources, not sensationalized snippets.

Richard NelsonJune 1, 2022

This sounds like the story of Cain and Able. Cains sacrifice was rejected because it was not precisely what the Lord commanded.. it was this act that began his apostasy from God.

PatrickJune 1, 2022

There are some months I pay up to 12%, just to be sure. I love the blessings I receive and the feeling I get when I pay tithing.

Michael WidemanJune 1, 2022

Our offering (tithing) is laid upon the Lord's altar. He determines and directs its use through His called agents. What we give and what remains was already His and was His gift to us. What we give, He gives to us again "...good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over..."

Paul HMay 31, 2022

Many years ago President Spencer Kimball told of a man that had spent his "tithing money" on something other than tithing, all of which were good things, and then asked "What do you think of that?", to which President Kimball replied, "I'd say you were very generous with someone else's money." Good luck keeping the admonition to attend the temple regularly if you aren't a full tithe payer as that's a requirement to hold a current, valid recommend. . This also suggests an arrogant attitude that you know better than the Lord's servants where the funds should be allocated.

MaryannMay 31, 2022

I had not heard of this "trendy tithing" practice and I'm pretty shocked. Thank you for the reminder of the necessity and also great blessings of paying tithing in the Lord's way. I guess that's what it all boils down to--are we going to keep the commandments in the Lord's way? OR-- or are we going to trust in the "arm of flesh," accepting false doctrines, and then justifying ourselves in our own reasoning and rationalization? I am reminded of President Nelson's counsel to "Let God prevail" in our lives. There are no alternate routes to God's presence, other than the straight and narrow path. Thank you for your insights.

Neal ChristensenMay 31, 2022

Sounds like Trendy apostacy.

Ronald H SnyderMay 31, 2022

While I had never heard of this idea, the article certainly points out the flaws in the logic. I would say, in defense of the "national columnist" (whoever it is), that the people who do this were not likely to pay tithing to the Church anyway and therefore, encouraging them to give a similar amount to worthwhile charities is certainly a good idea, To presume that I am better suited to determine how the Lord's funds should be allocated is the height of effrontery. God already had sufficient resources, financial and otherwise, before instituting the law of tithing. That does not exempt us from proving our faithfulness and devotion by complying with a straightforward commandment.

Megan PickettMay 31, 2022

Well written article that expounds perfectly on the reason tithing is necessary and why people may think that trendy tithing is the way to go, but it’s not! Great job!

CallieMay 31, 2022

I think of my tithing as the Lord's money. I do not choose what the Lord does with His money.

SherylMay 31, 2022

The sifting continues. I can testify wholeheartedly to the blessings that come when you pay full and honest tithing.

Barbara ReedyMay 31, 2022

The widows mite was a true a kitchen amount but Christ did not give her the ok to use it for what or who she chose. Also it says bring all of your tithes into the Bishops warehouse. Will not be your choice if its for the poor in our wards, overseas for food, meds, water, The is a place for every dime, here or abroad.

ShaunaMay 31, 2022

I was not aware of this trend. what next??? Such thinking brought to mind a quote from President Hinkley that he gave in 1995 when introducing "The Family, a Proclamation to the world.": “With so much of sophistry that is passed off as truth, with so much of deception concerning standards and values, with so much of allurement and enticement to take on the slow stain of the world, we have felt to warn and forewarn." "Trendy" tithing, is flat out sophistry,, and deception." It also reminds me of a pattern I see in the Book of Mormon...that it is the "dissenters" of the Nephites who are the cause of much wickedness. Truly a house divided against itself cannot stand. The most pernicious attacks on our faith are those who pretend to share it

Keith WilsonMay 31, 2022

Very well stated, Joel. Some of my research of other religions has taken me to study the path of the RLDS, now Community of Christ. Recently, their leadership has bought into this trendy tithing practice and now any charitable contributions that their members make to any organization can be counted as their tithing. It is sad to see how their church currently has really been struggling financially to make up some serious shortfalls in tithing donations. Tithing blesses thrice. Once when we pay it, twice when the Church receives it, and thrice when the Church uses it for good purposes.

James LittlejohnMay 31, 2022

I find it troubling, to say the least, that there is a voice proclaiming "trendy tithing". Have we not been admonished both by the living Prophets in recent times and scripture that the concept of tithes and offerings is one given to us by a loving Heavenly ZFather so we may be allowed to participate in the blessing of Israel in these the latter days? I would no more fail to adhere to the wishes and commandments of Father than to deny my testimony of the Lord., nor deny His mercy.

HalMay 31, 2022

Great article, thank you! I'm reminded of a statement I heard years ago (I forget who said it), wherein someone told a friend that he contributed his "tithing" to causes he deemed worthy. When he asked his friend his thoughts, the reply was: "I think you are being very generous with the Lord's money." Personally, I get great satisfaction in contributing to worthy, charitable causes. However, I don't ever use the Lord's money for such contributions. I love the blessings I receive from paying tithes and other offerings. Being obedient sometimes is its own reward.

Rochelle HaleMay 31, 2022

My late stepsister was a good Christian woman who believed in tithing, but she followed this trend long before it was "trendy" and would pay percentages to people or causes of her own determination. My late mother-in-law was scrupulous in paying her tithing to the Church through the Lord's program, but she "spent our inheritance" by giving to many worthy causes as well. No matter the accolades of the world, nothing can compare with the spiritual (and sometimes material) blessings that the Lord will give us as we tithe to Him.

Ann CMay 31, 2022

Many years ago, a friend told President Kimball that instead of paying tithing to the church, he gave 10% of his income to groups or individuals who he felt needed it more. He asked President Kimball what he thought about that. President Kimball's reply was "I think you are very generous - with THE LORD'S MONEY." Enough said. If you want to donate to these causes - please feel free to do so, but do it with your own money, not that which belongs to the Lord.

Ronald BarnesMay 31, 2022

Our tithing does not belong to us to do with whatever we please, it belongs to God to do with whatever He pleases. If we give our tithing allotted money to other causes, we are doing what we please with God’s money. We are determining for Him, how His money is to be spent. We would not be pleased if someone else decided how our money is to be spent. Why would God be any different? As we sing in church: We give thee but thy own, Whate’er the gift may be, For all we have is thine alone, A trust, O Lord, from thee.

JimMay 31, 2022

I hadn't yet heard of this trend; very disturbing. Reminds me of the story of a general authority (wish I could remember who) who was approached by a wealthy member who basically said, "Want to know how I pay tithing? I put that money in a special savings account, then when someone in the ward needs some help I use that account to help them. What do you think of that?" And this general authority's wise reply: "I think you're being very generous with the Lord's money."

ShareeMay 31, 2022

I'm sure there are a lot of people throughout the world who have been very happy that the Church has had a lot of money socked away for a rainy day.

HelenCMay 31, 2022

Wow! I’m so sorry this has to even be discussed! The Law of Tithing has nothing to do with the Church’s financial standing and everything to do with the Law of Obedience and Sacrifice! It was the Pharisees who ignored the widow and her mite. It was the Savior who applauded her. It’s not about the money, people!

Andrew CurrieMay 31, 2022

In a General Conference talk way back in the 1970s (I was new in the Church, so it really stuck with me), President Kimball shared a story of a friend who explained that he "tiithed" by giving 10% of his income to charities of his own choosing. When the friend asked President Kimball what he thought about his approach to tithing, President Kimball' candidly replied, "I think you are very generous with somebody else's money." It's the Lord's money; and He has already designated how tithing is gathered and distributed (i.e., The Council on the Distrbution of the Tithes).

Dr Lynn D JohnsonMay 31, 2022

It is not their money, it belongs to God. Glad to know about the latest version of apostasy.

Tom ShawMay 31, 2022

When people comment on the wealth of the church do they understand the massive commitment that the church is required t to fulfill in building up the kingdom of God on the earth? Do they understand that there will be a new city of Zion requiring to be built on the American continent. Imagine building a city for say 10-15m people with the housing, utilities & transport network. This will cost billions when it happens.

JulieMay 31, 2022

Throughout reading this article it seems those professing this new way to pay tithes have actually missed that fast offerings are the funds the church receives for the described misdirected funds. . Many years ago I was asked to donate to a specific charity through my work. At that time I made the choice to allow the leaders of my church to decide which international charities should receive my funds, because they had a much wider view of what areas of the world needed the help over my tunnel vision of the small area of the world view I could see. And I knew 100% of my donation went to better the world not someone’s salary.

LouAnne JohnsonMay 30, 2022

Josh, you are awesome! I admire your example to all of us in following the Spirit. The far reaching effects of your work will be felt by many. Your generosity will change lives. The gift you are giving is so precious. I agree, the Lord does not act randomly. He goes to great lengths to reach all of his children. What joy you must feel to be a part of the rescue. Thank You, Brother

JuliannMay 30, 2022

Wonderful article, got chills reading about this great young man and how he is using his gifts and talents. I prefer listening to Christian music and I’m 69 years old. The passion and testimony that comes through the sincere lyrics and the uplifting orchestration/beat never fails to calm my troubled heart. I hope you find great success Josh. I believe you will.

MaryMay 30, 2022

Thank you, Josh! I felt the Spirit so strongly while reading your story and listening to and watching this video! Everything about it stirred my soul! Thank you! The song is extremely powerful! I love everything about it! You and the artists are so talented! I needed this so much!

Richard HillsMay 29, 2022

NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCES All my life I’ve had wild dreams. As a kid, I’d holler at top of my voice while asleep. I don’t understand how my mind manufactures these bizarre or scary dreams even after doing some readings in oneirology where interviews and measurements on brain electrical activity have accumulated .vast amounts of data and developed impressive theories. Oneirology seems to show that we have dreams without getting any signals from outside our own minds. So it’s completely reasonable to me that NDE’s could be a completely natural phenomena that doesn’t require miraculous explanations. Good science must of course try to eliminate bias, eagerness to find or dismiss evidence for the existence of a spirit world. If faith is required beyond science, I note that faith is something you have to have to believe in something you wouldn't believe in if you didn't have it.

Christian V MinerMay 28, 2022

Your thoughts are spot on, Kim. Excellent insight and I love the parallels you made. For me, this is a perfect assessment of the differences between the power of the priesthood and the stuff made up by Simon Magus. Brava. Thank you for your enlightening article.

TracyMay 28, 2022

I am going to think back on this when my hope lessens and remember that others are experiencing similar things and Our God is mindful of us and is Our Help. Nothing has helped me so much, comiyfrom the perspective of great hope and circumstances we are sharing together.

Allison BinghamMay 27, 2022

Yep. It is very important to follow the latest power grab by WHO which a small unelected body is amending the 2005 treaty and pushing perhaps the greatest power grab yet. These International Health Regulation Amendments dissolve our national sovereignty, our US Constitution and is positioned to over ride state and county governance. 1) 2)

Joe BrightMay 27, 2022

"Centralized Planning", in short, centralization of authority, authoritarianism and collectivism are the most dangerous of ideolgies the world has come to know. This mindset is responsible for the greatest death tolls in that history. It is mutually exclusive with "capitalism", or true free market economies, and with liberty and life itself. Why does man repeatedly return to, appeal to, and embrace, concepts of "supreme authoriy" to solve his problems? Is it an easier solution than taking accountability himself? Does the temptation to relinquish accountability, individual volition, agency, for a "guaranteed outcome" ring familiar? Liberty is essential to the eternal progress of man. There is no compromise to liberty that is not tyranny. And all tyranny must be met with resistance.

MaryannMay 26, 2022

I have come to accept the fact that the doctrine of plural marriage is just something I will never fully understand in this life. Because I have a testimony, it doesn't matter. I am committed to Jesus Christ, His gospel, and His church. I don't need to understand everything in order to treasure my testimony. I hold fast to what I understand and love. Joseph Smith was a valiant prophet of God. He translated the Book of Mormon by the gift and power of God. He was valiant and endured to the end, and I owe him so much. In the midst of so much light and truth, it would be a mistake for me to focus on my confusion regarding the principle of plural marriage. "Let us all press on!"

Jo Ann McVey OkelberryMay 26, 2022

Thank you for simply stating the facts. One of my childhood friends married at age 12 around 1955. My parents and others thought that 12 was way too young to be married, but it was legal. One of my classmates in 8th grade was married and expecting a baby. I am glad I did not choose that path. I had too much fun as a teenager and enjoyed being a teen.

JackMay 26, 2022

Didn't the Prophet just say something about treating those who leave with respect? My spouse has left the church because of issues she feels strongly about and I dont believe in any way it was to sin or anything suggested here. This is perpetuating the idea that there aren't any problems in the church or its history and that those who leave are somehow immoral.

NateMay 26, 2022

Interesting article. I don't know you so why should I give your thoughts about Joseph Smith any more weight as someone else's thoughts about Joseph Smith out there on the Internet? I was wondering, if one reason for polygamy was to "raise up seed", why didn't Joseph Smith have children with any of his polygamist wives? Where does agency come into play when an angel with a sword appeared to Joseph Smith and commanding him to practice polygamy or be destroyed? I just read about this in the church essay on polygamy, excerpt below. "During the third and final appearance, the angel came with a drawn sword, threatening Joseph with destruction unless he went forward and obeyed the commandment fully." Seems to me that the principle of agency, which Satan wanted to remove as part of his plan, was for some reason superseded by the requirements for polygamy to be restored.

DavidDMay 26, 2022

If Joseph didn't have offspring with any of his 30 to 40 additional wives, then clearly his purpose was not to have "seed." And if Joseph's purpose was to give support and welfare to single women, then wouldn't he have limited his new wives to older women? Do we really think that teenage girls needed support and welfare? I honestly don't think Joseph was a pedophile. But I also don't believe for a second that an angel would have really slayed Joseph with a sword.

S. PorterMay 26, 2022

The correct link for the Hales' website:

Claudia Henderson SmithMay 26, 2022

Great information.

KathleenMay 25, 2022

Harmonious in voice and purpose!

Ann MullenMay 24, 2022

The similarities are so close that it took me several readings to understand the differences between religion one magic. Great article. Thank you.

Susan MorrisMay 24, 2022

"A 'magical' society doesn’t care about morality, kindness, or compassion, but only cares about outward behavior." An accurate description of the thoroughly corrupted ruling class of Pharisees and Sadducees during the earthly ministry of Christ. They--like the child-sacrificers of former times--maliciously slew the innocent Lamb of God in an attempt to maintain their ritualistic power over the people of occupied Israel. Thanks to the author for the thought-provoking insights.

Dave B SmithMay 24, 2022

Kim, Very well said!

JanMay 20, 2022

Love your words, love JBP. Love it all. Thanks for the reminder of the purpose of parenthood.

G K MarksMay 20, 2022

Just beautiful!! What a powerfully useful way of looking at our choices. I have been pondering this ever since I read it today.

Sandra Baird PattonMay 20, 2022

What an outstanding "read". Thank you for sharing about the grandson and then going on to quote scripture, etc. Everything you said is so true. I enjoyed reading the first article you wrote for Meridian and this one.

WallyMay 19, 2022

It is not clear to me what a parent should do as a result of the ideas in this article. It would be much stronger if it cited good parenting research and God's counsel on the subject.

HalMay 19, 2022

This is the best! I can relate to how hungry you get doing farm work. I don't recall complaining much about what we had for meals because I was always hungry after working all day. (In fact, my dad routinely said, "If you don't work, you don't eat." We knew he meant it.) I'm now in my sixties, but I still try things I know I don't like. My wife loves Brussel sprouts and makes them regularly. I always take two, eat them and think "Yep, still as nasty as they were 50 years ago." My wife and I routinely let our kids go without eating. When they complained about being hungry, we replied, "Well, you can eat what we have on the table or the next meal is breakfast (lunch, or dinner) and you can decide then if you want to eat." They were typically hungry enough to eat the next meal and none of our children ever died from missing a meal.

Laurie WhiteMay 19, 2022

I love this article! My children are raised, and I can honestly say it was a good experience. There were frustrating days. There were HARD days. The overall experience, however, was wonderful and a growing experience for both of us as parents, and for our children. I would have liked to have seen examples of fatherhood in this article, as well -- especially since the example in the beginning was an exasperating tweet from a father. Parenting is a partnership. If I had not had the support of my husband, it would have been quite a different experience. I've often said that I don't know how single parents do it. Fathers, we love you!

DavidDMay 19, 2022

For casual readers of the second edition of The Earliest Text, it would be great to have a "redline" version, showing in-context changes to the official double column version of the Book of Mormon. Any chance of that?

JayMay 19, 2022

in order for someone to even consider having an abortion for any of the reasons above... it actually needs to be legal so that it can be performed by competent doctors

C MinerMay 18, 2022

I sustain both the church's stance on abortion in the handbook, as well as giving money to whomever the First Presidency and Quorum of the 12 apostles deems worthy of it's funding. This is all about discernment. The Spirit whispers to those holders of the keys of the priesthood when it is necessary. In the Book of Mormon, the Prophet Nephi was commanded to kill Laban for God's purposes. It is no different in my mind.

Kathleen SchadeMay 18, 2022

You've done it again, Lynne. I always enjoy your articles, and this is no exception. Thanks for sharing your gifts!

LAMBMay 18, 2022

A lot of teen girls don't want to go out with their dads anymore just like some teen boys don't want to go out alone with their mom anymore. If she feels uncomfortable being out alone with an older man, it should be family going out, not alone with dad anymore. Teens start separating themselves to become individuals.

MaryannMay 18, 2022

Elder Bednar's conference talk about not heeding mocking or false reports against the church lightens the load we may sometimes feel when we hear of these things. Because we love the gospel so much, our first impulse may be to become defensive or argumentative. I love that we can "heed not what the wicked may say." Our best course of action is to live the gospel and love one another, so that people have so many reasons to respect members of the church that they dismiss false information.

MaryannMay 18, 2022

I think one of the funniest things I ever read was Dave Barry's comment that we all know brussell sprouts are really the severed heads of martians. I think there can be a fine line between encouraging our children to eat healthful foods, or becoming fanatical about it. We have enough eating disorders without being too forceful about kids eating foods they truly hate. Sometimes kids hate foods because they are actually allergic to them. Of course. cutting out junk food snacks is a good idea. But, If a child consistently hates peas, wouldn't a good alternative to offer another green vegetable? Would an adult want someone to insist they eat something they dislike?

MaryannMay 18, 2022

All I had to do was read the first 3 words: "Should I force...?" No matter what the problem or subject matter is, the answer is "no." You cannot force anyone to do anything, nor should we try. The greatest influence is love.

H NorthMay 18, 2022

"Members must not submit to, perform, arrange for, pay for, consent to, or encourage an abortion." However, it's apparently completely okay to donate millions to pro-abortion organizations like the UN and the NAACP...

stevie maireid mckennaMay 18, 2022

The repelling of the advancing Russian troops was due to the army of the Ukrainians, which was aided by NATO weaponry, not the citizens totting guns with a "cowboy" mentality to shoot em' up like we find in the US.

Doris WilliamsMay 18, 2022

The heavenly combination of Dallyn Bayles, Jenny Oaks Baker and that wonderful orchestra brings to life the inspired words of Orson F. Whitney. So grateful for our resident scholar, Daniel Peterson, who brought the complete experience to us.

AXLMay 18, 2022

This was so beautifully and eloquently taught. I love the examples and simplicity. Thank you for helping soften my heart.

CarolMay 18, 2022

This is a topic I've wondered about for a long time - how many nudges have I missed because I am too "busy" to hear. Your article has inspired me to listen better and actually follow through on my nudges. Thanks!

tfMay 18, 2022

A fine article, and the link to the musical presentation was a beautiful illustration. Jennie Oaks Baker always presents something nice. One thing that was missing was credit to the composer of the musical score, which is Rob Gardner. I've been sharing this article with friends.

CarolMay 18, 2022

Love your articles whatever they are about! This one brought back lots of memories. Another thing to try when introducing new foods is to only give a very small portion - sometimes only a bite. A kid will be more likely to eat 1 bite than a whole pile of something. It worked in our family along with all the other suggestions you gave. Love your daughter's inventiveness of putting the green beans in your sleeve. :)

CarolMay 18, 2022

Thank your for this video it truly shares the feeling of family history work and the blessings in the temple. Taking a family name to the temple is the best feeling ever!

zeke abramsMay 18, 2022

My Heavenly Father gave me talents and abilities to use for the Glory of the Kingdom of God during my probation on Earth. In 1994 I became a member of His Church; in 2001 I moved to Brasil where I have been ever since. In the twenty-one years, I've been here, I have never learned the Portuguese language. Instead, I spent nineteen years teaching English to professional men and woment, the lessons for whom I composed myself. I did not teach from the available books and texts which propound the British English; nay, I taught American English, which is a bastardized replication of the True English language from Britain. I am a teacher; I was called to teach in 1972 while sitting in the car, waiting for my wife to leave her floor as a nursing assistant, to let me take her home. The Lord spoke to me so clearly as I patiently waited in the car. "You're going to teach. Get an education in the Scriptures." I sort of did that... but now, the value of that calling on my life is a reality. But I need to learn the language of this people, in whose midst, I expect to see the last day of my life on planet Earth. The testimony I read in Lynne Perry Christofferson's short message is a true inspiration for me to get off my duff and learn Portuguese, that I may offer something to the Ward of Believers here in Assis, a medium-sized community of farming and industry, in the countryside of Sao Paulo state. Thank you, Lynne...

Alexander PowellMay 17, 2022

This fear of an approaching nationwide abortion ban is all the Dem's have going for them at this point. Every policy of Biden's has been an abject failure and yes, there's a global recession coming brought on by Jo printing money like it's toilet paper to meet a pandemic shortage. Given there is nothing polling for the Dem's other than this fear, this won't go away before November mid-terms. Hmm, the Chinese can see all the munitions, howitzers and assorted equipment flowing to Ukraine and you can bet they will strike Taiwan while *the USA doesn't have the weapons to fight another conflict*, It's all coming together now, forming like a perfect storm...

Howard & Rosalie Madsen PiersonMay 17, 2022

So beautiful! Thanks for the back story, too. The setting is perfect!

Annie JensenMay 17, 2022

Thanks for the reminder of what the Supreme Court’s role truly is.

JuneMay 16, 2022

Thank you so much for this article! The Lord knew exactly that I needed to read this. I appreciate the peace, insight, clarity, and comfort this article has bought me. Thank you again!

Naida koellikerMay 16, 2022

Love this. Thanks

Annette MillerMay 16, 2022

Beyond marvelous. Stirring. Lovely. Thank you most ardently.

MickeyMay 15, 2022

So many red flags here. The dad wants to repair his relationship with the child by forcing her to engage in activities HE likes, and that kids should please adults. He sounds emotionally empty and self serving. I think the mom needs to protect her daughter from her father. He doesn’t sound safe. I would not require my child be alone with him at all.

Angela MannMay 15, 2022

I can’t love this article enough. This is exactly what my heart and soul know as truth. Ya know when you’re in the ocean at the beach, and the water isn’t very clear and something bumps up against you and you get that icky feeling like you need to get out of the water now….the lack of gospel doctrine truths being taught or supported in church and at home feels a lot like that.

Robert StarlingMay 14, 2022

I value greatly not only spiritual inspiration, but also reason and logic. This author has combined both in a masterful essay, that in my humble opinion should be required reading (and required discussing) for all Christians, and especially all Latter-day Saints. We sing "We Thank Thee O God for a Prophet", but what is the value if we are not valiant in obeying and teaching to our children and to others the truths that God has revealed through our prophets? Our Father has given us revelatory guidance for our happiness and our benefit, that we might not be "tossed to and fro with every wind of doctrine." Copy and forward this message to parents and others, everywhere. Amen, and Amen.

ElizabethMay 14, 2022

“Should I force my daughter to do activities with her dad?” Are you joking? Why would anyone do such a thing? You must be aware that your daughter may have very good—-even self-protective—-reasons for avoiding him. Why, then, would you force her into a potentially harmful situation?

Kristene LindorfMay 13, 2022

Wow... I love it. Where do I sign up?

Kate PiersantiMay 13, 2022

I was recently challenged about teaching my children the whole gospel as they grew up. Why didn't I expose them to other philosophies as they grew? This article is so timely and one I will share with all that think I am brainwashing my children, when I know I am doing what is my responsibility as a parent.

Claudia Henderson SmithMay 13, 2022

Very interesting article and great logical conclusions!! Good job, Scot.

Duane BoyceMay 13, 2022

Amen. A wonderful article.

Web TasarımMay 13, 2022

I just like the helpful information you provide in your articles

Jo Ann OkelberryMay 11, 2022

Thank you for making me feel better. Four of my seven children have left the Church, and I always beat myself up by assuming all responsibility for not teaching my children correctly. Now I do feel better.

Craig FrogleyMay 11, 2022

You always say it with power and truth. Thank you, once again. What you have written is TRUE!! At ONE ment!

Candy Lee HuntMay 11, 2022

Excellent, hopeful, insightful and inspiring article, from a parent who has been there. Thank you! I have already shared it with friends.

katyMay 11, 2022

This is brilliant. Thank you!

Rebecca BMay 11, 2022

Thank you so much for this article. Despite all we know in the gospel, it’s so hard for my spouse and I to not blame ourselves. Were we too strict? If we hadn’t pushed so hard to get them to go to church, etc… This article gave me both comfort and perspective. Well done!

HalMay 11, 2022

Thank you for this article, Joseph! This is a tremendous help to my wife and me as we navigate the varying levels of apostacy of our beloved children, siblings, nieces / nephews, etc. We determined long ago to stay the course regardless of the choices our other family members make and have found joy in knowing we have the Greatest Power in the universe who is aware of our struggles and is helping us on a daily basis.

KarenMay 11, 2022

I loved this article! Spot on for me, it rings true.

LaurieMay 11, 2022

Thank you for writing and sharing this. These topics have been on my mind frequently for years and I appreciate this perspective on Atonement and the the insights that came to me while reading it.

Chuck DeWittMay 11, 2022

Great article but,,, BYU has a few teachers pushing Critical Race Theory and other junk. Be cautious. They are trying to clean things up but quite a few parents have been devasted. What happened to Elder Holland last year after his talk. Cwik on youtube is informative.

John R CarpenterMay 11, 2022

The reality of mortal life is that it is not easy. It was never designed to be easy. It was designed to help us experience mortal existence and how to over come things based on FAITH in Our God and His Son, Our Savior. "And if we should die before our journey is through, Happy Day! All is Well!"

CPMay 11, 2022

Profound and important points, written with an enlightened perspective Thank you for sharing your experiences and thoughts with us.

MarieMay 11, 2022

I can't tell you how much I needed this! Thank you. Nothing has touched my heart for a long time like this article has. You've helped me. You've done Atonement work.

PennieMay 11, 2022

Amen! This war is real and at times viscous. But it's true, Christ is with us, so what or who can be against us. Twenty plus years of prayers and pleading for a lost son, resulted in a terrible injury that left him disabled, but finally humbled. In the intervening years he has done so much good. When the day came that I walked through the temple doors with him, I could hardly believe it. If the Savior can redeem this lost soul, He can redeem anyone. They need faithful parents who are determined to follow Christ no matter what.

Linda Van CottMay 11, 2022

An AMAZING article for bringing peace to so many hurting families. I felt hopeless before, but now see things differently--in a way that helps me move on with hope and comfort. Thank you for these empowering insights.

Kimball RasmussenMay 11, 2022

Brother Grenny, This is excellent and so very well articulated. Thank you. One particular line of your words inspired me to write this short stanza: Life is our school, And pain is our teacher, With much better sermons, Than we get from a preacher! I also liked your perspective on “The Plan.” It is helpful to recognize that “The Plan” is associated with “Happiness” only twice in the scriptures; yet, “The Plan” is associated with “Redemption” ten times! Faith in the redemption of Christ comes first.

Lexie StatonMay 11, 2022

Thank you Brother Grenny. There is nothing more important to me than the gospel and building an eternal family. What you wrote has helped me to continue to change my perspective. I have had some personal experiences similar to yours that have helped me find peace and clarity amid disappointments experienced within our family; your article helped me to clarify some things and receive a boost, which is always welcome.

Tom TomenyMay 11, 2022

Wow, what a great article. I needed this, today, and every day, and I suspect everyone else does as well!

JuliannMay 9, 2022

Love the analogy. Powerful and humbling. Thank you. The day after Mother’s Day is the perfect time to post and read and share.

MaryMay 9, 2022

Thank you for this reminder. I laughed and cried at the truth of your descriptions. Watching my daughter recently enter motherhood for the first time, I had a shiver of trepidation for the life of servitude and labor that lies ahead. But there is no greater or more worthwhile labor. Your words add a reminder of the spiritual value of our maternal efforts.

ShayMay 9, 2022

Tremendous article. Thank you!

Jo Ann OkelberryMay 6, 2022

This article makes me appreciate my own mother and my Heavenly Mother even more. Thank you for sharing your story. I am sure your mom is smiling and proud of you.

Mary janeMay 6, 2022

Love you

lindaMay 5, 2022

Heartbreaking and heartwarming.

KathleenMay 5, 2022

Refreshing to highlight the positive!

G WyneMay 4, 2022

Thank you for this! Understanding and believing the doctrine of a Heavenly Mother has been essential for me personally to feel the depth of God's love. I am so grateful to know of Her existence, and that She loves me!

Vivian McConkie AdamsMay 4, 2022

Very funny. Always love your column.

Jo Ann OkelberryMay 4, 2022

This article is so fascinating. I learned so much. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and understanding with us.

Linda LMay 4, 2022

Thank you, for this beautiful article. It is precisely what I needed at this particular time. While I am a strong believer in miracles, your article gave me a clarity and inspiration that will expand and direct my faith experiences in more effective directions. My random discovery of your article has been a miracle to me this very day.

RozyMay 4, 2022

Is there any other way to buy your book? I refuse to purchase through Amazon, but would like to have a copy.

Julie Coulter BellonMay 4, 2022

Thank you so much for the recommendation, Patti! I will definitely check it out.

Sarah HinzeMay 3, 2022

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BillMay 3, 2022

Interesting article if your a middle aged divorcee. What have you got for a widowed senior citizen?

Grant NicholasMay 3, 2022

I have noticed, particularly with widows and widowers, that if the wife dies first, it's tougher on the man. He is in a sense a loner except for his partner. If the man dies first the wife quickly grasps onto her network of friends. They all sit together at church

Ronald BarnesMay 3, 2022

Almost your entire article was about being single after divorce. That is not my case. I am 67 years old and have been married for 45 years. Within a few years I will also be single again; not because of divorce, but because my wife is dying of a terminal disease. I went from high school to the mission field to marriage two months later. I have never lived alone either and I do not look forward to it. While I can relate to some of the things you mentioned, many others I can’t. Maybe you, or another contributor, will someday post an article addressing us (or in my case, future) old widows/widowers.

HelenCMay 2, 2022

I recently felt the power of this change when I responded to a thread from an evangelical friend suggesting I would be safer as a “true Christian” by stating I was convinced that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was precisely that. The conversation ended with no further argument.

MatthewMay 1, 2022

This is pretty common in lots of marriages. 50% of which end in divorce for the same reason. They don’t know how to communicate. I’d reference a serious study of Ammon in the BoM and the movie “Fireproof”. If you understand these principles, you’ll heal your marriage or end it. Either way, you’ll learn a lesson and have better results going forward. I’m rooting for you saving the marriage though

DarrelApril 30, 2022

Will it be made into a DVD to buy?

Susan GraceApril 29, 2022

how and where can Californians see this movie?

Susan GraceApril 29, 2022

Oh this sounds like a wonderful movie. I have several people who would benefit from seeing it and a grandson that needs to see it. But we live in California. How to see it?

DWBApril 29, 2022

Ticket purchase app doesn’t work properly

Connie ComptonApril 29, 2022

I’ve always been conscious of the Lord’s tender mercies, but your expression of “Love Notes” truly warms my heart. It seems to pinpoint exactly what my heart feels towards my Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ as I remember they know my name…and my heart. Thank you for the reminder.

Erika PechacekApril 29, 2022

I know that these experiences are real. When I had a deadly form of cancer, I experienced my arrival in the Spirit World. A large number of people, all dressed in white, were dancing and celebrating my arrival. One lady came up to me and said "finally, finally you are here to teach us. We have been waiting so long already". Then my grandfather came and said "Not so fast, you know that we have to have permission first". With that he took me somewhere and then talked to someone, came back and said "sorry, but it is not your time yet. You have to go back to earth to do some important work".With that I recognized my environment again and lived (now 5 years) after that experience.

Rebecca WardApril 29, 2022

For those of us not on Utah, any plans to put this out on DVD?

PattiApril 29, 2022

I have some of your books and love the stories. I wish I lived in Utah to be able to see this movie. When will it play elsewhere or pay online for viewing?

Beverly Barnt MooreApril 29, 2022

Yes last week I received a love message from my Lord in a strange form. I awoke to find the tiny diamond birthstone missing from my mother's ring. I was heartbroken. My daughter gave me the ring with my birthstone and mother's and her and her brothers over 30 years ago. Later I noticed something on the bathroom floor and picked it up but without glasses I wasn't sure it was even more than cat litter. Later I went back with glasses on and looked again.......yes? maybe? I taped it to a paper and took it and the ring to a jeweler who confirmed it was my tiny diamond. Now if that isn't a message of love I just don't know what is. HE also answers my prayers for more time to do family history every time I get sick. I KNOW HE LOVES ME!

Bette R HarpApril 29, 2022

When can I buy this? I'm nowhere near Utah. Please, my family needs to see it!

HalApril 29, 2022

I loved this article, especially the story about little Alan. Many years ago my friend told me a similar story about his adopted son. Once when they were having a family home evening lesson on temples, my friend showed a photo of the celestial room in the Salt Lake Temple. He asked his then 5-year-old son if he knew what the picture was. His son answered, "Yes, that's where you and mom got married." My friend was startled because neither he nor his wife had ever had this discussion with their young son before. My friend said, "That's right! How did you know that?" His son pointed to a window in the picture and said, "Because I was standing right there and watched you." I have had similar experiences with my own children. I have no doubt that we have memories of our heavenly home buried deep in our souls.

Debra M.April 29, 2022

Loved this! The idea of a love note is so special. I had an experience maybe 4 years ago that stands out--I have a granddaughter that was due to receive her Young Womanhood award in her sacrament meeting, Her mom was not active, and I was told to meet her at the building--she had a ride with a neighbor. I got there, and no granddaughter. The meeting started and she had been told by the bishop he would give the award before the sacrament. I saw him looking at the doors watching for her. The sacrament had just finished when she walked in , almost in tears. Her ride had been late, and she was sure it was too late. I was about in tears also, because this award meant so much to her, and she had persevered to get it despite the difficulties in always needing rides to meetings and activities. I just keep looking at the bishop, willing him in my mind to call Zoe up and praying mightily that he would see her. After the speakers were done he called her up to the podium and gave her the award--then I really did cry with relief and gratitude that there was a bishop who listened to promptings and our hearts. My granddaughter and I had a private joke whenever we witness these tender mercies--"The Church is true!" and that was the first thing she said when she sat down after receiving her award. Maybe a small thing, but to us it was great! It was a witness to us that Heavenly Father knows us so well.

Dorrie KeithApril 28, 2022

I feel compelled to share a couple of "love notes from the Lord. It was morning, I had hit rock bottom, emotionally. After watching my husband's mind dwindle away from dementia, going through the Paradise fire in a very intense way, being isolated because of the covid pandemic, being a full-time caretaker and then widowed after nearly 70 years of marriage, I had reached the end of my endurance. I tearfully and desperately prayed for some relief, something to pull me out of the despair I was sinking into. Soon, the phone rang, and it was a representative from Social Security telling me she had cut through the red tape and obtained my survivor's benefits plus back pay. I had been struggling with them for several weeks and had almost given up. Of course, that brightened my spirits considerably but within an hour I could feel myself sinking again. I glanced out the window and right in front of it was a wild tom turkey, looking up at me with his scrawny neck stretched out. He was trying to figure out if a real person was there, so I stood very still. Along came his hen and four adolescent poults, acting like typical teenagers. The family then put on such a comedy act that I dissolved into tears...of laughter. What strange angels the Lord sends sometimes to do His work!

Loren DaltonApril 28, 2022

Great article! Thanks for reminding us all just how much God is aware of us and that He is constantly sending us these little reminders and you have done a wonderful job of reminding of these little things that we may otherwise overlook are really messages from Him to us!

Taylor StonelyApril 28, 2022

Thank you for sharing your experiences! I laughed and I cried, because I can totally relate to how the desires of my heart were seemingly crushed, only to have the Lord intervene with his love note to me.

Elaine MathewsApril 28, 2022

Your article made me smile all the way through! I now know what to call the little but amazing personal reminders that tell me my hopes and thoughts are known to the Lord. Just as you said- they’re not earth-shattering, desperate pleadings but more ‘if only I could, wouldn’t it be lovely’ musings that when they come to pass, feel like a warm hug from home that remind me I’m loved. I also feel that in acknowledging and thanking Him for sweet treasures enables me to see His hand each day more clearly.

ColinApril 27, 2022

This is beautiful and rings with truth. Thank you.

Ronald BarnesApril 27, 2022

I have read and heard many near death experiences. One of the most profound, was a woman who had been born blind, but who was able to see what was happening around her body during her experience.

Mariam KitchenApril 27, 2022

Thank you!

Marjohna MadsenApril 27, 2022

Thank you for being willing to share and help. Some traumas are long, slow corrosive patterns of aloneness, abandonment or negative relationships. There is hope in Christ’s message of worth to each soul. He atoned first each one.

Linda SpoonerApril 26, 2022

How about an article regarding the men/women that are left behind after many years of marriage. A stage that many of us have never gone thru before of being alone.

Paul HApril 26, 2022

With plural wives being a celestial principle and the diversity we see among the races of our Heavenly Father's children, is it not possible that there are Heavenly Mothers, and not just one from which all our spirits sprang? The scriptures teach there was a spiritual creation before a physical one and children look like their parents. This concept strengthens my faith; it does not offend it.

KathleenApril 26, 2022

Very well told and thank you for sharing. It's the same time in my life that I found the gospel, 50 years previously. Sure glad that I said, "Yes," to being baptized! It's made all the difference to my blessed and rich life on the Gospel/Covenant Path.

CarolineApril 26, 2022

This is excellent. And truth be told we don’t really know that much more about Heavenly Father and it is enough. What we know we can love , and we can trust that we have all eternity to become reacquainted with our Parents. .

Roger ConnorsApril 26, 2022

Seth, thanks for the comment and reference to Gospel Principles--one of the best and most reliable sources, ever! I have a chapter devoted to "why" we obey and you hit the nail on the head--the love of God.

Roger ConnorsApril 26, 2022

Hello, Ann! Yes, one in the same. Thank you for your comment!

Kimberly AnneApril 26, 2022

Great article and profound thoughts! God’s timetable is divine and perfect - we just need to be willing to have faith that the right things will happen in His timing.

Beccah GerberApril 26, 2022

Thank you for this beautifully written article! I love the inspiring truths you shared about Heavenly Mother.

Seth ConnorsApril 26, 2022

Great article. While we can’t forget the Lord loves effort, we also need to remember that our efforts don’t work in the “cosmic vending machine” way. It’s no wonder Gospel Principles proposes the obedience motivation hierarchy as 3- Fear of Punishment 2- Want of Blessings 1-Love of God. Often external punishment and blessings come far after the effort has been given which might demotivate the obeyer. But internal love of god is a source that doesn’t go out nor need immediate results.

Richard ScottApril 26, 2022

Jessica, thank you for your wonderful article. I’m sitting in a cafe in Lisbon, Portugal casually thumbing through my emails when the title of your article caught my eye. I am a lifetime church member from “pioneer stock” and to your point have never fully considered or pondered the wonderful doctrine you have written about. It truly is a great thing to ponder upon our Mother in Heaven. You raise many points that have heightened my perspective and broadened my horizon. I knew the Gospel Topics essay was there, but until now have never read and pondered it. Thank you for your gentle encouragement to give this doctrine the attention it deserves!

Laurie PollardApril 25, 2022

This is a very inspiring article. I was thrilled to learn more about the life and heart of Wilford Woodruff. I was overcome by the Spirit while reading it. Thank you for sharing your valuable research on this extraordinary man of God.

JeanieApril 25, 2022

Ideas on how to act, based on general church teachings might include getting ready by drawing closer to the Savior, being kind, and remembering that everyone on this earth made the right decision in the pre-existence, and deserves the chance to hear the truth taught, humbly and lovingly.

Laura BeauchampApril 23, 2022

Thanks, Dr. Peterson. Your insight and advice are always right on!

NicoleApril 23, 2022

Thank you for this beautifully written article. I've been praying for a way to help someone I love, this information is an answer to that prayer.

DebiApril 23, 2022

Thanks for justifying my life. 52 years in virtually the same situation. Your advice was healing for me.

MaryannApril 22, 2022

I appreciate the spirit and message of this article, but I wish the author had expanded a little more on his suggestion that we should be prepared and that we should act. Suggestions on HOW to do this would be helpful.

MaryannApril 22, 2022

I think this woman has answered her own question regarding whether she can have a happy, rewarding life in her loveless marriage. She obviously does NOT have a happy life, or she wouldn't be asking the question. There is a huge difference between having a happy life as a single, widowed, or divorced person and having a happy life in a marriage where she states there is no emotional intimacy, NOR any effort on her husband's part to have a close, loving marriage. The children are grown, so the fact that he is a "good father" doesn't seem applicable to keeping the marriage going. I feel sad that this woman doesn't end this marriage and seek for companionship with someone who cherishes her. Living in these conditions would be hell on earth for many.

AshleyApril 22, 2022

This is exactly what I needed. So hopeful and inspiring! Thank you for always sharing such a real, relatable message!

Carbine WilliamsApril 22, 2022

As always it's best to just ignore the advances of the adversary, past history has shown that anything anti LDS just strengthens our position and allows the opposite forces to just whither and die. On the day of Judgement those that wrongly persecuted the Church will gain their eternal rewards.

Gloria BarrettApril 22, 2022

It sounds like this might be something worth taking a look at. Possibly foster opportunities to do some missionary work.

RaLee HallApril 21, 2022

Thank you for this touching, well thought out article. I appreciate the time and effort you put into it.

MelodyApril 21, 2022

Beautiful singing & great msg.

BertApril 21, 2022

The message of this article was exactly what I needed today. Thank you Anne.

Diane IrwinApril 21, 2022

This quote from Jeffrey R. Holland really spoke to me, followed by your closing remarks. This article is very empowering!!!

KathleenApril 21, 2022

Talk about "all's well that ends well" and "happily ever after." Thank you for continuing this story to the end. Love your down to earth writing style.

KathleenApril 20, 2022

How incredibly timely and filled with symbolism was your experience. Thank you for sharing the story through words, pictures and testimony.

Ann SiggardApril 20, 2022

Is this the Roger Connors who was Stake President of Murrieta? I love this explanation of divine compensation! I also love to see the many patterns in the scriptures of God's dealings with his children. Thank you for your article.

HalApril 20, 2022

What a great story with a "Hallmark" ending! I loved this mini-trilogy and all the other stories you tell. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Hans S.April 20, 2022

Brother Bradshaw, I truly hope that the absence of comments to your article is not an indication that it wasn't read. I am astounded as to the volume of notes and sources you used and amazed at the time it must have taken you to put this all together. Very interesting and scholarly, to say the least. Thank you for your dedication in presenting this. For me, it was time well spent.

JaneApril 20, 2022

I find it interesting that the year 2020 ( 20+20=40)

Karell BinghamApril 20, 2022

Beautiful and tender! Thank you for your amazing understanding of the love of God!

Amy Ludwig VanDerwaterApril 20, 2022

Thank you so much for including our new IF THIS BIRD HAD POCKETS on your wonderful list! I welcome your readers to visit me at my blog, The Poem Farm, where I have been sharing poems and writing ideas for young writers since 2010. This month (April 2022), I am sharing a new poem inspired by a popular proverb each day. Happy National Poetry Month! Peace, Amy LV

Kathleen N JonesApril 19, 2022

I know for sure we have a Heavenly Mother, my second daughter when only almost 4 years old, asked me a question as to why I didn't do a certain thing, "like my other mother." When I replied I was her mother, she corrected me saying "No, my mother in heaven she use to . . . . all the time." I have left out what it was she did in respect of such holy things. That daughter is now 48 years old.

Patti HouseholderApril 19, 2022

If you really like this book, then you should listen to her Podcast, Sunday on Monday, at LDS Magazine. I have listened each week for a year and a half as she and two guests discuss the Come Follow Me lesson for that week. Since she's studied Hebrew, she brings new light into the meaning of many Old Testament scriptures.

BonnieApril 18, 2022

This is such a phenomenal idea and I really love it. Just one question. Is it too late if our 10 grandchildren range in age from 14-23? We have good long-distance relationships but want to learn & do more.

Barbara MattatallApril 17, 2022

I am responding again. I was asked to participate in our Easter Sacrament Meeting today chosing any subject concerning Easter. Elder Hafen's podcast was great fodder for my presentation. I would not have been able to do this without the written word. He gave me much to think about and research for my presentation. Thank you.

SherryApril 16, 2022

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Having the transcripts back is wonderful!

Mary DobbsApril 16, 2022

For hearing impaired, transcripts are such a blessing. Very few podcasts are available to us. It was a blessing to have a transcript.

Peter F SchlegelApril 16, 2022

Wally - thank you for being so open and brutally honest. Not only that, but also reminding each of us who to turn to and how. I too served as a bishop and had that same experience- more than once! I truly enjoy your thoughts and experiences and firmly believe they are a great help to many.

Jim TerryApril 16, 2022

To me the real question is “our there Heavenly Mothers.” If a man can be sealed to multiple wives on earth, it would make sense that God would also have multiple wives and that our spirits didn’t all come from the same mother. Just a thought.

Marsha NewmanApril 16, 2022

Thank you for this excellent piece of history and for being to my awareness the spiritual quest of General Gordon. I know that God values humility and simplicity and I feel certain He would have wanted the sacred tomb of resurrection to be a quiet, simple place for spiritual reflection. I thoroughly enjoyed this Easter offering!

DavidApril 16, 2022

Thank you brother Peterson. I can never get enough of the witnesses of our Savior. How glad I am for those who honor our Lord and defend truth under any circumstances.

KathleenApril 16, 2022

Too true! Probably heard a lot of, "Are we there yet?", as well.

OscarApril 15, 2022

I couldn't stop clicking.....the photos and essay are very profound and provoking. Muchas Gracias

Murray ChristmanApril 15, 2022

Hello, A friend of mine recalls his father using a medicine for bronchitis and on the bottle was an image of Brigham Young. He can't recall the name of the product. Can you shed light on this? thank you

JosephApril 15, 2022

As you so eloquently stated, " our mortal landscape is littered with gems". We seem to pass them by focusing on the dross, when our treasures are left aside forgotten or unnoticed when they are accessible and for the taking.

Beth TeeplesApril 15, 2022

I accept! Thank you so much.

MaryannApril 15, 2022

In some instances, maybe it would be helpful for this couple to speak privately together before disciplining. This wouldn't be possible all the time, but if they could come to an agreement BEFORE disciplining, they could show a united front. They might even say to their children, "Your mom (or dad) and I need to talk about this." This allows time to cool off and shows unity. Carefully Avoid words that make the other parent the "bad guy" or one to be feared.

Marion PomeroyApril 15, 2022

I once heard a recording of a talk by President Kimball's doctor who had accompanied the prophet in a later visit to the Holy Land. When the party was standing outside the Gatden Tomb a photgrapher wanted to take a picture of President Kimball alone in that setting. As the others in the group were moving away from the prophet, and noticing the unevenness of the ground, Arthur Haycock, President Kimball's secretary said, "Be careful, President!" The prophet replied, "It's OK, Arthur. I'm used to walking on holy ground."

KBApril 14, 2022

Oh, my goodness. I’ve been in this man’s shoes and nearly threw away my marriage over a work infatuation. It was a huge eye-opener to me about my coping mechanisms, weaknesses, and faults. My husband and I were working odd shifts and rarely saw each other. He was in law enforcement and was often tired and worn out when had a moment together. I was in an auxiliary presidency and the responsibilities were taxing and often deprived my husband of my attention. I allowed boredom and loneliness to invade my marriage when a man paid me intense interest at work. At first it was just familiarity; then it became flirtation and fixation. I resented my husband and his minor faults and relished the compliments and attraction from a man I had nothing in common with and who would not have crossed my mind or my heart in any other circumstance. I finally realized it had to stop and asked for help from my bishop and my husband. We began working on improving the trust in our relationship and I began to actively avoid any and all situations where temptation was present. I left my job. I recommitted not just my heart but also my mind to my husband and shut down my tendency to fantasize about anyone else, ever. My husband got a different job, somewhat miraculously, that allowed us much more time together. Out of the ashes we have built a much more positive, loving, trusting relationship. And that began when I asked God to help me want to repent and to recognize my inherent weaknesses, then got to work on changing my mental and emotional habits. Also, I understand depression and anxiety - deeply. Your wife needs more help with her mental health than she is getting, and she won’t be able to be there for you until she is healthier. Make her health a priority and actively pursue it.

Amy FoxApril 14, 2022

I was deeply moved by your article. We have children who suffer from mental illness, including bipolar. It's a vicious disease and I'm so thankful that you have honored your daughter and helped bring meaning to her life. Thank you for sharing that there can be beauty, even in darkness.

Judy PetersonApril 14, 2022

This is so exciting! I’m grateful that good people of the world are sharing and appreciating the light that our Father has given to all nations according to His wisdom!

BonnieApril 14, 2022

I enjoyed the analogy! Wonderfully written and a message to remember! Thank you!

Carlos RoundyApril 14, 2022

The perfect model of Heavenly Mother is Mother Eve, the mother of all living. Joseph Smith always referred to Eve as glorious Eve. He saw Adam and Eve in vision. He said Adam was a perfect man and Eve was a glorious woman.

HelenCApril 14, 2022

A powerful parable! Thank you.

Robert HalesApril 13, 2022

Thanks for the transcript. This message helped to confirm and reinforce my recent thoughts on the atonement.

maryApril 13, 2022

Our Lord and Savior taught with simplicity using parables to reach everyone. But I am always so impressed by the vocabulary and command of language when I read the words of those who have come before us....what a beautiful way to defend our disciples and hopefully we will defend them too. I thank you for your inspiring message.

Kathie CudeApril 13, 2022

Thank you for sharing! I needed this today and this is such an important message for us all to keep in the back of our minds.

Boanerge RubalcavaApril 13, 2022

I do not want to write of the electrical cars, that for sure will be good for all of us, as well as many other things, but believe me we can go to those things with the help of the fossil fuels, and we will NEVER accomplish anything in that sense if we insist in the idiocy of blaming the CO2 (fossil fuels) and banning their use. Please, stop for a moment, read, think, ponder and act accordingly without IGNORANCE AND WITHOUT FEAR. Blame if you want of being a little bit malicious if I tell you: if you want to stop the global warming, just TURN THE SUN OFF. ADDENDUM What follows are examples to show the absurdity of putting the blame in the CO2 For 128 years the temperatures in different cities of the world have been measured; these are the data for three od those cities: New York, Albany and West Point. In New York in those 128 years the temperature increased in 5 degrees Fahrenheit In Albany NY, the temperature decreased in 0.5 degrees Fahrenheit In West Point the temperature DID NOT change. Albany is 140 miles from New York, West Point is in the middle. If it is a global warming, and the CO2 is in the atmosphere equally distributed, how come New York increased its warming, Albany decreased it and West Point did not change? A football court is made of 100 yards. Think about the gases’ concentrations in the atmosphere (the football court). With just the Nitrogen and Oxygen we would reach the 99 yard, leaving the last yard mainly for Argon (O.8 yard) and the rest of the gases among them CO2, only in the painted line. Actually, the CO2 would be just 3/8 of an inch, and its increase in more than 60 years, 1/8 of an inch.

Roberta HarrisApril 13, 2022

Another beautifully written article by Becky. Yes... those small things done can be like small stones flung into a pond that results in ever enlarging rings of water going on and on. That is how good is spread. Thank you Becky.

RoZann BakerApril 13, 2022

Thanks for these beautiful insights! I enjoy all your articles but don't let you know how much I appreciate them and learn from them. Happy Easter Brother Peterson!

LewisApril 13, 2022

In many ways, your thoughtful and beautiful articles are small things that have created tremendous ripples in the lives of others. I am grateful that you take the time to share your experiences and insights with us. Bless you for the good you do.

PaulineApril 12, 2022

I agree. I copy it for highlighting. Love your insights and Bruce Hafen is a favorite of mine!

Margaret DomanApril 12, 2022

Becky, your article inspired me to re-read a similar sentiment that my beloved father had posted on his closet door: KINDNESS. … I shall pass through this world but once. If, there be any kindness I can show, or any good thing I can do, let me do it now. Let me not defer it or neglect it, for I shall not pass this way again. Love and admiration from your Rotary friend and Rising Star Outreach volunteer.

Gloria PopeApril 12, 2022

Becky, beautiful article. Thanks for reminding us of the "ripple effect". Bless you!

Marcia MorganApril 12, 2022

Nice article. Also, Tauyna is great and I love hearing her testimony alongside yours.

Doug GouldApril 12, 2022

Thanks, Robert, for this insightful article. I was one of your aficionados that bought your "Nothing Down" book, and admired you in more than one of your seminars. Though I'm sorry for what you went through when you lost your Sundance home, it's good to know how well you recovered as you worked through that tragedy with your hand in the Lord's.

Haze KompelienApril 12, 2022

I join with many others, thank you for the transcript returning.

StefanieApril 12, 2022

Thank you so much for listening to your readers and putting the written transcript back!!! It’s WONDERFUL!!!

GrannyApril 12, 2022

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and Bro. Hafen's thoughts. And THANK YOU ffor the transcript. Your column is one of my favorites--so insight filled-- and I've mourned not being able to read it.

HelenCApril 12, 2022

Your indictment of modern exposure to death is well justified. As I study the grieving process I realize its impact on modern mental health. One question. Are you referring to “pseudo-Clement” or Barnabas as the elusive witness?

Enlightened one.April 12, 2022

I really wish LDS people would stop using the word "Easter" which is a version of "Oestre" the pagan goddess of fertility. Easter is pagan! Bunnies and eggs are part of the pagan celebrations used for centuries. Time to call it what it is...Resurrection Day!

Barbara MattatallApril 12, 2022

Thank you. It is so much more meaningful when I can read it and ponder the contents.

Barbara FApril 11, 2022

How beautiful and inspiring.

JeanApril 11, 2022

I so totally enjoy any article written by Becky Douglas. I was about to close without writing anything but then felt I could do "that small thing." Thank you for your articles!

HalApril 11, 2022

Thank you for this insightful article. I have never given a second thought as to how my donations to the Church were spent. If anything, I have occasionally felt the Church was overly-generous. I have sometimes been guilty of un-Christ-like judgement of those who received Church assistance. Especially (in some cases) where the recipients appeared not only ungrateful, but even critical of the assistance they had received. I am grateful for Church leaders' financial wisdom in receiving and dispensing sacred funds.

Linda JaffaApril 11, 2022

I have loved listening to your podcast so much. They are inspiring and enlightening. I just went to your website and am shocked that I can't print out some quotes to use as I am teaching my class! I am really disappointed....

Joni HiltonApril 11, 2022

I absolutely love this article-- the far-reaching effects of that one idea to play the violin! Becky, you are such an example to all-- you have been through great trials but have turned your life into an instrument of good (no pun intended).

Beth CampbellApril 11, 2022

Out of Small Things

Meagan AndersonApril 11, 2022

Meagan, I know how much you love the painting hung over your fireplace and it's message. I thought of all the sweet things you do to make a difference in the lives of your kids, husband, neighbors, friends, both old and new, students and ward members and me. I know you will love this article. Mom

Patricia WintersApril 11, 2022

This article was so beautiful! Thank you for sharing!

Helen HederApril 10, 2022

Why can' I see the printed parts of the podcast?

DenApril 10, 2022

I believe that those on the other side of the veil watch over and comfort us. I had a dream of my mother and aunt (sisters) many years ago. We we're in my aunts living room and it was so real I actually asked them if I had died and were we in heaven. I still remember the feelings of love that washed over me. It was a hard time and their love and support really comforted me.

JocieApril 10, 2022

Advice about not running around and gossiping is EXCELLENT, but wondering why on earth you didn't recommend him to tell his friend's wife? Seems pretty brutal to me to leave her in the dark.

YvonneApril 10, 2022

This movie idea is such a fun missionary tool! I would love to get information on how to get started with this.

Anete JohnsApril 9, 2022

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! Enjoyed READING your great message. Always appreciate your testimonies.

AdamApril 9, 2022

Agree with the above. Wonderful podcasts, but please bring back the transcripts! They really help to go back and focus more on segments that catch your attention while listening. Thanks for considering.

KathleenApril 9, 2022

Indeed He IS great! Thank you for sharing that testimony through song.

Robert HalesApril 8, 2022

I use both. Only audio or only the transcript usually ends up with a nap. I listen to the audio and there is enough activity reading the transcript to stay awake. Even with my hearing aid, I miss words but catch them in the transcript.

Rochelle HaleApril 8, 2022

Thank you, thank you. I’m going through my storage now. Even dry tomato powder is in bulging cans. Who knew???!!!

Patricia WintersApril 8, 2022

That was lovely! Thank you!

Patricia WintersApril 8, 2022

Thank you a hundred times for printing the transcript! I never would have been able to sit and listen to the podcast! I gained so much from reading it!

Pat ThomasApril 8, 2022

It’s difficult to stop and write notes on the audio presentation and then start the audio again. The written transcript makes it easier to ponder without losing my place. Please provide the written transcript. You bring in wonderful people with so much to share.

Melinda TalleyApril 8, 2022

I feel that among all His miracles, this may well be the most significant. In my moments of fearing I or those I love may never overcome our weaknesses, knowing that the Savior has the power to change our very natures drives that fear away.

Corey D.April 5, 2022

On one hand a very good and insightful article but a few things that were said left me wondering if it was also a subtle political message ?

Heather SmurthwaiteApril 5, 2022

Maureen, this was so well written! I'm an avid reader of your articles -- impressed not only by the beautiful quality of your writing, but even more by the depth of understanding and insight that they offer. Thank you.

MaryannApril 5, 2022

While it is interesting to consider what our Savior may have looked like on earth, or what he looks like today, the most important factor to me is that he was literally and physically Heavenly Father's Son. Because of this, we really don't know what he looked like. I take comments that he was not attractive with a grain of salt. Beliefs about what is or is not beautiful are subjective, and opinions on beauty change drastically throughout different periods of history and cultures. I appreciate Mariah's comments that she is not trying to convince us of anything, simply giving us some things to think about. I absolutely believe that when we see the Savior we will see that he looks very much like his Father. He will be gloriously beautiful in every sense of the word.

RaLee HallApril 5, 2022

Thank you for this article. After I read it I said, "Wow! This so pertains to our day.

WallyApril 5, 2022

Very wise! Thank you, Jeff.

Toni VanWormerApril 5, 2022

This article is an immediate answer to to my prayers this day. Thank you!

Marilyn MeinzerApril 5, 2022

I love to READ your podcasts each week and often copy parts of the transcripts to save and refer back to - can't do that with audio!! Without transcripts I don't have time to listen to the audio!!

Brent A OlsenApril 5, 2022

Excellent article! Puts a different meaning on the word FEAR! Enjoyed this very much. Thank you!

Robert RieckhoffApril 5, 2022

I must admit that I do appreciate the text copy of the podcast. I can read faster and also take notes and lt allow me to ponder the point longer.

KathleenApril 4, 2022

We too like having the transcripts but have very much enjoyed the recent discussions with guests. Thank you for sharing by both formats and expanding resources.

Gary LawrenceApril 4, 2022

A very good selection of insights and advice from our leaders relating to today's dynamics. When hearing or reading an address, we should remember not only what was said but also analyze why it was said. Yes, difficult times will continue, but magnificent times also await us. Thanks for your good work, Maurine.

Janice GoimaracApril 4, 2022

When we lived in a ward with high turnover, we learned to say "I haven't met you yet," instead of, "Are you new?" That way, one avoids the awkwardness of asking a person who has been in the ward for two years, "Are you new?"

Jeanette WithersApril 4, 2022

My husband was on a co-ed soccer team one year. A woman was accidently kicked by one of the men on the opposing team. I was on the other side of the field and heard her leg bone break that far away. It was a terrible incident for both teams to deal with.

JanetApril 4, 2022

Thank you. My current goal is to cherish the gift of repentance and change something every day. Your article provided some clear understanding and motivation. I really appreciate your insights.

Colleen McDonaldApril 4, 2022

I am hearing impaired and therefore I read much better than I hear! Please go back to giving us a transcript that I can read! I would appreciate that so much!!

HalApril 4, 2022

Thank you for this article. I, too, am perplexed at detractors who defame the Prophet and yet cannot explain how a largely uneducated farm boy could produce such marvelous revelations that are consistent in their narrative and doctrine. They claim Joseph Smith to be merely a man, and so he is. However, his detractors fail to recognize that they and their sources are merely men as well, and far less inspired.

Julie Coulter BellonApril 4, 2022

Thank you so much for your comments everyone! You are so sweet. It's wonderful to meet more book people to chat with! You are my kind of people. *waves*

MimmieApril 4, 2022

I couldn’t agree more with the above comments. I feel the exact same way and would again request that you would reconsider posting a transcript of your Podcasts.

Kathleen KimballApril 3, 2022

Very astute and timely comments and suggestions. Thank you!

Howard HillApril 3, 2022

There are accounts written by Pontius Pilate and others who describe Him as having golden hair and blue eyes. The descriptions can be easily found using an inter net search.

DBNormanApril 3, 2022

Just as Bob Martin related, we indeed need to keep in mind that Jesus said, if you have seen me you have seen the Father. Jesus’s father was not Joseph, so Jesus would have some characteristics inherited from Mary, but equally from God the father, So unless God the father was Jewish, Jesus would indeed be unique among other men of his time, and maybe even have red hair.

DBNApril 3, 2022

Just as Bob Martin related, we indeed need to keep in mind that Jesus said, if you have seen me you have seen the Father. Jesus’s father was not Joseph, so Jesus would have some characteristics inherited from Mary, but equally from God the father, So unless God the father was Jewish, Jesus would indeed be unique among other men of his time, and maybe even have red hair.

LoraApril 3, 2022

I remember Jack Anderson, and I lived on the East Coast. Thanks for this fascinating account of history.

Lisa J NemrowApril 3, 2022

I don't even bother to listen to the podcast since you don't put it in text. I enjoy reading it and contemplating it. The recording goes by too fast and find it difficult to go back to a part that I wanted to make sure I understood it correctly as well as to think more about it. Could you PLEASE go back to printing it out? I love the things you have to share and have learned so much from you.

Carol NApril 2, 2022

The painting of Jesus that speaks to me, is "Prince of Peace" by, Akiane. The first time I saw it, I felt like he was looking into my soul... and it feels that way every time.

ShaliApril 2, 2022

I appreciate the way this advice was given, caring and without judgment. I chose to step away from a situation exactly like this, not because I didn't love him but because I couldn't see myself spending the rest of my life with someone who thought it was ok to not share something so important. I hope whatever decision you make, it will turn out to be the best one for you.

Douglas E NadybalApril 2, 2022

As bad as the "boyfriend" lying is, he is also an adulterer. Assuming the relationship did not devolve into illicit acts, the only eternal consequence in this situation is the state of this mans soul should this behavior go un-repented, he will eventually suffer the judgment outlined in the bible. If this reality is not enough to prompt the victim into dealing with reality, going back to him would then become a willful transgression. He is an adulterer. She should know that the pain in going back into this would be far worse than the first because she could no longer claim ignorance.

DougieApril 1, 2022

Third one of these in a row with no transcript. This podcast is 46 minutes long! Who has that kind of time? I can read the transcript in 10 minutes. What the heck?

Pam PurnellApril 1, 2022

The Historian Josephus gives an account of what the Savior looked like. I am surprised that you did not reference his account.

AnnaApril 1, 2022

Jesus dressed and was groomed like a Roman of the day. Everyone in the Roman empire adopted the Roman look, from the English Isles to Africa, meaning short hair, roman toga and the sandals, along with that roman robe without seam( meaning a circular robe) the roman soldiers at the crucifixion scene were gambling over. These circular robes could hide a dagger, like the one Peter suddenly pulled out to cut off an ear. There have been 1st century christian churches unearthed in northern Africa whose frescoes consistently depict Jesus as a dark haired baby faced very fair skinned man who is slight and somewhat short statured. If this depiction is ball park accurate it would an an HORRIFIC dimension to the pains he endured in Gethsemane and the cross, and could explain why he couldn't carry the cross and had to be nailed to it in the wrist as well as the hand for fear the hand would tear through.

KA MillerApril 1, 2022

His wife deserves to know how deeply her husband has disrespected her so she has all the information she needs to know regarding how to proceed in her life. No one deserves to have a lie of this magnitude withheld from them.

Paul HApril 1, 2022

Pardon another comment, but Jesus wouldn't look like a 1st Century Jewish Peasant. His father was not Joseph. Trying to convince others that he should look like Jewish peasants is false doctrine---He was the "only begotten of the Father" and looked so much like him that He stated that whoever had seen him had seen the Father also. It was like Seth and Adam. I've known fathers and sons that looked identical except for their age difference. Art is speculative at best and in this case, likely far from being accurate. Every painting has Him with bare feet or sandals, too, and clothing wrapped around Him like a bed sheet. They had shoes back in Old Testament times and John the Baptists talks about loosing the latchet of the shoes on His feet.

AnnApril 1, 2022

She has been put in a difficult position and surely has many conflicting emotions. The counsel to let the head prevail is wise. She should get as far away from him as possible and cut off all contact. I found myself in a similar situation many years ago when I was single, although not nearly as much time had elapsed. Nothing good can come of continuing in a relationship based on dishonesty. Following Gospel principles will always keep us safe.

Duane BoyceApril 1, 2022

An outstanding interview and a thoughtful and thorough statement. By comparison, various other statements, news reports, and published opinions appear incomplete and shallow. A very valuable contrast.

HalApril 1, 2022

Thank you, thank you, thank you for this interview / article. The media has not been very forthcoming in providing all views concerning this issue and have fueled even more rancor and malevolence by not reporting the full story. Thank you to Rep. Birkeland for her dedication to doing what is right and thanks to the author for conducting the interview in a skillful way that covers every issue.

RobynApril 1, 2022

I couldn't reply better than Barry Hansen who already expressed my thoughts so well. Thanks to all AND Meridian for publishing this.

Mary-Rose McMullinApril 1, 2022

My heart goes out to Rep. Birkeland and her family. Thank you for setting such an example of standing for truth despite persecution. Thank you!

Mariah (author)April 1, 2022

@Marlund, that is a good point about them being transplants in Nazareth. As far as I know though, Mary was born in Nazareth and they returned to Bethlehem because Joseph's family was from there, not necessarily Mary's. (I might be mistaken on that). The two places are only 19 miles apart so it's interesting to wonder how much contrast or distinction that would create in the development of physical characteristics.

MicheleApril 1, 2022

Thank you Geoff for your comments to this writer. Events softening my heart and leading up to my baptism years ago were similar. Although I knew he was separated, I equated separation with available. I didn't have the gospel standards yet. I found out he'd gone back to her while still having me in his life. It's been validating to read this; but mostly I want to echo your advice and pray this person is able to access it and follow the Spirit. It's a painful experience no matter what she chooses, but the Spirit will never lead us astray.

Haze KompelienApril 1, 2022

What percentage of your audience are upset at the lack of transcripts? I fear you are loosing a bunch of us/ I am very sad and really do miss your insights. No, I won't listen to the podcasts instead, as I am NOT an auditory learner.

RozyApril 1, 2022

Of course Jesus would look different after resurrection with a perfected body! Except for being way too old, I like the look and manner of the Jesus in The Chosen. We do tend to forget that He was a young man, much like we forget that Joseph Smith was also a very young man.

Paul HApril 1, 2022

Brother Coltrin's comments indicate if he "looked like His Father" as the New Testament says, he would have blue eyes. Only one artist has ever depicted Him thusly and it was in a painting in a Church magazine. Based upon that, the popular paintings of Him used throughout the Church are less than accurate, not to mention all those used by others with halo's etc surrounding His person. If you really want to know get the information from the Prophets and Apostles who have seen Him; no one ever seems to want to check with them. They are "eyewitnesses of His majesty." The last point, is that it doesn't really matter exactly what He looks like for us to embrace His gospel and follow His commandments.

Paul HemingwayApril 1, 2022

I was in Promised Valley with him. I was picked to sing the short "This is the Place" solo. Right after the show was over, Pat Davis picked me to play Rolph in The Sound of Music. Broadway. Then I have been in over a dozen musicals across the country. Yesterday at my credit union. I met a girl who Robert & his wife babysat. He gave her singing lessons as a small girl. She since gas been in many musicals on and off broadway. I wish I had gotten the girls name.

Ted CrowtherApril 1, 2022

I think the reason Joseph Smith described Jesus as with fiery eyes and white hair is: Have you ever taken a picture of a face with the sun shining into the camera. the whole picture is changed like a white out. Everything is so bright that the face has white hair and fiery eyes. You can not tell the color of His eyes and his hair is white as the light is so blinding. The Savior always appears in brightness like that.

Marlund HaleApril 1, 2022

To me it seems odd that we would compare Jesus to a Galilean when Joseph and Mary had to return to Bethlehem in Judea (area of their birth and ancestry?) to pay their Roman taxes and where Jesus was born. He would certainly have been influenced by speech and mannerisms in the area he grew up in, but his physical appearance would seen to have been determined more by his parentage, including being the son of a celestial father.

Claudia Henderson SmithApril 1, 2022

Mariah, I loved your article. I had read that Jesus wasn't "comely," but I think the sheherd/actor in your Dad's picture is! So, I hope Jesus does look like him. Of course, not everyone is beautiful on the outside. It's what's on the inside that counts, right?

DBNApril 1, 2022

I was told a story about Elder Spencer W Kimball staying with a family as he was assigned to conduct a stake conference. While in that home a young girl with red hair climbed up on his lap. She asked him "Have you seen Jesus?" He answered "Yes I have." She asked "What does he look like?" He answered, "He has hair a lot like yours." This of course was shared many times before it was told to me. Perhaps someone who reads this knows first hand. I have four children with red hair and like to think of Jesus with reddish hair but I suppose it goes against what this article implicates. Perhaps Elder Kimball was referring to her curls and not the color. Were their any people of that time and place that had reddish hair?

Ann PriceApril 1, 2022

These are the same people who save turtle eggs, beached whales, elephants, homeless pets, stately trees. Where is the heart when it comes to a human life? Why is there not an ammendment to take the live baby to a hospital for nourishment and offered up for adoption?

Robert StarlingApril 1, 2022

As you say, we don't have to know what our Savior looked like physically in mortality to recognize him when he comes in glory. But the question does present a challenge for artists and filmmakers. I like the person cast as Jesus in "The Chosen", because he is probably the closest anyone has come to portraying him as he was then. When I was doing research on the screenplay for the film "In Search of Historic Jesus", I studied the Shroud of Turin, which many believe shows the image of the face of Christ, singed into the surface fibers of the linen cloth that covered his body, by a brief flash of light or energy that may have accompanied the resurrection. That process is known as "flash photolysis". According to forensic scientists, the image on the shroud portrays the face of a Sephardic Jew who was about 5'11", weighing about 175 lbs. There are marks on the face consistent with being beaten and wearing a crown of thorns. Some of the specific marks are included in artistic representations going back to the 6th century AD as seen in many Byzantine paintings. This may be faith-affirming to some, if the singeing effect that put the image on the cloth was indeed caused by some sort of burst of light or energy, since that sort of thing does not normally happen to a dead body.

Boanerges RubalcavaApril 1, 2022

I believe that the Jesus or any other person saw in these latter days, is different than the one when he was on earth in Palestine, since the former was a resurrected being.

Bob MartinApril 1, 2022

I am now 77 years old and I distinctly remember being called into my 3 year old's bedroom, Daddy,she said solemnly, Jesus came to see me last night and He sat on my bed and talked to me.Thinking that she had a dream I said. Emily, that is wonderful. What did Jesus look like? I expected a description not unlike those in Primary but she astounded me with her reply. Daddy, He looks like His Father. I was lost for words. Out of the mouths of babes.

Barry HansenApril 1, 2022

Thank you to the author for providing the details and background behind this legislation. And thank you to Rep. Birkeland for her careful, thoughtful research and courageous efforts over two years to stand up for Utah’s girls while still respecting the rights of transgender athletes to be involved in activities in a way that doesn’t harm girls.

MaryannMarch 31, 2022

When you stated that "the new barbarians currently control the executive branch of government," you said it all. Trampling on legal immigration laws that help to protect American citizens from deadly drugs coming across the border (as well as convicted barbaric felons), supporting millions of brutal abortions, encouraging and normalizing the mutilation of our bodies and erasing natural gender, blurring and confusing the roles of fathers and mothers, husbands and wives--These are just a few of the "barbaric" practices of our day, many of which are supported and promoted by some government officials. But the most barbaric evil of all is the brainwashing of our children--filling their minds with misinformation and enlisting them in "causes" that they are not ready to shoulder. Instead of letting them be children, we heap burdens upon their backs to promote our own personal, politically correct or philosophical agendas. Hitler did this with the young in Germany. Evidently, we haven't learned our lesson.

MaryannMarch 31, 2022

If we want to focus a spotlight on the corruption in government, there is so much of it going on in the here and now. We can't do anything about what Nixon and his cohorts did 50 years ago, but we can speak out about the corruption in our government officials today, and choose candidates, and uphold laws, that will help to cleanse our nation of these current evils. I am much more concerned about the laws and political party that support millions of abortions in our nation, and also President Biden's and Hillary Clinton's evil actions TODAY, than I am about what Nixon did 50 years ago.

MaryannMarch 31, 2022

I really love your suggestions of using humor and taking the opportunity to laugh and reach out with fun conversation. Joni, you are not on a "pretend mission." It is very real, and I appreciate you sharing it so that we can use your examples to inspire us to do likewise.

Jo Ann OkelberryMarch 31, 2022

I love "godly becomings." Thank you for this lively and encouraging article.

Janie BrayMarch 31, 2022

So agree with what you have said. I had a talk with a friend the other day about not serving a mission. We talked about how we were serving missions as visiting teachers (sorry I’m still old school) , in our ward callings, helping the missionaries when we could (not just in their dinners) , and when we see opportunities to help someone (families, friends and others).

CarolMarch 31, 2022

I love your use of humor to break the ice with people - most people love laugh and feel more connected instantly. I have been on the secret mission of greeting strangers. I've been serving in a YSA ward for almost 3 years and am now back in my home ward so most everyone looks like a new person to me so I get to introduce myself a lot!

Rochelle HaleMarch 31, 2022

Though I teach Gospel Doctrine, it is often difficult for me to engage in one-on-one conversations. A few years ago, however, I had one of the best missionary moments because I listened to the little angel on my shoulder reminding me that I promised to greet new people. My new friends turned out to be a raised-in-the-church-as-a child-only sister and her non-member husband. Soon they were both active and he was baptized, and within a year they brought other relatives into the gospel. We also help a handicapped sister who lives down the street. "Oh, no, please don't assign her to me just because she's my neighbor," were my first anxious thoughts, but she has become a dear friend and a delight to serve.

Dave HansenMarch 31, 2022

Thanx for sharing such a good idea.......I REALLY like that kind of thinking, Joni!!! :-)

Erik HansenMarch 30, 2022

I'm so glad the Spirit led him to the truth and gave him fervor enough to push forward against the power hungry in our government. The Lord hedged up the way for his enemies. I'm glad for his family. So many scriptures reflect the sincerity of The Lord to protect his people from death by their enemies. I'm sure these things happen today, and I'm not surprised there is such corruption in the US government though I'm saddened. The Lord continues in helping good people overcome their awful circumstances and protect them from death by their enemies, until they have finished their work - although we may not have awful things removed entirely. (What will happen to the people of the USA if we don't pull down the super-rich, proud and power hungry?)

vickieMarch 28, 2022

wow, i never knew that president nixon was involved in so many bad things. i lauded him later for coming back and helping out with china. he didnt give up. i had no idea that he was that scheming.

James RawsonMarch 27, 2022

Never thought I’d see the day that the Lord’s university would require such an office! I don’t know whether I should shout for joy, weep or be angry at such a need already found in state run schools! Sign of the times!

James RawsonMarch 27, 2022

Touched my heart deeply! Thank you!

thou tranMarch 27, 2022

hi have authentic piece 1ichby 1.5ich gold plate I believer from king Daris. is it worth anything?

TMMarch 27, 2022

It sounds cliche, but it is possible that the pattern of infatuations that has plagued his marriage speaks to a deeper pattern of coping formed when young because of not getting the quality and quantity of love he needed from his own mother. Was his mother emotionally distant? Was she known as a mean mom? Did he get punished a lot? Was there any abuse? Did she have her own mental health issues she struggled with? One way to assess this could be to see when the pattern of infatuations started. My hunch is it began well before he was married.

Rae GreenstreetMarch 26, 2022

To Arthur Cornett, to "fold" the whipped eggs "until fluffy" means to stir or mix them into the batter slowly or gently.

KathleenMarch 26, 2022

Heart warming. You'll have the rest of your lives to remember this and build upon the experience. May the Lord bless and keep you.

T. DorenboschMarch 26, 2022

For those who wonder why there is no transcript, this is what Scot answered me: Dear Thijs, First of all: Thanks for the service you've been doing for that group of Dutch members. We've done some interviews without pre-written scripts to accommodate our upcoming travel schedule of leading tours in the Middle East and Europe. We're going to try to use some Ai programs (starting tomorrow) to see if we can get a reasonable script from the audio. If we can do it, we will publish it as soon as possible. Blessings, Scot.

tfMarch 25, 2022

From what this man has written, i don't think he is actually temple worthy. But it sounds like this type of thing has happened several times in his life. I wish a talk by Carlfred Broderick entitled "It came out of the Blue, Like a Scheduled Airline" that was available on tape, could be re-issued on CD. It could help in this type of situation.

SarahMarch 25, 2022

You hired her/she got a job with you less than a year ago. Because of covid you don't work in an office, but at home but you can travel with her? Correct? You talk on the phone a lot when you aren't travelling, and each night and on weekends your wife hides in her room... Are you in seperated rooms? All your married life you have been infatuated with someone... But not your wife. You travel a lot, so are hardly there and when you are, your wife is hiding!? Your wife is depressed because of the above, which started when you put a ring on it. If you love your wife, start kissing her! Invite her out of the room.. To travel with you, if she can a few times a month. At 22yrs married your kids can maybe fend for themselves a few nights. If your wife works, then do things on the weekends with her. Stop this hiding cycle, by helping her trust you and your thoughts. Change your behaviour, and then help her change to trust and love you. If you are not bothered, then let her go, so she can get well and thrive. This is not a way to exist.

Travus AllenMarch 25, 2022

I enjoy all of your articles. I read them all. I really really enjoyed this one. Very good insight and counsel. Thanks again.

BKMarch 25, 2022

Hopefully a transcript WILL be available for future podcasts. I count on them!

LoraMarch 23, 2022

Did something happen to the person who transcribes your podcasts? I hope that you will be able to get another transcriber soon. I miss the written transcripts!

Todd MorrisMarch 23, 2022

nah....much quicker to read. What happened?

Arthur CornettMarch 23, 2022

Excuse my ignorance, I don’t mean to “fritter” away anyone’s time. In step 4 of the 2nd recipe, what does it mean to “fold” the egg whites into the batter?

Annette BellMarch 23, 2022

Thank you for this article. I am a Master Gardener assigned to volunteer at the Pioneer Herb Garden here at our learning garden in Beaverton, Oregon. I have been studying pioneer ways of growing, obtaining and fixing food. It's great to have this insight into Emma's role in this huge undertaking.

Janice HiestandMarch 23, 2022

I can' t underline, write comments, scribble thoughts in the margins of a podcast. Is there a reason for this, if so why?

Sherry EthridgeMarch 23, 2022

The oats are not listed in the instructions. Are they added with the vanilla?

SusanMarch 23, 2022

I, too, like to read the transcript. I listen to the podcast, then read the words. Please put the written word back to be enjoyed.

Dave MorganMarch 23, 2022

Helaman 8:18 fits in nicely to your article, any thoughts on that.

LindaMarch 23, 2022

Where is the transcript for this week?

Steve LombardMarch 23, 2022

Every week my wife and I read the transcript to help us understand the lesson and it helps very much. Why no transcript this time? Has this site been hacked?

AllanMarch 23, 2022

Thank you for sharing these stories. Truly inspiring. Just what I needed to hear today.

KathleenMarch 23, 2022

Such truth in these words and beautiful music.

MaureenMarch 22, 2022

Yes, please bring back the transcript, for those of us who learn visually (the vast majority, BTW).

AlexMarch 22, 2022

Please add transcript. Thank you.

JoyceMarch 22, 2022

good article, but what about divorced parents? how does a mother help her child learn about love between a mother and father if it doesn't exist?

LibertyMarch 22, 2022

Beautifully written

Jayne JohnsonMarch 22, 2022

Thank You Kathy. As I read your article, I was impressed with the thought that a person doesn't need to travel far away to do what you did on your assignments with your husband. We each can receive that inspiration right where we are. Thank you for the reminder that we are the Lord's hands and voice. God bless you!

Patricia WintersMarch 22, 2022

In my noisy home, I seldom can find a quiet time to listen to podcasts. If I can read the transcripts, I can understand and feel the message being sent. Please make transcripts available for all your podcasts.

Charmaine McKaskleMarch 22, 2022

I prefer to read the podcast. I hope you will make it available again.

Kimberlee RottweilerMarch 22, 2022

I’d rather read the transcript than listen as well

B. DolbergMarch 22, 2022

Yes, PLEASE add the transcript. We read them together every week and discuss them as we go along.

vickieMarch 22, 2022

my son went to west point and grad in 1995. he later worked there and i went to baby sit my grandkids. what a wonderful place. so historic. i loved west point. i took my gkids to church and there wasnt a dedicated chapel then. i am so glad that there is one now and its a long time coming. praise the Lord and Amen...

Marilynne LinfordMarch 21, 2022

I wrote a book on the Pearl of Great Price that I have not punished. I send it in manuscript form to anyone who asks. If you feel comfortable, send me your email address through columnists on the Meridian cite.

T. DorenboschMarch 20, 2022

I miss the transcript of this lesson. Every week I translate the transcript for friends here in Holland who do not speak English to understand. Please help!!

Cristy NewcombMarch 20, 2022

I'd rather read then listen. Why can’t I get to written word like every other week?

Deborah BatesMarch 20, 2022

We have Ukrainian friends and some of them have parents still in Kyiv. We have been to Ukraine and spent a week in Kyiv. . We are heartsick about what is happening.

Corey D.March 20, 2022

When the George A Whalen Veterans Home was first opened I was called to be the branch president, I tried to be more than just their church leader, I also wanted the residents/veterans to know I was their friend. I would try to visit at least once a week other than Sunday with one of my counselors and I would go often by myself to visit and sometimes with my wife, heard lots of interesting stories, not just about war but also about life, many times inspirational, sometimes humorous. One of those inspirational stories shared with me was Brother Jay Bachman a retired Air Force Colonel, wonderful, humble, spiritual man, who I got the impression from had not always been active in the church. He was serving in Vietnam when Elder Spencer W. Kimball came to visit and I think this may have been when Brother Bachman may not have been fully active in the church. Anyway and I don't remember all the details ( my one regret about my service at the Veteran's Home is not keeping a journal of stories and experiences), Brother Bachman said that after meeting with the LDS servicemen and what few members there were, Elder Kimball asked if there was some place they could go where there might be some privacy, they ended up on the rooftop of a building where Elder Kimball proceeded to dedicate the land of Vietnam to the preaching of the gospel. Brother Bachman said it was an amazing experience and he was honored to be asked to be there, if I remember what he told me there was just maybe 4 or 5 people there. If I remember correctly what I've read over the years I'm pretty sure Vietnam and the other southeastern Asian countries have been dedicated since then but the 1st time would have been during the Vietnam War by Elder Spencer W. Kimball.

Renn CrumpMarch 19, 2022

I would love to see your entire list of favorite topics in the Pearl of Great Price. I completely agree that the PofGP is not emphasized nearly enough in our gospel study. Thank you for this article.

Tanya NeiderMarch 19, 2022

Abby Christensen, Thank you for the simple outline and printable sheets!

KathleenMarch 18, 2022


CarolMarch 18, 2022

For some of the older readers. I have been giving my granddaughters a "Heritages Box" containing a few of my special items from our home that I want to pass on to them now not after my death. I write a letter letting them know where the item came from, why it is important to me and a family group sheet showing where they fit in the line These have been so very special for me to prepare.

Robert StarlingMarch 18, 2022

Thanks for this article. I would love to read the rest of it. Will the ending be published? I had never heard of the Ukrainian holocaust. Many tears and prayers for those brave and suffering people.

MaryannMarch 18, 2022

My husband served a mission to Ireland in the late 1960s when the conflicts and violence taking place there were extremely serious. When Londonderry was burning, he was assigned to get the missionaries out of the city. Preaching the gospel there was like walking uphill through mollassis. The people were warned by religious leaders to avoid the "Mormon Missionaries." It would have been easy to feel that very little progress was being made. However, when we visited the country many years later together, we witnessed the growth of the church there, and the wonderful changes that had taken place. One of the areas we visited had a new chapel and the people were thrilled. It was very humble--nothing like the buildings we have in the U.S., but they were so very grateful. It was a lesson to remember that where seeds of the gospel are sowed, growth takes place.

Peter CrosbyMarch 17, 2022

This is disgusting, how can this be allowed!

BarbaraMarch 15, 2022

I received my patriarchal blessing when I was 12. There was one paragraph that just did not make sense--until I was divorced and remarried.

Mary Ann KershisnikMarch 15, 2022

Thank you, Sister Linford! This article is beautiful and inspiring!!!!!

LewisMarch 15, 2022

I find your example of love and openness more than inspiring. I think of Victor Hugo's Les Miserables, where the pastor took Jean Valjean into his home, and showed incredible love and compassion even after the theft of his silver. Yes, there are risks with bringing people into your home. Yes, some people will take advantage of you. Yes, there will be experiences that will not be positive. But yes, yes and yes again, we are commanded to love, not judge. The Savior opened his arms to all, even those that reviled, abused and crucified him. We don't all have to bring strangers into our home. I don't think that is the point of your story. But I think the lesson you are teaching is that we all can do something to live the law of the fast as Isaiah has explained it so beautifully by reaching out to help our brothers and sisters here on the earth. I am so grateful for your gift of telling compelling stories that can bring us closer to Heavenly Father.

Myrna LiddellMarch 15, 2022

Thank you for this insightful glimpse. Thank you for your efforts and Thanks be to God for the other incredible volunteers both the named and un-named.

Sharen BerryMarch 15, 2022

My husband and I have been married 32 years. We are so much more now then we could have been if we stayed in our first marriages.

Becky L RoseMarch 15, 2022

My patriarchal blessing mentions before leaving I talked with my heavenly mother and she reminded me to come back and tell her how I gained my testimony.

Jim WinebrennerMarch 14, 2022

Thank you so much for an honest and thus naturally disgusted response to the abhorrent changes that are being pushed on so many of the states, and certainly the whole country at the federal level. I'm happy on every (albeit too rare) occasion that I find an article on one of the Church news Web sites that actually demonstrates clarity of mind. Thank you!!

Linda MecklerMarch 14, 2022

No No No No No. This baby after birth is a individual person.

KCMarch 14, 2022

If statistics hold true, at least 10% or more of those holding signs up offering a place to stay were human traffickers who prey upon refugees. I wish there were a way to keep tabs on those who accept the kindness of strangers. Some way to vouch for the host and track the guest. If someone could come up with a solution like that, it not only would be a deterrent for traffickers but help keep refugees on their toes, out of harms way, or provide an avenue of rescue from bad situations. Unfortunately the fog of war makes that difficult but if even one life were saved from that horror, it would be worth it. Maybe those who haven't found their niche in the humanitarian realm might be "watchers", angels on earth taking notes and checking in.

JuliannMarch 14, 2022

My husband and I took in a woman and her four children, who had been living in their Suburban, when my husband managed a Bishops Storehouse. We arranged missionary lessons, found her an apartment and the Stake members furnished the apartment, paid her utilities and found her employment. She lied, stole, was kicked out of the apartment and within a short time was back living in the Suburban. Her son beat up my daughter and the mother taught my 10 year old daughter to smoke. We learned to follow Gods plan for taking care of the poor and needy. Not venturing out on our own. Over the years we did, through a government program, open our home to 10 youth addicts and unwed mothers. Those experiences were mostly positive. You put forth a worthy principle, but it needs to be entered into with a great deal of prayer, preparation and caution.

SherriMarch 14, 2022

Wow, Becky! I’m truly amazed at all you have done in your lives to take in poor and weary travelers. Thank you for your article and challenge to invite others into our homes.

Dave HansenMarch 14, 2022

WOW! These folks are not just Saints......they are ANGELS!!! God bless them for their love of others in need.

MickeyMarch 12, 2022

Nothing is going to change here until the husband stops reacting to the ex wife and daughter’s manipulations. I don’t agree that something is better than nothing here. Their behavior is abusive and he doesn’t have an obligation to tolerate it. If dad stops reacting and allows daughter to fully experience mom’s behavior, perhaps something would change.

HelenCMarch 11, 2022

My husband and I have been married almost 28 years, now, and my ex-husband still believes her is the one who broke up the marriage. However, over time he and our children have accepted that we are happy together. Each of my children has come to me and expressed past frustration along with present acknowledgement that he is a good man and I am happy. While it is easy to fall into the trap of needing validation for ourselves and our choices, the truth is we owe our happiness to no-one but ourselves. As the late psychologist Wayne Dyer put it, “Your opinion of me is none of my business”.

Martha ScottMarch 11, 2022


tfMarch 11, 2022

Geoff: I'm surprised that you didn't mention that the ex-wife is obviously mentally ill. The troubles described seem to be a clear indication of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, if I am not mistaken.

ShawnyMarch 9, 2022

Thank you, Brother Peterson, for this wonderful article. Truly the closeness we feel to God here on earth is based on the reality of His ability to feel close to us. We feel His love and experience it personally in so many precious and sacred ways. We truly have a FATHER in Heaven, and we are truly bound in love to His Son.

Kay RookhuyzenMarch 9, 2022

This was just a lovely read that brought tears to my eyes. Thanks for sharing!

Nerita PetersonMarch 9, 2022

Lovely story.... Eternal life is too good not to be true!

Carol AnnMarch 9, 2022

These wise words are more pertinent today than ever.

Karell BinghamMarch 9, 2022

It is the first time I have read your amazing and touching testimony! Thank you for your deep insights!

HelenCMarch 9, 2022

Two of my five children have preceded me Home. I render feeling (and still feel) that greeting the Savior will be wonderful, but being hugged by George, and now also by Larissa, will be Heavenly, indeed.

HelenCMarch 9, 2022

Spot on! And yet so many non-Latter Day Saint Christians insist on “solar scriptura”, claiming that the only truth we can abide by is in the written word presented to us in the Bible as it now stands. If they cannot accept God has feelings, how accurate can their philosophy be?

RussianwolfeMarch 9, 2022

With this article, the claim that is often made against the LDS, is shown to be completely false. Our doctrine of an embodied God is truly Biblical while the critics claims that God does not have a body is revealed for the Greek philosophical contortions that I have always thought they were. Are there any books or articles that discuss this contrast in more detail?

LoraMarch 9, 2022

When I was a teenager in the 1970's, "sex-change operation" meant that the lower half of the body was surgically altered to match the chosen sex. A person making the transition was required to undergo a year of therapy to prepare for the change. Now it appears that an individual only has to "identify" as the opposite sex, take some hormones, change the hair and clothing style, and we're all supposed to believe that now he is a woman and she is a man. And yet, if you ask the question as Matt Walsh recently did, "What is a woman?" none of the transactivists can answer. In our open-mindedness, women are losing their very definition. The puberty blockers that they use on children are the same drugs used in chemical castration of sex offenders. Apparently, those drugs are "cruel and unusual punishment" for criminals, but perfectly acceptable for minors with a clear psychological problem. If "Full Disclosure" was practiced, trans individuals would be required to read the Trans Regret website to hear the stories of people who regret making the transition. Transition can render the person sterilized, with irreversible damage. If men and women are so equal, why is it that we never hear about transmen trying to get into men's sports? A transwoman in boxing can nearly kill the biological female opponent. Transwomen swimmers and runners leave biological women way behind. When it comes to sports, people with XY chromosomes are just plain better, stronger, with more upper body strength and better hips and knees for forward propulsion. While I have compassion for people who feel like strangers in their own bodies, I am concerned that they will find that the problem doesn't go away with transitioning to the opposite sex. For transwomen who want to occupy the women's locker room, I challenge them to really be "one of the girls" and have the male genitalia removed. Why is it that a man exposing himself in public is a crime, but if he identifies as a woman, it's acceptable in a women's locker room? Or in a women's prison? Is it acceptable for women to go to prison with biological men? It's a good thing that I am retired, because these sentiments of mine would get me fired from my employment. None of this is good for women.

Sage GallagherMarch 9, 2022

Great article, Dan. Thank you. What a difference to our human hearts it makes to see God as a caring father! The choice of turning to an emotionless entity versus looking to a loving Father seems pretty clear.

Diane PetersonMarch 9, 2022

Beautiful! How grateful I am for our God of feelings, emotions, and love. Brother Peterson, your work is always brilliant and inspiring. Please continue to share your incredible insights!

Ed RehderMarch 8, 2022

Thank you for this article. I'm a 70 year old that barely missed being drafted into service for the Vietnam war. Something didn't seem right to us in those days but many of my friends had to go. Now to hear these details about that war as well as the others things start to make sense, and am not surprised somehow. Thank goodness for the Book of Mormon and it's warnings to us. Thanks again for your work on this.

JoeMarch 8, 2022

Thank you for your clear vision. There are many who will not agree with this. So many want to draw a line between Russia and Ukraine/US when the "sides", the line should be drawn, between people and government. The people of Russia are not our enemy except for the single feature, they have allowed their tyrannical government to exist and to continue. But are we not guilty of the same? Upon serious introspection of the genocide delivered at the hands of our own government a rational person must recognize this truth. The best thing we could do would be to focus on cleaning our own house. It is our greatest responsibility.

BevMarch 8, 2022

We are so devastated to see the Leaders f many countries being unable to see that Putin will never stop and the war is already declared war n all of us eventually!

SandraMarch 8, 2022

Thank you for the thought provoking and pertinent information.

Paula GermondMarch 8, 2022

I'm not sure how you characterize "mid-singles" but that status surely is a faith-building position and can be a sweet communion with our Lord. Thus we are loved and esteemed beyond measure BUT. due to the focus on the ideal family structure within the church, I think there is an unavoidable feeling of "otherness." When we enter the church family, no matter how much we are loved, if we are placed in the guest room instead of the heart of the home, will it ever feel like a main course Instead of left overs? I think perhaps it seems more like a side dish! My only solution is to become and remain as close to the Lord as possible on a personal level.- to love and serve those around you from your unique life. Not everyone is called to wear the mantle of singlehood so trust the Lord to have your best interest at heart while He is trusting you to carry that mantle for whatever His unseen purposes are can be pure dessert!. Blessings to each..

Linda AyreMarch 8, 2022

I am very grateful for this article which articulates and validates concerns that have been growing in me for decades. It is disheartening that so many people will not even question the narrative being blasted at us from every mainstream news source. Thank you, Brother Lindsay. I always appreciate your articles.

DougMarch 8, 2022

Thanks! Just found this. It should probably be noted that the overwhelming majority of the plates were actually written by Moroni--if you count the sealed portion (Ether 5:1). Just an interesting fact that he did more writing than any of the other authors, including his father before him.

LBMarch 8, 2022

You are about to become an "untrusted source". Thank you for stating clearly some of the vital problems Americans and Church members face. We have been lied to and betrayed by those we trust.

Debra WellingMarch 8, 2022

AMEN to both previous comments!

ElizabethMarch 8, 2022

Heroic work, Millers, Sheltons, Max and Masha. What a Providential sequence of connections! Thanks to Lisa Badger and Meridian Magazine for getting the word out with such specific info. about we can help. Bravo!

William R ToftMarch 8, 2022

Excellent article. When he mentioned his mistrust of medical authority one name came to my mind, Anthony Fauci.

NinaMarch 8, 2022

Thank you so much for your article. I can relate to so many of your experiences. I agree with every issue of your article. My parents lived in eastern Europe during WWII. Experiences that they shared with me taught me to always ask questions. Things are far more complicated then what we are told in the "one liner" headline. We should never stop asking questions.

SandraMarch 8, 2022

Wow! I’ve learned so much. Thank you

Geoff BiddulphMarch 8, 2022

Jeff, great post. We need more calls for peace at this time when so many people seem to be anxious for war. Will we not heed the warnings of the Book of Mormon? We truly seem to be a war-like people after all.

A. BinghamMarch 8, 2022

Weighing in from many government and private sectors, and from different countries, insiders are crying out that the US, as well as global governing bodies, are NOT trying high-level diplomacy to end the armed conflict in Ukraine. Those of us with foreign diplomatic experience see only too well, there is a complete dearth of committed and competent statesmen and women in the public eye. This is looking more and more like what we just went through, deception and betrayal, with so much damage. Perhaps behind the scenes, but in the public's eye, it has been a shameful spectacle. Complete silence from our own state department. Where are they?

Ken and Lynne HeinholdMarch 7, 2022

Our Granddaughter-in-law is Inna Timm, and she is from Ukraine and lives in SLC with her husband Jake Timm. This is a tense time for her and all of our family as we are fasting, praying, and hoping for the safe journey of her sister and family who are at this time traveling from Poltava, Ukraine to Poland. They are very frightened, but hopeful of starting a new life in SLC, Utah, USA. So, we join with all of you in prayer for the safety and welfare of these many good people in Ukraine.

Vickie SmithMarch 7, 2022

Fun things to put on my reading list! I love clean historical romance! But of course I love so many kinds of books... basically I'm addicted!

Amanda PurnellMarch 7, 2022

Thanks for this article! Super helpful! My family will be rotating our kits twice yearly, during General Conference weekends! I heard that a friend's family does this successfully and wanted to share the idea.

Heather B. MooreMarch 7, 2022

Thanks for reviewing! I'm excited for future reviews as well :-)

Harold RustMarch 7, 2022

Oh that we could all join in their worship service and show them personally our respect for their efforts to remain free and our willingness to help support them in whatever way we can best do.

Pania HeimuliMarch 7, 2022

Absolutely beautiful!

Jean GenteroneMarch 7, 2022

When there is no peace on earth...... there will always be peace in Christ .

JodiMarch 7, 2022

I’m looking forward to reading both of these books! Good reviews!

K R HofhiensMarch 7, 2022

Hello Julie, I enjoyed your review and the podcast too. I wrote a book series for kids about the Mound Builders of Ohio being a part of the Book of Mormon people. It isn't a time travel book like Chris Heimerdinger wrote. The story lines only touch through the artifacts found in the kids' backyard. If you are ever interested, I would love to do a pod cast with you. Sincerely, K R Hofhiens

Jim WinebrennerMarch 7, 2022

I certainly agree with John R Carpenter's comment. I'd also like to pose a question: Are you sure the attack was unprovoked? Are you really sure about that? (That's one question, just repeated for emphasis.)

DonnaMarch 7, 2022

Beautiful and heart rending. We are praying for you, our dear brothers and sisters across the world. Never fear.

Jim WinebrennerMarch 7, 2022

Combine the content if this article, which starts off extremely well even though the ending tries to take away much of the real power, combine this content with the scriptures that talk about faith, and you'll begin to see the real meaning and application of true faith, and its real power.

MaryMarch 7, 2022

I am so excited to add these to my TBR list! I love hearing about good recommendations, and look forward to more that Julie has to offer.

Andrew SilskiMarch 7, 2022

It's great to pray for our brothers and sisters, but what are we going to DO for them? I've signed up online to sponsor a family, but that might take months. Is the Church or an LDS-affiliated NGO doing something to facilitate placement of these families in other LDS homes and families?

Gisele MarsanMarch 7, 2022

Thank you so much for writing about this legend. The story really touched my heart. I have often wondered if other countries had similar experiences after Christ's crucifixion. Very interesting

MandJMarch 7, 2022

Video and message brought tears to my eyes. Ukraine has been in our thoughts and prayers daily. We watch everything coming in on the news and feel heartbreak for them as they go through this, it is all so shocking. We pray for peace for them, their country and leaders and know the Lord is aware of this miserable and terrible trial and especially pray it will end.

John R CarpenterMarch 7, 2022

Condoleezza Rice is an amazing person. If she had run for President, I would have voted for her. She however saw the rat's nest in the Washington swamp and wisely avoided that mess. Now she teaches and educates hearts and minds. Her talents and impact on others contine to grow and influence others positively.

Richard D LoosliMarch 7, 2022

I am sure there are countless prayers for this country. I pray that this unprovoked attack will soon be over and peace will prevail.

HalMarch 7, 2022

Thank you for this article. I have always been a fan of both Sister Baker and Condoleezza Rice. As a side note, I wish Condi Rice would run for president. She is an amazing woman.

Leslie NighMarch 7, 2022

I did fast for the Ukrainian saints yesterday. I know that our bishop did as well, as he spoke of it in his testimony. May God bless and keep us all in His capable hands.

Jesse WilsonMarch 7, 2022

Just beautiful!

ShaunaMarch 7, 2022

Thanks for sharing this. It made me cry. My heart and prayers are absolutely with you and it was a privilege to fast on your behalf yesterday. God bless the Ukraine and the world. I know the Lord sees you and is working behind the scenes

Miriam CottamMarch 7, 2022

Just to clarify, this video is of the BYU Singers, the BYU Slavic Choir, and Ukrainian RM's (my son is in this group). They are singing in Ukrainian to show love and support for Ukraine but are not Ukrainian refugees in Germany.

MGBrooksMarch 7, 2022

That is the combined BYU choirs singing in Provo Utah as a tribute to the Ukrainian Saints. :-)

A.L. CastroMarch 7, 2022

This beautiful video is members of the BYU choirs and “other friends of Ukraine” and was filmed in Provo on the BYU campus. I saw it several days ago on the BYU Singers’ Facebook page. I thought you might want to correctly label this video.

SAGEMarch 7, 2022

Last Sunday and yesterday I have fasted and prayed for them. Their song will play in my mind throughout the week. Such a hard time.

MicaMarch 6, 2022

This is really interesting. I liked it! By the way, I found this Facebook page named Honeymoon Mindset Academy which is similar to your content. If you want to know more about this one, please check this link. Thank you.

Corey D.March 6, 2022

I'm sure the family and others know this but it was no accident that no one was home.

Terry ManningMarch 6, 2022

Absolutely love this.

DorisMarch 5, 2022

Thank you for these reminders on finding answers to our concerns! We've all had times we needed help, including prayers. Haven't we had answers to our concerns during Conference. scriptures, or Sacrament meetings. Thank you for your suggestions!

JoshMarch 4, 2022

Exceptionally well written article. To my brothers and sister who suffer this pain I would like to add something. I cannot share the amazing spiritual experience that leads me to saying this but I know it to be true. Children lost, no matter when they are lost, are still a part of your eternal family. I know I will see my mother and grandmother again, both have passed in the past few years, but I also know that with them I will get to see my older sister, who passed in the womb, and learn who she is. I know that while my mortal eyes have not seen her, that her face is familiar to my spirit and I look forward to that reunion greatly. It is a driving force to keep my on the righteous path, amongst many others. You will also get to see the children that you were not permitted to raise in the flesh. No one can say that they understand your pain, except Christ, but I hope you find those that can comfort you while you recover.

KateMarch 4, 2022

I have also experienced miscarriage, and while the spiritual experience that accompanied it is too sacred to share on the internet, I'll give my opinion that when the body that spirit intended to use was not viable, there will be another body provided which will give him or her the opportunity to have a mortal experience. I cannot imagine our Heavenly Parents saying, "whoops, sorry, your body was miscarried (or your parents decided to terminate the pregnancy or your mom was in a car accident and your body died or whatever) so you are out of luck! No further progression for you!" Obviously not. I'm sure that every spirit that is slated to come to earth will come, and in a situation that will give them the experience that they need. Maybe even to you in a future pregnancy.

Melissa MarkhamMarch 4, 2022

I'm so sorry to read about your loss. It was sweet to read about the love you felt already for the baby. It's true that there is no official doctrine on the status of babies who have been miscarried. While I used to see this as frustrating, a friend helped me see it in a different way that has been comforting. I hope you don't mind my sharing this. Perhaps the spirit, itself, has a choice in whether to accept that mortal experience and family heritage or not. Some may opt to try again for a mortal body while some may go on into the eternities. I believe that the parents can receive guidance and know how to understand their individual experiences. My husband and I have felt strongly that at least one of the babies I miscarried has accepted his place in our family and passed into the eternities. We have felt his presence profoundly at times and eagerly await our reunion with him. During other miscarriages, I have tried to connect with the spirit and form a similar bond, only to come up empty. I see these as "chemical pregnancies" not necessarily associated with a spirit. I hope none of that comes off as awkward or contrary to church teaching. The important part to me is that a loving Heavenly Father and Savior Jesus Christ want to comfort us and help us understand. They know where our babies are! As I've been reassured in many blessings, they are intimately concerned with sending spirits to the earth and will help us work through emotions, questions, and anything else the experience brings. May they be with you now.

AnonymousMarch 4, 2022

I know that, if it is His will for you, you can receive personal revelation about this, and know whatever details He sees fit to grant you. It will come in His own time and way for you, but you can come to know His beautiful truths about your own family in this regard. We have seen it happen.

TammyMarch 3, 2022

Thank you so much for your insights. I have loved studying about Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I feel so connected to them, and I feel so grateful for the covenants we have that connect us to God.

MistyMarch 3, 2022

A very beautiful song with a simple but powerful message of our Savior’s love for us! Thank you for sharing their video with us!

Harold RustMarch 3, 2022

A most inspiring and insightful article. Many thanks for the details between those details which I already knew. Other than one mis-typed date (1834 is when he first met Brigham), this is a true keeper for all of us members who need to more fully follow WIlford's example of seeking deeply for the truth.

Lisa SottileMarch 3, 2022

Beautiful!! Thank you for sharing your talents and the wonderful message of this song!

CarrieMarch 2, 2022

Absolutely inspiring. Thank you for this masterpiece.

DougieMarch 2, 2022

Hard to identify with Elder C facing financial “ruin” and getting a “no” when asking Heavenly Father for help. We need specifics. How bad was it? Was he on Church welfare? Had he moved into his parent’s basement? Was he living on his food storage? Did he file bankruptcy? For some people a financial crisis is actually quite mild, but they think it’s really bad. Some of us know and have experienced what “back to the wall” really means. Add Stage 4 cancer for a spouse to the mix, lose your job and health insurance, and then let’s talk.

John R CarpenterMarch 2, 2022

In March of 2005, a twenty pound 105mm artillery shell used for avalanche control hit the backyard of a house in Pleasant Grove, Utah. It missed its target by over 3 miles. A young child who was watching TV excaped harm despite being covered with debris. See story at:

SayshaMarch 2, 2022

The legend also states that "the spirits of long-dead Gaels appeared to the terror-stricken assembly." So fascinating! Thank you for sharing!

LisaMarch 1, 2022

My heart echoes what others have said they felt in reading this beautiful story and testimony. Thank you SO much for lifting our spirits today. Very well written!

Rochelle HaleMarch 1, 2022

I can't tell you how many times I have started journals, then let them gather dust. I love making digital photo albums for our family each year, and these have become our memoirs as well, as I highlight key events, people, etc. I have also found the "memories" section of FamilySearch invaluable to record family stories (not the entire elephant) and some sacred experiences. The privacy settings allow me to determine when and with whom to share.

Debra McCrackenMarch 1, 2022

TY for sharing this "Irish conversion story! I married into the McCrackens in CA, and so love hearing of Irish myths and legends, as I am "adopted Irish!" I love hearing how adults come to the gospel, having been a life-long member. I often wonder if I would have been wise enough to recognize truth.

NiallMarch 1, 2022

❤️ Fantastic Stephen

HalMarch 1, 2022

Wonderful article, thank you!! Even in Utah County our children are being bombarded with propaganda that their confused emotions during adolescence are likely because of gender confusion. Our own daughter was troubled by this for about two years. Fortunately, with maturity, she is realizing her roiling feelings and emotions during adolescence were a normal part of maturation and that mastering her passions during that time rather than giving into them helped her to realize that she really was attracted to young men. She is now embracing her femininity. The difference is night and day - she is now so much happier than she was when she was allowing society to convince her that she was the wrong gender.

Ken HazelbakerMarch 1, 2022

My wife suggested I just take some islands of time and just list bullets - whenever they occurred. It's the capture that is so important. Another time just take one - put the flesh on that skeleton and at another time, do it again. I can take care of order or other details later. She showed me how my smart phone will convert my talking into text!! Wow, it doesn't get any easier than that! (It took some time to learn how to talk slower for better text conversion accuracy - but what a miracle!)

Robert D. BellMarch 1, 2022

I feel this article is RIGHT ON TARGET! Thank you, thank you for your conscientious wording and citing of applicable scripture.

Sally WibleMarch 1, 2022

Why do your life stories have to be woven together? For the past nine years (minus 2 Covid years) I have hosted a group ladies where we write our Life Story in short stories. We read our stories and discuss them - we learn from one another. Many of us are now doing StoryWorth - so our stories will be in book form. Much more interesting to read a short story than one long Life Story. Thank you for your article, very good, need more like it to prompt people to write their Life Stories

HalMarch 1, 2022

This is painful for so many parents. While I think the advice given is good, I think maybe there is too much blame placed on the parents and we need to understand that the child bears some responsibility as well. Despite our continuous efforts to reach out to him, out oldest son cut us out of his life over ten years ago, but his younger brother and his family remain close to us. We also adopted two girls. Again, our oldest daughter rebelled against everything we tried to teach her. Her younger sister, however, embraced our family values and we have a wonderful relationship. Our two children who have distanced themselves from us love to use catch-phrases similar to "Toxic Positivity" to excuse their behavior. I'm sorry, but such phrases smack of "junk" psychology and seem to be a convenient way to avoid taking responsibility for one's own actions. Parents make mistakes, no doubt about that. However, I think we sometimes blame parents (and parents blame themselves) for ALL the problems in a family and forget that the children also play a huge role in family dynamics - especially as they grow to adulthood. The scriptures provide similar examples - Cain and Able, Esau and Jacob, Laman/Lemuel and Sam/Nephi/Jacob/Joseph. I'm sure Adam and Eve, Isaac and Rebekah, Lehi and Sariah loved all their children but some choose to abandon their families and there's not much we can do about it except to continue to love them, pray for them, and keep reaching out to them. Beating ourselves up, however, will never make the relationship better.

Annette MillerMarch 1, 2022

Wallace Goddard you are heaven-sent. You always hit the nail on the head. I love how you love and show us the wY.

MaryannFebruary 28, 2022

I really appreciate Brother Steurer's comments about allowing others to experience what they are really feeling, instead of trying to gloss it over. When someone immediately begins with "positive" preaching in these situations, I feel like the reality of my painful situation is being denied. Instead of trying to "fix" me, I just need to be understood and to feel someone's compassion for my unhappy feelings.

Russ ParkerFebruary 28, 2022

Great Story Stephen, I served my mission in Ireland in the mid 70's and never heard that story. Given what happened there at the death of Christ it would indicate that The Irish are of lost Israel - no surprise to me or any others who served there. I too miss that rainy green Island (I don't miss the cold rainy winters in Dublin though - I shiver just thinking about it)

Kathleen BirdFebruary 28, 2022

Thank you for this beautiful story that resonates in my Irish heart. I've always wondered where are the cultural stories of the earth's upheaval 2000 years ago. Now I know Irelands story because of you.

TimFebruary 28, 2022

Regardless of where one stands religiously or politically, it is unconscionable to allow a child to be killed who is capable of being born alive. What makes such a killing less objectionable just because the child has not drawn a breath?

Jo Ann OkelberryFebruary 28, 2022

This was so delightful, uplifting, and spiritual. Thank you so much for sharing your life and this beautiful story.

Marie H.February 28, 2022

Thank you for sharing your faith journey, conversion and your testimony! I traveled to Ireland in 2019 to meet relatives my mother found in the late 1970s so I love reading anything about that beautiful country.

HmomFebruary 28, 2022

Thank you for sharing such an inspiring conversion story!

Debbi BaileyFebruary 28, 2022

I truly loved your article today. “The One” is so important to the Lord… and He will miraculously micro-manage ways to bring souls to Him. My ancestors are from Ireland and I was touched by your beautiful story of your life growing up and your conversion to the Gospel of Jesus Christ because of your reading the Book of Mormon. Thank you again.

Ovala ToiaivaoFebruary 28, 2022

What an amazing article! Quite a testimony to the truthfulness of the BoM and Joseph Smith's role as a prophet. I mean how on earth could a young and poor farm boy in New York knew such things unless of course it was revealed to him by an angel of the Lord as he claimed? Amazing, truly amazing!!!

Leslie Pearson ReesFebruary 28, 2022

I love that you shared the story of King Conor and the signs of the Savior's death given to the people of Ireland! It truly does give testimony of the fulfillment of prophecies in 1 Nephi 19. A number of years ago when I published my book on the "Lost" tribes of Israel, I included that account because it touched me deeply. Thanks for sharing your story!

RosieBFebruary 28, 2022

Thank you for this thoughtful article. My sister has been having a horrible time dealing with the fact that her only son hasn't spoken to her for the past 2 years. She & I were raised in a family that practiced toxic positivity & gaslighting. We both became single mothers at age 18. It's difficult to change family patterns when you're in survival mode. Just being honest with my children, instead of defensive, has kept our communication open. I'm praying for healing for my sister & my nephew.

PaulineFebruary 28, 2022

Oh this is such a wonderful and beautiful story! Inspiring! Thank you for sharing!

Priscilla J OwenFebruary 28, 2022

I loved reading this article, and as I was reading, I felt the whisperings of the spirit confirming to me of my own testimony concerning Joseph Smith and his ministry. I am so grateful to be a part of this great gathering... I loved the tale of this great Irish King. Thank you

RhondaFebruary 28, 2022

Thank you for sharing your wonderful conversion story. It touched my heart!

brian stubbsFebruary 28, 2022

Very inspiring Stephen. I greatly appreciate hearing your account--the legend, your story, open-mindedness, and diligence in seeking truth--all too often lacking in today's great-and-spacious-building derisions instead of diligently digging into details.

James ScottFebruary 28, 2022

Having an Irish ancestry I was intrigued by the “olde” stories and legends my grandfather related of faerie circles, the little people , the battles of kings and the bravery of the heroes and how God was such an important part of their lives. What a wonderful narrative of your life and the connection of your early life and how the Book of Mormon connected to your early church lessons.

Alex WrightFebruary 28, 2022

Stephen, you truly have the story teller’s gift. Thank you for sharing. I absolutely love this story you experienced. My family and I lived in Dublin for 2 years and we read many fairy tales. We never heard of this one, but now we have and will read it together. Cheers.

Dora, SloveniaFebruary 28, 2022

Beautiful testimony, thank you!

John C. GreeneFebruary 28, 2022

I am also an Irishman (born in America) who was a Catholic and was baptized a member of the Church at age 32. Because of my love of and interest in Ireland, many years ago I started reading "The Story of the Irish Race" by Seamus MacManus. When I read the story of the death of Conor Mac Nessa on pages 26 and 27, I immediately recognized that it paralleled the account of the prophet Zenos in 1 Nephi 19:12 "The God of Nature suffers." I highlighted and cross-referenced the two books. There is also a footnote to that story which says that an Irishman, Conal Cearnach, was in Jerusalem and witnessed the Crucifixion. "A representative of every race of mankind," says the legend, "was on the Hill of Calvary at the dreadful hour."

Terry Montague Rupert IdahoFebruary 27, 2022

Thank you, Jennie.

Jeanette Goates SmithFebruary 27, 2022

What a gift you have given so many for so long. Hope to stay in touch.

Rex LoweFebruary 27, 2022

Really movingly similar to several strengthening experiences I’ve had, which have come at times when I needed them most. Thanks for your writings, you’ve got the talent to write so that at times you hit the soft spot & I get a little testy eyed.

Nada WilliamsFebruary 27, 2022

I Love your reviews and I am also a Clair Poulson fan. I think I have read everyone of his books. It's been a great ride so far. Enjoy these next years. Also, I love your own books!!

JanieFebruary 27, 2022

Lol. Loved it

Corey D.February 27, 2022

Thanks Meridian for having the courage to reprint articles like this. It's pretty much the end of democracy in Canada and I don't think people realize how far along this same path we are here in the US.

Melinda ScottFebruary 26, 2022

Thank you for sharing your wonderful insight! I will look forward with curiosity! :)

Gwen G KrumpermanFebruary 26, 2022

Thank you for your reviews over the years. I value your recommendations. Best wishes in your future adventrues!

John R CarpenterFebruary 26, 2022

There shall be wars and rumors of war ...

Susan HansenFebruary 26, 2022

Thanks for you dedication to sharing literature!

Rochelle HaleFebruary 25, 2022

Thank you for a beautiful article. I wish I had had this much insight forty years ago. Thankfully, I was able to maintain my faith during a long emotional and physical struggle, after which one child miraculously came into our family. My middle name is Rebecca, my sister's is Rachel, and had I a daughter she would have been called Sarah Elizabeth. These are remarkable women whose examples we can look to for how they dealt with a number of challenges.

MicheleFebruary 25, 2022

I applaud the writer for reaching out to this wonderful resource. Geoff has such healthy advice. My daughter cut me off without much information; interactions were indeed painful. I chose to give her the space she clearly wanted, wrote her a letter of love and support. She eventually moved through it.

LoriFebruary 25, 2022

Oh Thank you, Thank you for your beautiful article!! Yes, I have cried my face off, and sooo get the other emotions and inquiries you have shared. Thank you for so eloquently reminding us of the gift of motherhood that is ours, even if we have not born children.

JimFebruary 25, 2022

Thank you for addressing this. I'm the father that had a temper at home, and have two sons that won't talk to me, despite repeated efforts to reach out to them. Both have withdrawn from other members of the family (including siblings and both parents - divorced now)

P.L. WhitmanFebruary 24, 2022

Thank you for 20 years of wonderful reviews! i have often purchased books based on your recommendations. You will be missed!

Marti ScottFebruary 24, 2022

I always looked forward to your reviews. I will really miss you and them.

Sharee HughesFebruary 24, 2022

I am also a Poulson fan and read this book some months ago. Great story. I am sorry you will not be reviewing any more. While I don't always agree with your reviews, especially of romance novels, which I tend to dislike, You have led me to some great reads. I was thinking of sending you one of my books to read. I hope Meridian gets a new reviewer.

James ScottFebruary 24, 2022

Congratulations and good luck for your future. Thanks for your commentary and evaluations and the encouragement to be reading.

Mariam KitchenFebruary 24, 2022

Thanks for your wonderful reviews! Good luck with your future!

Teri N.February 23, 2022

Would you might be able to please list the nutrition information for this recipe? It looks delicious, but my we have some diabetics in our family and I'm interested in knowing the fiber, sugar, and carb content. Thank you!

Scot ProctorFebruary 22, 2022

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AnnaFebruary 22, 2022

You nailed it again! Thank you.

Ed GayhartFebruary 22, 2022

Must be another one of those conspiracy theories!

R. BiddulphFebruary 22, 2022

No one would have believed that the Government's chief immunologist would have been funding the Wuhan virus. Half the U.S. would have not believed that the losing 2020 presidential candidate would have funded a seditious conspiracy to overthrow the winner.

Gary BealFebruary 22, 2022

Hess: I love your balanced and thoughtful manner in handling such a sensitive topic as secret combinations. Thanks for your effort in publishing this. May more of us read and integrate the counsel you put forth!

Ronald BarnesFebruary 22, 2022

I'm glad that you mentioned Isaac's age at the time of the sacrifice, although Josephus gives it as 25. In either case, when people tell the story they always mention the faith of Abraham but neglect the faith of Isaac. He was not a child as he is often depicted to be. He was an adult who could have refused to go along with it. According to Josephus, after Abraham explained the situation, "So he went immediately to the alter to be sacrificed." Abraham's faith was great, but Isaac's faith may have been even greater.

Helen A HederFebruary 21, 2022

Why is it so hard to find the latest podcasts? I have not been able to fine the podcast for Genius 24 - 27. Podcast 9

MaryannFebruary 21, 2022

Please know you are not alone. Thousands of us are experiencing the sorrow of having our children decide to leave the church. It broke our hearts when my son took this course, but we continue to pray for him and I know that the prayers of parents for their children are very powerful. I also pray for him when I attend the temple. I believe the Lord will keep calling after his children, and when I am sorrowful I can find some peace by trusting Him.

ChrisFebruary 21, 2022

Thank you Joni...honest discussions about sexual addiction and recovery unfortunately are rare in our wards and stakes. Some leaders get it but most don't, and we need more training, more discussion, and certainly more understanding in the church. I'm a recovering addict and with my wife serve as ARP missionaries, specifically in a couples' meeting. It's the best meeting in the church. Why? Because everyone is open, honest, and vulnerable. There's no hiding our problems or pain, and there's so much understanding and love. And there's awesome celebration in recovery! Grace is real, the Atonement works!

HelenFebruary 21, 2022

I never realized how little we read of him. It is comforting to know that our “smaller” lives are no less honorable than the “greater” ones around us.

Alisi Iongi FiliagaFebruary 20, 2022

Cannot thank you enough for this podcast. Weekly I would cut and paste the transcript and save it to a weekly file. If in case my week is so hectic I did not want to miss out. It would be a quiet moment of the week to re-read and dig deep. I am blessed thank you for sharing your podcast. Light receive on this end remarkable!

MikeFebruary 19, 2022

Geoff, why aren't you telling this lady to get out of this relationship? This kind of behavior on the part of the husband is NOT excusable under ANY circumstances. Twenty years of this behavior should make any sane person realize he's NOT going to change unless something drastic happens. Maybe her leaving him will make him wake up, but either way she shouldn't have to put up with this. Definitely get legal counsel and make a plan. You deserve better!!

judy fosterFebruary 19, 2022

Thank you so much!!! This is exactly what I needed to read today and want to reread later!!!

Kathleen WoodburyFebruary 19, 2022

What about Helaman chapter 4?

Charlene HeatonFebruary 19, 2022

I love the colored picture of Abraham about to be sacrificed. Can I get a copy? Also, are there color renditions of the other two hieroglyphics? I love the insights and knowledge you share in your podcasts. Sincerely, Charlene

DeborahFebruary 18, 2022

Bless you Sister Linford for sharing your insight and testimony refined through your experiences. You have added a drop of oil to my lamp.

Cynthia NielsenFebruary 18, 2022

Many thanks for this remarkable gathering of Abrahamic sources to bring to the eye a beautiful portrait of an eminently honorable man. His life has truly blessed the whole earth!

Susan DuttonFebruary 18, 2022

Great in-depth article. Thank you for your careful research and thoughtful discussion

Ron BarnesFebruary 18, 2022

I knew my wife was ‘the one’ from our first date. We are not ‘perfect for each other’. We are not ‘soul mates’. We both have things that we would change about each other. I’m sure that we have both given the other reasons for divorce. In our day to day living, I seldom get those ‘loving feelings’. However, every once in a while, something happens that bring those feelings to the surface and out into the open. Even when I don’t feel them, I know that they are there. We’ve been married 45 years.

Jewel AdamsFebruary 18, 2022

I know you think that participating in this is a good thing, but truthfully, to me, as a black woman, this month is always very degrading and actually makes things worse than better.

JanelFebruary 18, 2022

Thank you for sharing these stories and your testimony of gratitude. I can’t wait to share this with my family, especially my three teenagers. Perspective and gratitude are everything!

Dave HansenFebruary 18, 2022

Brother Halvorsen has set an example of Christian behavior that will forever be remembered!

Ronald PolsleyFebruary 18, 2022

Satan is breathing down our necks, can't you smell the sulfur? We must fight or it is over, me, you not someone else.

Kathleen AnnaFebruary 17, 2022

I was reminded again recently by a brother in his Sacrament meeting talk, that we are not here 'to fix' people but to love them and never give up hope.

PattyFebruary 17, 2022

This article is enlightening and motivating. Thank you!

Scot ProctorFebruary 17, 2022

The article has been updated to reflect the answer to your question.

KathleenFebruary 17, 2022

Our first experience with ARP was perhaps 14 years ago when my husband provided transportation and support for a ward member, to meetings. My husband returned home saying how incredible the program was and that it would help anyone with any problem. Seven years ago we were called as Addiction Recovery Missionaries and were so impressed with the spirit of the program, as well as the steps and process. Thank you to the Church for providing not only spiritual direction but hands on, practical, nuts and bolts tools such as ARP and the Self Reliance Programs.

Steve KittelsonFebruary 17, 2022

Great article! As a professional counselor and former leader of an Addiction Recovery group, I encourage everyone struggling with addiction to let go of shame. That comes from the adversary. Recovery is possible! Addiction does rewire the brain, but studies have shown that the brain has a quality described as "neuroplasticity" and it can rewire the brain back into a healthy state. And, of course, the cleansing and healing power of the atonement of Jesus Christ works miracles! With Him, there is always hope!

RuthFebruary 17, 2022

I signed up and really wanted to participate in this but when I tried to get in Zoom I was told it was full and I could only participate if someone left the site. I was not late! Are you going to present a summary of that meeting???

KathrynFebruary 17, 2022

Thanks so much for helping expose the myth of the "gospel according to Disney." When we see couples with lasting marriages who truly adore each other (Richard G. Scott and his wife Jeanene come to mind) we tend to assume they found "the magic." But I suspect they'd be the first to say that their happy marriage came about through following Christ and making the choice to love each other and nurture their relationship every day.

Leo WinegarFebruary 17, 2022

I also experienced a crisis of faith, but I've found a way to reconstruct my beliefs and I'm once again a happy and active member of the Church. For anyone who is looking for additional support, please check out Uplift Community of Faith on Facebook. We provide a loving community and resources for those who question, and also for church members who are trying to minister to questioning loved ones.

KathleenFebruary 17, 2022

This article could not have been more timely. Just yesterday in a phone conversation with my youngest daughter, she informed me that she never going back to church. Although she has been inactive for a while, she and her husband have allowed the missionaries to visit on occasion. The pain in my heart is excruciating, and the sorrow is deep. But I know the Lord is in charge and I have to depend on his timing.

John R CarpenterFebruary 17, 2022

OH! I forgot to mention that some other states allow hunting to start on private land a few days ahead of the public land hunting season. This targets nuisance animals and drives others away from private lands and increases yields on public lands. Again none of this is new! Just a new generation rediscovering old knowledge using "new" technology!

John R CarpenterFebruary 17, 2022

I find it strange that this information is seen as unusual. Hunters have known the last several hundred years that firearm use announces to prey animals that a deadly hunter has arrived. And the smart animals move away from the noise. For experienced hunters and older researchers, this is seen as common sense. Previous studies such as in the American Hunter or American Rifleman documented this behavior in the 1950s and those articles referenced even earlier works. Hunters learn that prey animals generally dislike sudden increases in other things like an increase in people noise and vehicle traffic. Over time, the normal use of the land, without harm to prey animals, allow those animals get used to that level of “noise.” But, a sudden increase of “noise” makes them nervous and many move away from such disruptions. Again this is nothing new! My guess is that this study is nothing more than a re-discovery of behavior seen repeatedly over time. But sadly, non-hunters and those ignorant politicians and intellectuals will likely miss use such a new study for anti-hunting or anti-gun purposes.

Andre J. MostertFebruary 17, 2022

My wife and I live in the Dutch Fields area of Midway, Utah. Each year we see an increasing number of deer and moose moving into our and adjoining yards during the hunting season. We love to have them. So far, we have not seen any elk in this settled area.

ShaunaFebruary 17, 2022

Thank you--clearly Abraham understood, as the Savior did, that obedience is the first law of heaven." And thank you for sharing your personal story. It takes great courage to be vulnerable. loved the definition of priority

PattieFebruary 17, 2022

Thank you for your thoughtful, well-written from your heart, and love for God and family, experience.

Debbi BaileyFebruary 17, 2022

Thank you for your beautiful insights and wisdom!

Thank you!!February 16, 2022

I sent this to Jacob, the author. Jacob, thank you for being a direct answer to prayer. I tend to want to find ways to enhance my marriage but in the end I end up getting disappointed from the way things turn out. I compare what the media portrays a relationship to look like and think it always needs to be that way or there’s something wrong with me. I asked God to speak to me and help me sort out my feelings and the next day, you publish this. It was exactly what I needed to hear. Your words were his for me. Thank you! I’ve always enjoyed your articles, but this one was phenomenal for me.

VaLoye OlsonFebruary 16, 2022

Would have loved to watch the meeting but the Zoom connection said the meeting was full. I hope it was recorded and that it can be watched sometime soon. (Zoom on my phone said that there were a total of 100 allowed. I don't believe that.)

GoogleFebruary 16, 2022

Google Wonderful story, reckoned we could combine a couple of unrelated data, nevertheless truly worth taking a look, whoa did one master about Mid East has got more problerms too.

ThanksFebruary 16, 2022

Jacob, thank you for being a direct answer to prayer. I tend to want to find ways to enhance my marriage but in the end I end up getting disappointed from the way things turn out. I compare what the media portrays a relationship to look like and think it always needs to be that way or there’s something wrong with me. I asked God to speak to me and help me sort out my feelings and the next day, you publish this. It was exactly what I needed to hear. Your words were his for me. Thank you! I’ve always enjoyed your articles, but this one was phenomenal for me.

JoJean LoflinFebruary 16, 2022

Is it possible to watch a recorded version of this?

Phillip C. SmithFebruary 16, 2022

A very thoughtful article worthy of serious consideration

Becky S.February 16, 2022

That was an article full of interesting ideas that just make sense when looking at relationships. Thank you. I have three marriageable ages children and one is getting married and the other two are just stuck in this idea of the perfect person. They can’t get past the first steps in a relationship and I wish they would see beyond Disney happily ever after and Hallmark movie love. It takes time and effort to be with someone. It is worth all the ups and downs for a deeper connections we don’t see in Hollywood portrayal of relationships.

C. PetersonFebruary 16, 2022

"Anyone who imagines that bliss is normal is going to waste a lot of time running around shouting that he's been robbed. The fact is that most putts don't drop. Most beef is tough. Most children grow up to be just ordinary people. Most successful marriages require a high degree of mutual toleration. Most jobs are more often dull than otherwise. . . . "Life is like an old-time rail journey—delays, sidetracks, smoke, dust, cinders, and jolts, interspersed only occasionally by beautiful vistas and thrilling bursts of speed. The trick is to thank the Lord for letting you have the ride." —Gordon B. Hinckley

Peggy WardFebruary 16, 2022

Love your insight. I know your article isn't meant to cover all aspects of "being in love" but I'd like to add that I personally have to choose to love, pray to love, work at being loving - always. Of course that's with those who are not abusing me or pushing boundaries or harming my well-being in some way. Another critical issue I have discovered in not having that "wow" loving feeling is plain ol' stress in life, also, hormones, tiredness, too many demands, too much of anything. With enough effort, I can have sparks and warmth and desire. And it's worth the effort.

ColleenFebruary 16, 2022

Infatuation fades, love is a decision,serve one another.

Ivor HoldenFebruary 16, 2022

Will this be recorded so those who are unable to join the presentstion tonight might be able to watch it at a later date? Many thanks

Ron KjarFebruary 16, 2022

As the great Clint Black wrote and sang: Love isn't someplace that we fall It's something that we do

KathleenFebruary 15, 2022

Good reminders of our human sides and experiences - put to music so beautifully.

KathleenFebruary 15, 2022

Thank you for presenting the facts about membership with the musical groups. I'm often asked about the process. Kudos to this sweet African Sister who opens our gratitude perspective.

JamesFebruary 15, 2022

People can't say whatever they want and then blame others for "getting offended" Even Christ says that in Matt 12:37.

Martha ClantonFebruary 15, 2022

Thank you so much for this wonderful teaching about gratitude. It has helped me to see just how the Lord is guiding me through similar struggles. When I feel myself drifting through the treacherous shoals of depression and anxiety, He prompts some of the wonderful women in my life to reach out to me even after they have moved far away. Their loving kindness buoys my spirit and helps me paddle just a little farther each day. With their help, I can feel my Savior reaching out to me. He has the Holy Spirit guide me toward safer waters. I may not see the way my path turns, but He dies. With His help, I know I will get there eventually.

SimplicioFebruary 15, 2022

When I was single, I seldom found dating advice useful—except for this, which transformed my experience: "You can be 'right,' or you can be effective." Too often we focus too much on the former, often in the form of, "I shouldn't have to...." That's probably 'right.' But is it effective?

RaLee HallFebruary 15, 2022

I loved this! Thank you.

RaLee HallFebruary 15, 2022

I loved this article. Thank you for taking the time to post it.

Amy FoxFebruary 15, 2022

What a wonderful story of gratitude! Thank you for sharing this.

Jacque BrownFebruary 15, 2022

This isn’t just good, it’s great! I hope this team continues to work together and produce more beautiful music.

LewisFebruary 15, 2022

There are so many wonderful lessons here, not just about gratitude. As I ponder the story of the hotel owner, I think about how rich and full his life became as he opened his mind and heart to a group despised and hated. As we seem to live in a time when spite and hatred of those "not like us" is so rampant, we too should open our hearts and minds. It is, after all, one of the great lessons we glean from the life of the Savior. I, for one, am extremely grateful that you share your wonderful gift of telling meaningful stories with us all.

Robert SpeakmanFebruary 15, 2022

Looked him up on FamilySearch. There are 2 Jason Macks in FamilySearch which appear to be the same person. Neither is sealed to a spouse and both indicate that SS is unavailable. Where did you get your sealing information?

HalFebruary 15, 2022

Thank you for this article! I had to take a hard look at myself and realize I am often guilty of this foible. I catch myself wanting others to accept my opinions as their own and being miffed when they don't. I will try harder to step outside myself and try to observe such conversations as a third party to see if I can become more aware of how my words and actions might be affecting the person I'm communicating with. Thanks again!

Jervae HornungFebruary 15, 2022

Amazingly wonderful story of true love! With God nothing is impossible!

Jervae HornungFebruary 15, 2022

What a wonderful reminder to be grateful for every situation we find ourselves in during this life. Thank you so much for sharing- I needed this today!

HollyFebruary 15, 2022

Thank you for preparing and sharing this. I didn't know I needed to read this today, but I did.

IreneFebruary 14, 2022

I LOVE this story!

Kathy ThatcherFebruary 14, 2022

Loved reading your thoughts and becoming lost in the beautiful quotes. Great read for Valentine’s Day. I’m in awe that that great kid of long ago who frequented our home has become such a romantic. Did living around fireworks have anything to do with this outcome?

Sarah HinzeFebruary 14, 2022

This is a powerful and sad story but I love that they are sealed and are together in the eternities. They were tricked out of being together on earth and yet God did prevail in bringing them together at last.

JoWoFebruary 14, 2022

Thanks for sharing this. I’d never heard this story. I love how Lucy Smith wrote of the broken hearts and how you followed up and learned that wonders never cease.

Lisa ReisingFebruary 14, 2022

This is such beautiful doctrine, thank you for putting together all the quotes and thoughts about the great work we all have opportunity to participate in!!

LexaGraemeFebruary 14, 2022

Thank you for this. I love finding chiasm in the scriptures, and this seems to have been hidden in plain sight. Wonderful! As for the chiasm not blending perfectly, there are a couple in the Book of Mormon that fit that description, too.

Corey D.February 13, 2022

I appreciate Meridians willingness to publish these articles. I haven't read this ladies book but I recommend to everyone who read or reads this article to read two other books, "The Economic Theory of Sex, Industrialism, Feminism and the Disintegration of the Family" and "Sex Scandal the Drive to Abolish Male and Female". Satan's attacks always are directed two ways, getting us to misuse our agency and our physical bodies, two things he does not have and what better and clever way than to confuse people especially the young about gender.

Sherry EthridgeFebruary 13, 2022

What is the reference for Wendy Ulrich’s statement please? We so enjoy these lessons. Thank you!

Deb LIeningFebruary 13, 2022

I appreciate this article very much and the comment by K. Chin. This issue of emotional resilience and maturity comes up frequently in the mission health councils where we serve. I was thrilled to hear your YSA sons have completed the inspired Emotional Resilience course prior to serving. This idea was floated as something that might be helpful mission preparation in one meeting recently. <3

CorinaFebruary 13, 2022

Una clase superior, gracias.

Merlin FreiFebruary 12, 2022

Thank you for an inspiring article about Wilford Woodruff. Zerah Pulsipher is my Grandmother Cramer's Great Grandfather. We are pleased with Zerah's efforts to leave for a mission and be guided to the Woodruff home. It is another story of how the Lord guides his people who rely on inspiration and revelation.

Rosalie Madsen PiersonFebruary 12, 2022

We are envious that you will be able to take your tour to Petra! The tour we took a few years back (with another business) did not include this site of the " New Wonders of the World"! I will google that to see them! You always have amazing photos, Scot & Maureen, even in the ads!!

GrannyFebruary 12, 2022

Elder Carlos Godoy visiting our stake related a story about Elder Eying. They were in the church building cafeteria eating lunch and someone asked Elder Eyring who he though thought would win the presidential election. Elder Eyring's response: It doesn't matter. The things in list 1 strike me as Martha Worries. Some are not important in the long run, some feel important but we don't know the answer to. Better to choose the better part and focus on list 2, keep the two great commandments, and wait on the Lord.

L.N.February 12, 2022

I agree with the author of this article. I have had multiple encounters with BYU Grad students at a major University, whose feelings were hurt by me while teaching a Gospel Doctrine Class. Instead of just walking out, we had to hear about their tender feelings unable to live with my comments. If they were my kid (I have Grandkids their age) I would have verbally straighten them and taken away their cell phone for a year. What self centered babies are being raised and educated these days.

L.N.February 12, 2022

I live in a town with a major university, we get a dozen or two BYU grad students move here to finish their degrees. What doctrines of the gospel are they being taught at BYU? Besides their educational arrogance, they bring with them a gospel learning that is mixed with the theories of men. In discussions, their arrogance leads them to override us who have less formal education. I am seeing Satan's teachings mixed with gospel truth's everywhere with these 'kids'. Are the Brethren aware of this?

Andrew CurrieFebruary 12, 2022

Sounds to me that at BYU we might be seeing the tares separating themselves from the wheat. Also, we're witnessing the fulfillment of Elder Ezra Taft Benson's prophesy that the day would come when a college education was worthless.

Carol BridgesFebruary 12, 2022

I don't know who first said it, but only a fool takes offense where none is intended. That is very true. My question is what does that make those who embrace the current tendency to look for excuses to be offended?

SimplicioFebruary 11, 2022

Good piece! "Outrage Masquerading as Virtue" was the technique used by the Lamanite kings and most of the other anti-heroes in the Book of Mormon to stir up the people unto anger and conflict. "Now when king Noah had heard of the words which Abinadi had spoken unto the people, he was also wroth; and he said: Who is Abinadi, that I and my people should be judged of him, or who is the Lord, that shall bring upon my people such great affliction? I command you to bring Abinadi hither, that I may slay him, for he has said these things that he might stir up my people to anger one with another, and to raise contentions among my people [Abinadi is being 'divisive!']; therefore I will slay him." Mosiah 11:27-28

Robert BellFebruary 11, 2022

Remember, His Church is an international church (not just a Utah or USA church), and my informal conversations show that many LDS members outside the USA view our politics as ridiculous, unbelievable toward the fair treatment of people and not very Matthew 25-like. We in the USA should re-focus our daily behaviors to match the Big Ten Commandments and the many related Christian (and human) virtues and quite worrying about one-up-man-ship, inhumane treatment of others, contentions, and divisions among us (read the BofM). If we are not being Christlike minute-by-minute, then we have yet a lot to learn in this mortal probation.

John R CarpenterFebruary 11, 2022

In the beginning, “… an angel of God who was in authority in the presence of God, who rebelled against the Only Begotten Son whom the Father loved and who was in the bosom of the Father, was thrust down from the presence of God and the Son, And was called Perdition, for the heavens wept over him—he was Lucifer, a son of the morning. Doctrine and Covenants 76:25-26 Lucifer, aka Satan, wanted all to be save al collectively and the glory of such would be given to him. Since the beginning of earth’s time, he has pursued this agenda in Heaven and on the Earth. “Our individual salvation depends on collective salvation.” This is what Satan, the Devil, teaches to man. Those that profess this are Anti-Christs denying the individual salvation of the only begotten son of our Father in Heaven. Many members have voted for and supported such believers of collective salvation. Christ Jesus teaches, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” John 14:6 In the Last days before our Savior’s second coming “…there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Matthew 24:24 King James Version Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints “…are called to bring to pass the gathering of mine elect; for mine elect hear my voice and harden not their hearts;” Doctrine and Covenants 29:7 But not all members of the Church of Jesus Christ will be saved in these last days. They will seek other paths like collective salvation before individual salvation. Collective salvation is a quasi-contract religious concept that is the antithesis of individual or personal salvation. It is a mandate of social justice which projects rights not normally given by the laws of a country or state. Its premises are based on dialogue, not accepted doctrine. It supports the perpetual Marxist class struggle for the self-claimed “divine plan of a socialist nirvana under the concept of progressive millennialism. Those that believe in collective salvation often claim Christianity and other religions as their base religion, but see all religions as one of many paths toward salvation. They stress that any form of salvation must be first a collective action of society becoming one in equality by overturning the past sins of human society and the pillage of the environment.

RandyFebruary 11, 2022

The Earth does not need another Savior. D&C 104:17 For the earth is full, and there is enough and to spare; yea, I prepared all things, and have given unto the children of men to be agents unto themselves. We did not create the earth. We cannot destroy the earth. The earth will serve God's purpose regardless of what we do. The scriptures are full of instructions on how to behave and where to look for guidance. When the questions have already been answered in the scriptures' why do you keep asking hoping to receive another answer? Are you occupied with unprofitable meats? Hebrews13:1-9 1 Let brotherly love continue. 2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. 3 Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body. 4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. 5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. 6 So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me. 7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation. 8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. 9 Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein. Follow the Prophet: 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; Conspiring Men and Women are all around you. Follow the prophet. D&C89:4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of evils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of conspiring men in the last days, I have warned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation Learn to follow God's plan for you rather than expecting God to embrace your plan.

Stewart LangFebruary 11, 2022

Things can be so simple - but we make things so HARD! The Prophet Joseph Smith said “We teach Correct principles and our people govern themselves. Our Primary children learn a wonderful song “Follow the Prophet and don’t go astray. Personally our family “follows the Prophets” and we don’t have anything close to your lists -it’s quite easy actually! I have been a convert of the Church since 1971 and I wavered ONCE when it comes to Church history, doctrine and conflict. A wiser older member at the time gave me some excellent counsel to me when questions came up: “for those of us that don’t believe in revelation, there is no adequate explanation and for those of us that do believe in revelation we stand by until the Lord speaks!” We have found this excellent counsel time and time again. .

Dennis HorneFebruary 11, 2022

There are some intriguing thoughts expressed in this piece. I think it largely accurate. And there is no question that this world's/society's values and beliefs are largely corrupt and is corrupting LDS youth. I do disagree with one minor matter. I do not think transgender surgeries and social transitions or people that have done those things should be "supported" in that area. It is a matter of supporting and tolerating and accepting a lie they have told themselves and that has been told to them. God has never made the mistake of putting a male spirit in a female body or a female spirit in a male body. The relevant scriptures state: D&C 93:24: "And truth is knowledge of things as they are, and as they were, and as they are to come." “The Spirit speaketh the truth and lieth not. Wherefore, it speaketh of things as they really are, and of things as they really will be; wherefore, these things are manifested unto us plainly, for the salvation of our souls” (Jacob 4:13) To go along with someone living a lie is to me to buy into that lie and support it. Men are men and women are women. This is another reason for the gift of discernment. So I disagree with the author on that point. Otherwise, some excellent food for thought. I have a daughter that the internet activists and her school peers ruined in the same way as one person described in the article. Wrapped down her chest until she could afford the elective surgery to have it removed; takes hormone shots; has a low voice; dresses like a man. She also breaks most every commandment in the scriptures but murder. Her life is a disaster zone. As Elder Badnar said: When any of Heavenly Father’s children misuse their physical tabernacles by violating the law of chastity, by using drugs and addictive substances, by disfiguring or defacing themselves, or by worshipping the false idol of body image, whether their own or that of others, Satan is delighted. To those of us who know and understand the plan of salvation, any defiling of the body is rebellion and a denial of our true identity as sons and daughters of God.

Ocean AnsleighFebruary 11, 2022

I loved hearing about the choir audition process. I'm thankful for all of those volunteers. We listen every Sunday from the other side of the country.

H Christman HowellFebruary 11, 2022

I can relate to many of your statements. We've been trained to see and know right from wrong, so it's easy to line up with those ideas that make up what we believe to be our core values. The counsel to focus on the realization that most of us are family centered is a great help. The other help is to focus on the bigger picture of mortal life and our eternal life. A lot less time consuming the headlines and more time in the Book of Mormon has been the greatest relief to this distraction.

KarenFebruary 10, 2022

My three year old brother, George, was prepared for his death by an angel. She came to him several times before our house burned down and he died in the fire. The night before he died he told me that she had visited him and told him she was going to take him to Heaven. He had been there a few months earlier when he drowned, but was brought back by an older brother giving him CPR. The night before he died in the fire, he talked to me about what Heaven was like and that he had his own white horse there. He had told others in our family of his angel, "Maralee - you know, the one who sings so pretty."

Kay MitchellFebruary 10, 2022

What an amazing journey you have taken us on. I have always felt a special spirit each time I visit Hawaii from either Australia or New Zealand (lived in both) & definitely my heart is there. I went to university when I was 60 & incorporated an Hawaiian project as part of my curriculum. Of course this project reflected in depth of the Hawaiian History. I was so saddened to learn how the Queen was treated. But didn't she have such a positive attitude. I love how you wrote about the events of her asking President Cannon for a blessing. What a humble moment for them both. Every time I think of Hawaii my heart becomes full. Thank you so much for the warmth you shared as you wrote about this treasured history. Aloha.

Wayne KalamaFebruary 10, 2022

Bro. Peterson, your well written articles on the Middle East have always been informative and inspiring to me. I am from Laie. When I was born our family lived on Moana street where the road from the Temple now runs uninterrupted to the sea. Thank you for your informative article. It brought back wonderful memories from that almost forgotten time and place.

Stephen J, KelseyFebruary 10, 2022

Thank you for this. My great grandfather, Hyrum Smith Woolley, went on a mission the then Sandwich Islands in 1873 and while there re-built the boilers for the sugar factory. His account of his experiences is fascinating.

Karell BinghamFebruary 10, 2022

Best Yet! Everything seems clear now! Blessing on you!!!1 Love karell

MaryannFebruary 10, 2022

Joni, thank you so much for the reminder that we need to seek after humility and avoid any feelings or expressions of superiority. I am wondering, though, about the example you gave of the word game. I love word games and It is common to hear someone say: "Oh, I don't know if you guys are going to be able to get this." I think it often means that it is a difficult word for the clue-giver and they are doubtful about whether they can come up with good clues. Of course, I wasn't there and did not see facial expressions or body language. I do think it is beneficial to give people the benefit of a doubt regarding their intent. I know there are times when I have made comments and realized later that I may have given a false impression of what I really meant. Perhaps, along with avoiding pride, we can also be charitable about how we interpret what is being said.

BrookeFebruary 10, 2022

Beautiful description. They are a special group!

GemmaFebruary 10, 2022

I agree completely. Get outta there.

LexaGraemeFebruary 9, 2022

This is funny, adorable and oh-so-believable. Thank you!

Curtis RasmussenFebruary 9, 2022

Beautiful. Thank you for bringing to light such heart-warming and refreshing insights. I could feel the love and faith of the Queen who knew there was real Power in the Priesthood. (And now I have the theme of Hawaii 5-0 playing in the back of my head!)

Nerita Flake PetersonFebruary 9, 2022

I enjoyed you humble and honest perspective

F. SidneyFebruary 9, 2022

Great article, and I totally agree too. As a therapist I once worked with a teen girl who felt unhappy as a girl, did internet searches and came out with the grand idea that she must be Lesbian. She then met up with highly motivated school people who convinced her she is actually trans. She started to constrict her breasts and wanted people to address her using all those fancy pronouns. Her mum asked if I could help her gain clarity. During the session it turned out that since she was young, this girl had family issues that resulted in her losing confidence, and at school she had repeatedly been told not to run, be loud, jump, and to make noises in the bus to school 'because she is a GIRL and only boys CAN do these things'. She had built the false belief that only by being a boy she would be free to be energetic.... And yet she was super depressed as a trans. Once the session was over she was starting to put thing together...I will say no more but may we open out eyes to what the movement is doing to our precious children. We need to let them be children.

DorrieFebruary 8, 2022

How grateful I am to have not grown up in this generation! Since I'm pushing 90, I was able to be what they called a "tomboy" I played football with the neighborhood boys, climbed trees and used my dolls for target practice. I never identified myself as a boy, I just thought they had more fun. I still do but managed to fall in love, get married at 17, bear 4 sons and enjoy playing football and climbing trees with them.

Jacki HunlowFebruary 8, 2022

Thank you for this well written fact filled article. I am sharing it far and wide!

JFebruary 8, 2022

I appreciate your approach to this topic, it's so terrible to see that medicine and even the truth has become politicized. I'm saddened that many physicians no longer take their oath seriously. No doctor would go along with the delusions experienced by a patient with schizophrenia, yet everyone should go along with a delusion a child is experiencing that is most certainly related to a mental illness? It just doesn't make sense, nor is it healthy for that to happen. It's the ultimate act of arguing against reality.

James ScottFebruary 8, 2022

A most remarkable treatise on the publishing of the Book of Abraham. It appears from the text that Wilford Woodruff carved the woodcuts of the facsimiles under the Prophet’s tutelage. As a teenager I wondered at the facsimiles and how they were reproduced for publishing. I wonder today if these wood blocks are in possession of the Church of Jesus Christ or if any of the printers prep pages are still extant?

Rita in TexasFebruary 8, 2022

My 7th great grandfather, Pauline Weaver, would have known James Ferguson very well. He was hired in Santa Fe to be the Battalion's guide to the West Coast. Not a member of the Church, Pauline left his wife and young daughters to take the "Mormons" to California, then stayed there to build a new life in Sacramento. He never came back to Santa Fe.

K. Chin, Modesto, CA North StakeFebruary 8, 2022

Thank you for your article! I am very glad for the new Emotional Resilience course that is now available through the Self-Reliance program. (Talk about an “inspiration” to develop this!) My YSA sons are just finishing their 10-week course in our stake.They have appreciated it, felt it is useful, and have gladly looked forward to their weekly group meetings! It has helped them, each, overcome some emotional hurdles and hesitations to serving missions. (They both received their mission calls last week!) Their group facilitator has been wonderful! I am looking forward to joining a new Emotional Resilience group at our stake’s next Self-Reliance kickoff meeting on March 6th. I’ve often wondered if the scriptural predictions of “…men’s hearts [failing] them…” in the last days is more about various mental and emotional challenges and illness—now facing millions of people on earth—rather than actual heart diseases? (Of course, many skilled and brilliant doctors surgeons, scientists…have made huge strides in the treatment of heart diseases and malfunctions—President Nelson included!) Perhaps, the latter day “failing hearts” are due to the complexities and emotional toll of our modern lives, and Satan’s overwhelming attack on individuals by attacking families? Without an understanding that comes from the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ (and sometimes even with it) our hearts can metaphorically “fail” as things get worse before our Savior Jesus Christ returns to earth. Again, thank you for your very timely article—and especially for the resources and “helps” you include!

KathleenFebruary 8, 2022

Clever and affective.

H PelessFebruary 7, 2022

I'm not sure why you claim women never sit in ward councils. In every ward I've served in, women have sat in council, led the important discussions, and often took lead in solving problems. I can't imagine I've been that lucky to be in unique wards. There is no way, I as a man, can do all the Lord's work without the compassion and empathy and sheer abilities of the women I am called to serve with and around. I gr up i n home were Mother was truly a Help Meet for Father and was every bit as important in our wards. Her example and service have been proof women are a vital component to everything we do as a Church. You sisters have more power than you realize, and more Christ-like attributes than most men could hope to gain. I doubt my experiences are unique, or that I've been in perfect wards. The contrary, many of the wards I've been in are small, struggling, and full of single mothers or only the woman is a member families. These women have been rock stars of service and leadership.

Jo Ann OkelberryFebruary 7, 2022

Thank you for this article. I just wish I were younger and could do more to persuade others that we are all children of God and should be treated as such. I think these medical and mental things that are done to children are a form of child abuse.

MaryannFebruary 7, 2022

It is truly a tragedy that this poor woman has endured abuse for the entire 20 years of her marriage. Her husband's abuse also extends to emotional adultery for their entire marriage. Yes, this woman needs counselling, but she also needs to go to a lawyer TODAY and find out what her rights are, and how to secure them. Then she needs to move out before the abuse escalates. She may have to stay with family or friends before she can live on her own, but this is an extreme case, and requires extreme measures. Since the husband has demonstrated for 20 years that he cares nothing for his wife's feelings, it is highly unlikely that he is going to change. It sounds like he has been physically abusive, so she also needs to file for a restraining order when she moves out. I hope she will find the strength and courage to take these needed actions. There is a better life waiting for her when she frees herself from her husband, gets counselling to heal her low self-esteem, and begins a new life. This situation needs to be taken seriously.

Harold RustFebruary 7, 2022

Thank you for your insight, for your very respectful approach, for your clear delineation of what is truth and what is a dangerous lie. I appreciate you reminded all of us to be respectful and supportive of transexuals while standing up to the movement pushing young people toward a very dangerous and bitter path.

Harold RustFebruary 7, 2022

Incredible and so genuine! His first letter is just 35 days after the Bear rebellion in Sonoma and two weeks before the Brooklyn arrived with 240 Saints into Yerba Buena (6 months later it became San Francisco). His vision of what was really the purpose of the Mormon Battalion is clearly laid out at this very early date. This one letter explains more that dozens of articles I've read about really were expectations for the Battalion. Thanks for an original artifact with real context.

SQJFebruary 7, 2022

Thanks you thank you thank you!!!. This will get the conversation going in LDS circles. LDS people are too scared to talk about this. It needs to be exposed so that people can get APPROPRIATE support and help and not affirmation. Keep talking!!

Annette BEllFebruary 7, 2022

Thank you for publishing this informative article

Robert StarlingFebruary 7, 2022

Beautiful Joni, just beautiful! I love your enthusiasm about sharing the gospel. Indeed, there is nothing more exciting or satisfying that we can do than participate in the glorious gathering of israel.

Sherry BrownFebruary 7, 2022

James Ferguson is my husband's 2nd great-grandfather. James had 4 wives total. Jane ended up being his 3rd wife (and rumored to be his favorite). My husband's grandmother was James' first wife Lucy, who he married in San Francisco in 1847. They had 7 children. He married Margaretta in 1849 (divorced in 1852, 0 children). He and Jane were married in 1851 in Salt Lake (5 children), and he married Phyllis in 1857 in SLC (2 children).

Paul EbbsFebruary 7, 2022

Every single point being advanced by this BLM action are what we were warned about in the Proclamation Of the Family. The tearing down enduring institutions has become commonplace in today’s wold. “ For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers having, having itchy ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned to fables.”

Louise smithFebruary 6, 2022

Do not purchase anything from a company that contributes to BLM.

Tammy LindstromFebruary 6, 2022

Loved this, especially the references you used that are from Middle East tradition, Jewish & Muslim. I learned a lot. Thank you.

Tony and Jeanette Ford, Nottingham EnglandFebruary 6, 2022

Every week we come home from church and listen to, and talk about, your podcast. It has become a part of our Sabbath day and we are so grateful for it. Thank you.

DJFebruary 5, 2022

Thanks for your wonderful insights on the interrelatedness of the 3 books of scripture. I have printed your article to refer to again in my future studies.

Romney BiddulphFebruary 4, 2022

Sacred clothing from New Testament times were different, but related to that mentioned in the Old Testament:

Dallas EricksonFebruary 4, 2022

The fact that our youth are addicted to social media and that so much of it is evil makes me think we are worse off than they were in the time of Noah when their thoughts were evil continually. The availability of media, especially for our youth, concerns me and makes me feel the Lord's return is near. Come Thou Oh King of Kings!!

Kay HamiltonFebruary 4, 2022

I absolutely agree that the goal is Heavenly Parents. However, when we have been running a car with only half the wheels, we need the other set of wheels in order to work optimally. It is not affirmative action to fully embrace holistic doctrine.

Reese JohnsonFebruary 4, 2022

The Old Testament does NOT exaggerate its numbers! It is true that some numbers are symbolic, but there is no evidence of exaggeration! None whatsoever. I noticed that the author failed to mention several others on the matter of the ages of the patriarchs, including Josephus, Elder Bruce R. McConkie, and several Protestant scholars.

Corey D.February 4, 2022

I understand what is trying to be said here and it's interesting and I know the author is attempting to show how faith and science can be reconciled in this instance to help those who might be struggling with this or other potential dichotomies in the scriptures particularly the Old Testament but we never should forget that God has all power, confounding the languages all at once while appearing unbelievable or even unreasonable to us is completely possible to God.

Douglas EideFebruary 3, 2022

I thought the article was well thought out and reasoned, but has any Apostle ever hinted that the numbers in the Bible were exaggeration for effect?

Corey DinsdaleFebruary 3, 2022

It's all part of "calling good evil and evil good". One of Satan's tools is semantics, pro-abortion became pro-choice or the newest version, " reproductive freedom". Pornography became adult material, gay marriage became marriage equality and many more examples, all of the latter terms have a much nicer sound or appeal than the former descriptions. Just like Euthanasia now usually referred to as Death with Dignity.

Erik HansenFebruary 3, 2022

Thanks--Well studied and of course there are all kinds of hidden secrets in the history, culture and language of ancient writings that quick reading never tell. So there are those who try to protect the idea that they get the all meanings immediately and it's all literal, etc. Or the people who really don't read but listen to others and modern cultural interpretations. BUT trying to disprove Old Testament dates, events and characters like this is biased to making it comfortable for everyone... easy to explain to modern people. There is no reason we need to grasp at straws to be apologetic for studying and believing in a kind of world that was much different. We also have to feast on modern man's science and spit out certain theories to make some things work out.

HalFebruary 3, 2022

Wow! Loved this article - it was just what I needed today.

RandyFebruary 3, 2022

Another excellent perspective article!

Michele JuniorFebruary 3, 2022

I loved this comment/article so much. As a 76-year-old woman I sometimes feel frustrated that I have such a difficult time to stay awake during the session. But, I’ve worked hard to stay awake also. I have hadConfirmation that it is important for me to be there and that my relatives appreciative of the effort. Thank you so much!

Doris CrockettFebruary 3, 2022

You have made very many good points. Thank you for keeping us aware of what we should be doing. It isn't going to let up for quite a while.

KenFebruary 3, 2022

If the shedding of blood is death, what does the body represent?

HalFebruary 3, 2022

Thank you for this kind, but direct, response to an issue that keeps coming up despite counsel from inspired leaders that the doctrine of eternal marriage between a man and a woman will never change. As mentioned in the article, I was always taught that the Priesthood would eventually be available to every worthy male. I rejoiced when on my mission, we received word that this blessed day had arrived. In contrast, I have never been taught that marriage would ever divert from the divine union of a man and a woman in the House of the Lord by the appropriate authority. True happiness lies in embracing the truth.

HalFebruary 3, 2022

I also love reading the Old Testament. The symbolism, imagery, and the powerful prophecies touch me every day - especially when I see those prophecies being fulfilled. For example, Isaiah warned against the prevailing trend of today of finding fault with someone for making an innocent comment that can be twisted out of context. "That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought." (Isaiah 29:21). Or Isaiah 5:20 - "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" There are score of examples of this every day. The Old Testament is full of sound doctrinal advice to help us detect and avoid evil and prepare for the Coming of the Savior.

HMCFebruary 2, 2022

there is no such thing as "the" Ukraine ... it's just "Ukraine"

Bonnie M.February 2, 2022

Thank you so much for this. My husband and I have been talking about this as we have seen more and more empty shelves. We have a lot stored but are interested in investigating and implementing your suggestions.

DaveFebruary 2, 2022

How long before we stop this group!!

Jo Ellen NymanFebruary 2, 2022

Considering the Church stand on marriage, the Family Proclamation, and our understanding of our Father's plan--has anyone entertained the possibility that same gender attraction is only a mortal phenomenon?

JFebruary 1, 2022

This is such a difficult subject to navigate because there are so many feelings involved, but one thing that I see that is not always acknowledged is the very likely possibility that the feelings of same sex romantic attraction is a condition of mortality and that those feelings may not continue on in a perfected body when we are no longer living in a fallen world.

MusicFebruary 1, 2022

You have proved that goal setting is what everyone needs to succeed in this life. Thank you for your outstanding achievements not only in soccer but also for our love for the Savior, Jesus Christ so we may return to live with him someday.

Sandy DildineJanuary 31, 2022

It is possible, even essential that there are real facts in the Old Testament along with the rich symbolism. There has to be a real framework for the symbolism to rest on. The symbolic numbers of multiples of 12 and 40 etc., can be true as well as the prophets of old actually living longer before the flood than after it. Not all numbers are symbolic in the scriptures. Jacob did really have 12 sons; they were named. I have been taught that God was giving the people before the flood time to repent. Also, that the earth was baptized and that would necessitate a full immersion. I don't think it is necessary to have all symbolism or no symbolism.

Jo Ann OkelberryJanuary 31, 2022

This was really interesting and informative. I do like the idea of the Hawaiians buying grain from the Egyptians. I love your humor.

BoBJanuary 31, 2022

Thank you Jeffrey. I have loved 1 and 2 Enoch, and since reading your articles, I have loved learning about Manichaeism. The religion itself reminds me of an apocryphal book; there are wonderful gems inside as well as interpolations. I see them as an attempt to stitch back together isolated truths that had been scattered. Now, Mani was not the prophet of the restoration, and I believe that some of his assumptions or premises are definitely incorrect, but watching him/them attempting to patch back together what had been scattered is very interesting. Obviously they were able to preserve some pearls that otherwise had been vaguely remembered but discarded.

rex infangerJanuary 31, 2022

I am kind of wondering if the earth was baptized at the time of the flood seems like that interpretation would have to be literal. Plus it is hard to get an ark from the new world to the old world if you don't have a literal flood.

Katrina DonaheyJanuary 31, 2022

Thank you so much for this article. I learned a lot and appreciate the insights shared. It was super helpful in expanding my understanding of the importance of contextual, historical, and cultural understanding as we read the Old Testament. Well written, well supported article. THANK YOU!

LexaGraemeJanuary 31, 2022

Thank you, Dr. Peterson. I am happy to say that I am a Latter-day Saint that has loved the Old Testament from my high school seminary days, and continue to love it more and more as I continue to study and teach it. You have laid forth points that I never consciously thought of, but truly appreciate now that I have.

Michael ScrimsherJanuary 31, 2022

For the flooded house scenario, all that stress and damage and hassle could have been 100% avoided if the home owner had turned off the main incoming water supply whenever they leave the home for a vacation or extended time. Any wise home owner does this to simply and easily avoid the exact scenario that you described. Most homeowners insurance companies encourage a wise homeowner to do this as it saves both parties a big hassle if pipes freeze, burst, or etc.

LexaGraemeJanuary 31, 2022

Thank you for this! It goes along with another article posted on Meridian; the Bible was not written for our day, and we have to understand where the writers were coming from in order to understand it completely. When I teach Isaiah, for example, I will be sharing with them the different styles of poetry used at the time. Explaining numbers and their significance is the same.

Lisa CroftJanuary 31, 2022

If there are huge losses and the insurance company says you don’t have coverage, I recommend a consultation with a lawyer experienced in such cases. Sometimes state law supersedes the terms of the policy. Also, the insurance company has a duty to explain the coverage options. What the insurance company says, isn’t always the end of the story.

craigJanuary 31, 2022

Thank You! More people need to understand scripture better, and that means knowing that the people of A.N.E. didn't see the world as we do. Much of scripture is symbolism or allegory, not the simple recording of facts.

Jeanne GuinnJanuary 31, 2022

OH WOW! Amen.Very well put.There has to be enough of us to see the missile in order to save this country.

Lexie StatonJanuary 31, 2022

Thank you Carolyn for your article! The information was helpful as were the real life examples. I'll be passing this along to my grown kids.

Oakley EatonJanuary 31, 2022

Thanks for sharing this valuable information. We experienced a flood in our home when the water source to the frig ice maker broke and flooded the kitchen, dining, family room and most of the basement. We have USAA insurance and carpet and sheet rock were replaced mostly, but upstairs they only dried the carpet. There was a mold smell downstairs for a couple of years after. I’m definitely going to review our coverage. Luckily we only paid a $500 deductible, but I will be more assertive if there’s ever a next time.

BryanJanuary 31, 2022

Thanks for sharing! I didn't know of that cultural aspect of numerical exaggeration. I'll be interested to find out, when not limited by mortal misunderstanding, what really happened with a lot of the seeming inconsistencies. I like to point out that the Hebrew "yom" may be interpreted as "day" or "time." Some think that the Creation consisted of 7 24-hour periods. I think that view doesn't take into account that the Creation narrative itself talks about the invention of the 24-hour day, which doesn't happen at the beginning, and that "yom" doesn't have to mean "day."

Debrah RoundyJanuary 30, 2022

That snowballed Bishop was delightful!

Debra M.January 30, 2022

I love your articles, and the quotes from Camilla Kimbell and Patricia Holland! You are such a breath of fresh air for me, and also you bring such comfort and assurance about our Heavenly Mother.

Corey DinsdaleJanuary 30, 2022

One of my Pandemic discoveries is Meridian Magazine online and in particular your stories, the first of which I read several months back and now have been going back through the archives of your stories. They gladden my heart and cheer me up. This story in particular made me smile and reminds me of a lot of similar stories, little kids are great, especially grandkids, wished I could have seen more humor when my own kids were little. Thanks for your stories, you are what I would call the spiritual Patrick McManus or the LDS version of Robert Fulghum.

Corey DinsdaleJanuary 30, 2022

First a comment about why longevity changed after flood, my wife will say "environmental contaminates", I say mold and mildew which introduced disease, but that's conjecture. Secondly your comment in the heading for today's discussion about increasing wickedness and are we recognizing it or not. Years ago a co-worker who was retired military went to a lecture that was giving by a former POW from Vietnam, he had been shot down in the early days of Vietnam and was in captivity longer than almost any other, I believe he was also a member of the church. My co-worker shared the following, he said after the lecture he and several others who had all been to Vietnam went up to talk to this guy, he looked at the group and said, " I'm going to share something that I think this group will understand, I'm a modern day version of Rip Van Winkel". He then explained what he meant, he said that he was basically cut off from the world for 10 yrs, knew nothing about what was going on in society. He said he had been back in the States about a week and decided to turn the TV on, said he was shocked by what he saw and heard and what was being allowed on TV and said "and you all don't even realize the change because it's all been gradual for you but for me it's all at once and I can recognize it". Pretty strong and telling statement.

CindyJanuary 29, 2022

Since when does the "Government" produce anything of quality????

Helen KlannJanuary 29, 2022

This story (or parable) is profound. I'm looking for a ceramic pig to paint purple and give to my grandchildren along with the story and your beautifully written article. Thank you so very much!!!! Such a timely piece.

AnnaJanuary 28, 2022

I so appreciate your efforts and words. I’m really struggling with why the church structure/policies are not making more adjustments to reflect this. Why are we still stuck in complementarianism and can’t move into egalitarianism? I am struggling with wanting to stay in a church where I don’t feel good raising my daughter here. I’m curious your thoughts on this. Thank you!

Patricia WintersJanuary 28, 2022

Thank you so much for the transcript! I would not be able to have this instruction without it!

Debrah RoundyJanuary 27, 2022


Peter vdGJanuary 27, 2022

I have always been so uncomfortable with those devices and services that take out objectionable material from movies. 1) You're supporting those who create such things; 2) You can still see their lips mouthing the words and the mind fills it in; 3) They take you to the bedroom, then cut away-where is your mind going? I say "leave it alone."

John R CarpenterJanuary 27, 2022

We teach our children a little here and there. The world teaches our children everytime they go out into it. A little here and a little there over time makes a big difference.

John R CarpenterJanuary 27, 2022

ANYTHING with Federal money attached requires such day cares to support the Federal Ageneda like teaching Critical Race Theory and other Non-Reiligious teachings. Teach a child when they are young ...

BZJanuary 27, 2022

This is all well and good. However a piece that is missing is the relationship piece. Family are not “items”. When children make choices quite inconsistent with the Gospel, this would suggest we “move on” or past that since they don’t meet our standards. While I do not agree in the least with my children’s choices- no matter that we didn’t miss an fhe or church meeting or etc etc- this is their mortality. Their time to choose. They are not inanimate objects. Let us not forgot if we choose to only be around “perfect” acting people, we miss so many opportunities to be blessed and bless others who are not so “perfect” in their actions. The Savior strode among the sinners. As we are all sinners....

Richard GrowJanuary 26, 2022

I agree that having one or both parents or possibly relatives provide child care is the ideal situation for everyone!! But some parents don’t have that luxury, either because of being single parents or because there some situations where both parents must both work part or full time. The child care in the legislation is designed to supplement the child care that parents are able to provide!!

Sharlene CorbridgeJanuary 26, 2022

The plan sounds a lot like a program to take the children away from parents to Indocement them in policies that would be harmful to society.

Kandace HardenJanuary 26, 2022

In a perfect world kids would stay home with a parent until school age. However, nearly 50% of families have only one parent- how does that work? Our economy is built on 2 working parents at this point. The Child Credit that just expired helped address this issue by giving parents a large enough tax credit that one parent could stay home - at least part time. But now that is gone and Sen Machín is afraid it encouraged people not to work. Really? Staying home with children is work! There is so much hypocrisy in the political arena that it is almost comical. Sen Romney’s plan to pay family members to care for kids is certainly one to explore. However, there are many many families out there with no extended family around them. So doesn’t having good quality child care with licensed teachers make sense for them? And let’s pay those teachers what they are worth - thus we need some subsidy from the government to cover the $1200-$1500 it costs per child in good child care. Over and over I see statistics that show a decline in the US birth rate , a decline in the LDS birth rate. Our economy is built on new workers entering the work force - we need more babies born here. Sen Lee pointed that out on the senate floor a few years ago. But the government doesn’t what to help out families as other first world countries do with financial incentives. Providing quality day care is not PUSHING kids out the door. It’s providing a safe healthy place for them to go when parents go to work.

KA MillerJanuary 25, 2022

In the many Ward Councils I have recently attended, the Women who are present dominate the dialog, and propose most of the actions to be taken. And, this has been the case for a number of years through three different Bishoprics and three different Stake Presidencies. Am I living in an unusual place?

Sasha W KwapinskiJanuary 25, 2022

One factor which helps me to better understand this matter is the fact that the LDS priesthood is a priesthood of the laity. This is rather obvious actually, but many observers seem to miss it. In most other denominations which have a Priesthood, it is a comparatively small, select body of men, who are separate and distinct from the laity by years of theological and seminary training. In our church, however, being ordained to the priesthood does not separate one out from the laity. An LDS priesthood holder is, and remains, a layman. As a single father who raised my children alone during most of their growing up years, I can testify to the importance and value of women, partly from the active welcoming, care and involvement which my children received from many of the women in my ward.

LaFonda MerrickJanuary 25, 2022

I don't know if "women are more spiritually minded than men" is true. It's really not for me to say, but I am grateful I have always known of my Father in Heaven's love for me as his daughter. As a strong female business leader, I am often asked about my "not having the priesthood" and have tried to explain many of the same reasoning in this article. Women are different, not less. Men are different, not less. We all have something to learn on earth. Great article.

Joe BrightJanuary 25, 2022

This is one of the most powerful articles I have ever read, clear, based on fact and solid reason in a great time of need. We may not have all the answers but we do have enough. We know that our heavenly father is one of absolute love. He loves his children and has an absolutely special place in his heart for his daughters, who mirror his mate, and so should we. If we as men do not embrace this fully we fall short. This is enough for me. I will do everything I can to promote this confidence and the care it instills in me for my sisters and brothers. The pain in the world is the enemy to our peace. Let us take refuge in the love of our father. Thank you!

Colleen AndersonJanuary 25, 2022

Thank you for posting this article.

Kate PhoenixJanuary 25, 2022

Excellent article! Well spoken. This has been a hot topic the past 18 years of my life as I have researched and studied what my Priestesshood means to me. I believe that this mortal life started with a woman (Eve) and will end with us women coming to the knowledge that our church culture is just that, a skewed version of personal beliefs, rather than actual the doctrine of Elohim's Priesthood (Their Priesthood).

Sandy DildineJanuary 25, 2022

This was a great article that opened my eyes to the problem that the younger generation of women has with church leadership issues. It is a product of the current culture and women's own feelings of inadequacy that take confidence to overcome. I am a female temple ordinance worker and agree that women have Priesthood Power. There is work enough to do for everyone in God's kingdom and women tend to step up and do it. Men having a different role than women is not because women aren't capable. Women have the role of nurturing and teaching and leading also in many capacities. Wanting the spotlight is very different than wanting to serve...

John R CarpenterJanuary 25, 2022

This article is something that all members of the Chruch need to read or to be aware of. I will reccomend the principles of this subject be taught in Priesthood and leadership meetings.

ClarkJanuary 25, 2022

Many years ago, we were on a cruise that included a Church group and were invited to attend their Sacrament Meeting. They had not brought any trays, but the cruise line had provided dinner plates to be used for the bread, and small paper cups to hold the water. The paper cups were obtained from the coffee bar, and were imprinted with the message "Seattle's Best Coffee." So it was memorable for more than one reason.

Carol KendallJanuary 25, 2022

Wow! I have NEVER seen this issue expressed so clearly - and from a position of faith! I have faced these concerns since my marriage in the mid-‘70s, relying solely upon my faith in the Restoration. I’m so glad my daughters and friends can be strengthened by your perspectives.

Harold RustJanuary 25, 2022

It is always helpful to be guided through the process of gaining insight into the perspectives that another individual may have regarding an experience that can look very different to them than it does to you. Thank you for that insight. As a male priesthood holder, I developed my own explanation for why men only hold priesthood keys: I simply visualized what the Church would be like if men didn't feel a special need to attend Church, to visit other members, and to stand in front of the Congregation each Sunday and administer the Sacrament: from my perspective and limited experience, the result would be a Church with women doing all the work and most of the men out enjoying a game of golf or out fishing. Women seem to be more spiritually inclined on their own while men need others expecting them to be spiritual before they rise to that full involvement. Whether my view is actually correct or not, it has always been my guide to recognize a Priesthood calling is given to me to make me a better person than I would otherwise be while women seem far more inclined to do that without being called. When my wife asks for a Priesthood blessing, it boosts my spiritual awareness so that it just might approach the level of her faith. I think she also feels that.

T. LarsenJanuary 25, 2022

This is an excellent article. I have been pondering how I can contribute to creating feelings of equality and inclusion for sisters in the church. Small ideas have come, like thanking God in public prayers for the service of relief society and other female presidencies instead of always thanking Him for the bishopric and other male leaders. Your article has given me great additional food for thought. Thank you!

Ricki GibbonsJanuary 25, 2022

This article was not just for the men. I have had difficulty understanding why some women struggle with the things this article discusses. It was “not my baby”. I intend to print this off and refer to it and study it. Thank you!

RobertJanuary 25, 2022

This is a wonderful article. My wife and I went through a somewhat similar child story, other than ours began shortly after we where married. I’m not sure if it is common as it used to be, however it became rather stressful and depressing to my wife. We would often get the question of when are you going to have children. I found it quite unsettling as when we first attended church together shortly after we began dating. Many of the comments upon introducing her, and yes, you probably guessed it had something to do with tying the knot. I’m sure many have gone through it before. “When, where, how”, or one that would really irritate me was the “Are You going to get married.” The times it was the first thing out of someone’s lips, I should of introduced her as my sister or cousin. We did get married about two and a half years later. Like I said my wife would get depressed when asked about children, especially as it was a few years before we had a child as my wife had severe endometriosis which can narrow the chance to have children for some. She struggled with her emotional mentality as the years went by trying to have another especially when her sisters or she would see others with newborns. When someone would ask about having more was even worse than before our daughter was born. It was about 14 years later when she became pregnant again. We were so happy, especially my daughter as she was excited to have a baby brother or sister. Then came the day she miscarried. It just about destroyed her. She eventually would have to have a hysterectomy to get rid of the endometriosis. Today it’s still difficult to look back sometimes, Her patriarchal blessing states she would bare and raise more children and we accept that as knowing that we still have an opportunity during the millennium to still have and raise more and hopefully get the chance to meet and be with our son. I say son as my daughter really wanted a brother and my wife, daughter, and I hold onto the faith and believe it. I realize the questions about marriage or children may not affect others as much even if that at all, however they are still questions I myself may hesitate or attempt to ask someone right off the bat or at least choose how and when is the right way or time or if it is a question that is really necessary to ask or possibly even know at all.

MaryannJanuary 24, 2022

Love your sense of humor--thank you so much for sharing it with us. A good laugh is much needed in our society today to help us put things into perspective.

MaryannJanuary 24, 2022

Oh, yes, those of us with children have all experienced moments of embarrassment, and not just on the telephone. I remember one evening when the missionaries came for dinner and my young daughter burst forth with the exclamation that the salad bowl we were serving from was our "barf bowl." Parenthood is NOT for the faint-hearted!

LexaGraemeJanuary 24, 2022

Yes, they are. Thank you.

maryJanuary 23, 2022

I am grateful to have these books exposed for parents who are trying to protect their children at such a very young and impressionable age. These books target children at a vulnerable age when they need to be free from subliminal yet powerful suggestions that lead them to believe that their sexuality is something they need to be aware of. I feel like the plan of salvation is being thwarted when we embrace teachings.

Corey D.January 23, 2022

not long after I got home from my mission many years ago, the elders quorum instructor, who was in banking, shared an interesting story, he said he had been to a conference and one of the lecturers who was not LDS made the following comment, "you Mormons have this built in way to teach your kids about money and budgeting, this tithing thing I think you call it", it was an interesting observation, usually peoples reactions to tithing, at least in my experience is negative.

James ScottJanuary 20, 2022

An illuminating treatise, congratulations on a encompassing subject. I’ve always wondered at the comment regarding the language given to Enoch that the very elements gave attention. This is the language of creation. I also enjoyed your list of 31 words never before used and can help but wonder where and what concordance you used for this research. Transgression and righteous are words used throughout the canon, how did you so discreetly divine your list?

I'm a believer!January 20, 2022

When you wrote in Oct. 2019 about the pandemic, my husband and I went out and bought more medications and a supply of food that's easily eaten for us and our four kids, to add to our large food storage. We were NOT sorry! I listen to you and take your advice on everything now!

Cynthia M. MoorheadJanuary 20, 2022

In Dr. Parry's article he says there was no baptism for the dead in the ancient temple. But the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:29 (a verse we often quote to investigators), he makes it clear that baptism for the dead was not something new--he expected the Corinthians to be familiar with it. Did baptism for the dead then start immediately after the Lord's death and resurrection? We know the ancient Jews were familiar with baptism -- when John the Baptist was baptizing in the Jordan, they all knew and understood what baptism was. Did the early Christians baptize for the dead, perhaps outside the temple?

Michele NoelJanuary 20, 2022

Clarity, yet again! Thank you Vivian!

Christine BerryJanuary 19, 2022

The UK might have problems with waiting lists for planned surgeries but are well known for their excellent emergency care. Sometimes anecdotal accounts can screw reality.

Harrison Bryant.January 19, 2022

I have heard information like this before. Never has it meant so much to me as now. And mg heavenly father takes time out to listen and help me on my needs. I cant just love him now. The is the most wonderful father I have ever known

Kristen OpenshawJanuary 19, 2022

Satire, yes, but thank goodness he and his wife are both "double vaxxed." I wouldn't feel safe reading this otherwise.

LolaJanuary 19, 2022

If you don't like the books, don't read them to your kids. And in the meantime get to know people with gender dysphagia and educate yourselves (for example there is not just xx and xy).

Amanda PerkinsJanuary 19, 2022

I'd say to these moms...then don't read these books to your kids. It's wonderful to have these books for kids that are transgender. They need to feel accepted and acknowledged. And if you have a family member or neighbor where this is the case, then these books can help teach so there is compassion, kindness and understanding.

Robert van BruggenJanuary 19, 2022

I agree with much of your article about socialism and communism. The way farmers and other business receive assistance in the US from the government it appears we are well on our way to a socialist society. There are two areas where a social system benefits all of society, that is education and health. A well educated nation will be a successful nation. And regarding health care Mr Stoddard, please take some time to read up on US vs, Canadian health care. You will find many similarities and many differences. Do not overlook the fact that Canadians do have a longer life expectancy than US citizens. While it is true that there are wait times for some non essential procedures, Heath Care in Canada is available to all and no one has ever lost their home or had a bankruptcy due to medical debt. Nor have Canadians ever had to borrow money from relatives to pay medical debt. When health care is available to everyone regardless of their income, the US will likely be a healthier nation. It may be that US health care corporations and doctors raking in billions of dollars are resisting a change to universal health care system for all,thereby neglecting the poor and middle income earners. The US health care system is sick and only works well for the wealthy and those with employment that will cover their health care insurance.

Bob LJanuary 19, 2022

Brilliant! Our first natural reaction to the Tribune suggestions is disbelief and anger, but responding with satire and ridicule is much more effective. Nothing infuriates totalitarians like being laughed at and their ideas ridiculed, and the Tribune deserves that label. Bravo!

Diane QuustJanuary 19, 2022

I’m excited to study the OT. - to get the big picture of the Twelve Tribes etc. it’s our beginnings. It’s where we come from.

E M RedelfsJanuary 19, 2022

Thank you for this magnificent and faith promoting perspective, once again I stand all amazed at the majesty of our God!

Thomas Y Jesus TomenyJanuary 19, 2022

What an inspiring article, to put forth all of our motivators so succinctly. Thank you!

KathleenJanuary 19, 2022

MARVELOUS! If there is a way to bring forth this message of truth OUR missionaries can and will DO IT!!

GoogleJanuary 18, 2022

Google Wonderful story, reckoned we could combine a number of unrelated information, nevertheless really worth taking a search, whoa did a single discover about Mid East has got a lot more problerms also.

MaryannJanuary 18, 2022

The voter fraud taking place in our nation is outrageous and I am deeply disappointed that the government has been so slow to take drastic measures to put a stop to it. It is not good for the morale of a nation to feel their vote doesn't matter when it is so easy for fraud to take place. I agree with requiring a picture, but sometimes people don't look much like their pictures (if I really look like my driver's license picture, I may have to kill myself!) I think everyone should be required to be fingerprinted and their fingerprints should be scanned before they vote and then marked with indelible ink. And, for heaven's sake, abolish absentee voting, except for the military and disqualify all votes that are late. It saddens me to have to say this--it seems like common sense to me, but NO ONE who is not a legal American citizen should be allowed to vote under ANY circumstances.

MaryannJanuary 18, 2022

Thank you so much for some much needed humor on a touchy subject. Although, like you, I had both vaccines, I certainly do not condone suggestions that we persecute or shame people who choose not to be vaccinated. These diseases are very tricky--I know that people who have been vaccinated still get the disease. The other mystery is that vaccinated members of the same household get it, and other family members living with them do not. This happened in my own family, as well as countless others. I believe it is wise to be vaccinated and, if you can't maintain a safe distance, to wear a mask. But, I sometimes wonder if you're going to get it, you are going to get if, and if you're not, you're not. There doesn't seem to be any logic, but better to be safe, than sorry.

Sylvia MilnerJanuary 18, 2022

Anne, I remember your mother telling me of an experience she had in researching her family. Your mother had spent the day researching and felt like she had completed a family for sealing. When she went to bed that night, your mother could not sleep. The mother of the family she had researched was not content and happy. Your mother finally got up and reviewed her research work. She found an infant daughter that she had overlooked. Your mother added the baby girl to the family record for sealing to the family. When your mother finally retired in the wee hours, she felt the mother's joy and peace that her whole family would be together.

DAVID GIANFREDIJanuary 18, 2022

Rachel, with this video sharing your life view, you are fulfilling just one of the many reasons why you came here to be with us. You are a beacon of light to those still in darkness. Much Love

FrankJanuary 18, 2022

I am not in the health profession. I can fix an engine; I can build one. But my judgement of heath affairs is small. I trust Pr. Nelson not as a doctor, but as a prophet. If he set an example for us of being vaccinated, it should be because Heavenly Father told him to do so. If he set such an example without being commanded of God, then on his head be the responsibility for those of us who followed him, being likewise vaccinated and then contracted COVID. My wife and I both have had it since obeying that example. I am sure that there is a reason that we will understand at some point. In the meantime, I just scratch my head and keep following.

MelJanuary 18, 2022

I blame ignorant people for the article. Perhaps living in an actual totalitarian country would be a good “re-education” experience.

Gary LawrenceJanuary 18, 2022

Well done, Jeff. Just the right touch of ridicule.

RichardJanuary 18, 2022

Excellent article and discussion. I couldn't agree with you more concerning the need to be "transparent with our assumptions" regardless of which side of the discussion and theory of thought they may fall. Thank you!

Phil MacLennanJanuary 18, 2022

Two points I would add that may influence the widespread acceptance of the notion that vax is the right thing to do is that firstly, when you have many people with a wide variety of opinions, rigorously debating, there can be a need felt to finally arrive at plan of action, otherwise there is endless analysis paralysis, which can be tiring and costly. Perhaps the vaccine is strongly pushed, because it allows us to think we are finally doing something to control or fight back and reduce risk in response to a raging pandemic, and after all, it vax does no harm. (or so we are told) Also, out of empathy for the front line health care workers and not wanting to contribute to their burden if we become hospitalized. Secondly, there was a recent gen conf quote (that I couldn't find) that said something to the effect that the doctrine is proclaimed by the unanimous voice of the Brethren, and not from any one particular statement from one single individual. Perhaps we follow this line of reasoning, and feel more comfortable doing so, when accepting professional advice from a wide range of experts, such as with accepting the COVID vaccine.

Richard TarinelliJanuary 17, 2022

Thank you for an astounding peek into our most astounding physical realities. Most impressive is the manner that these facts do not intimidate our personal realm, but supports discipleship and faith in God's love.

Katrina DonaheyJanuary 17, 2022

Becky Douglas, I love you. From India to Idaho (where I live), you are about the business of blessing lives. God be thanked for you! Like you, I have discovered the transforming power of gratitude. My life is so much sweeter and so much more meaningful because of choosing daily gratitude. Thank you dear sister in Christ for another beautiful article.

Margaret BourneJanuary 17, 2022

We have a copy of Joseph Smith's Translation of Genesis 5:5 relating to the death of Adam and it doesn't vary with the King James Version "And all the days that Adam lived were 930 years and he died." See also Moses 6:12. Can you give us any reference to this revelation that says he died at 1000 years old please?

Katrina DonaheyJanuary 17, 2022

Another winner, Jacob! Your points are powerful. Collectively, we are not well positioned. Oh Father, please help us!

BillJanuary 17, 2022

A great way to teach kids about money is check it out, it really works.

DianeJanuary 17, 2022

You are beautiful and an inspiration to all women. What a great response! I can't begin to imagine why someone would say anything different or to hurt another person. No one deserves that. Thank you for your beautiful insight, your humility and gratitude.

Jo Ann OkelberryJanuary 17, 2022

I enjoyed reading this, but I felt a bit overwhelmed. I have trouble just keeping up with my own family. I cannot even visualize keeping up with billions of people, of stars, of planets, and eternities.

KatJanuary 17, 2022

I love this podcast! Such a wealth of information and insight. I wanted to read the articles that were mentioned in the podcast but when I read the transcripts I wish that the articles were linked so that I could just click on them and read them to continue my learning. If that is possible it would save lots of time copying and pasting to try and find the articles mentioned. Thanks for all the work you put into this!

Dan ShewellJanuary 17, 2022

Thank you! What marvelous insights on many levels! I see this malfunction in our national discourse as just another example of the subtlety employed by Satan to subvert, deceive and distract us into ignoring what the real questions need to be and the direction in which the real answers might be found.

Anne PrattJanuary 17, 2022

Oh yes!, It is wonderful- to be everything- to Him... Beautiful reminder of who we are and who He is!

ChrisJanuary 17, 2022

Great article Jacob. You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to see what's been happening in this country in science, healthcare, and only have to be logical. But very few people are. It continues to be amazing how fear can drive most of an entire society to abandon many of our core values and principles...simply asking honest questions is no longer allowed. Both crazy and scary...

ChrisJanuary 17, 2022

Great article...and so true! I read an article a couple of weeks ago about a massive explosion the Hubble telescope recorded that was 57 million light years away. That's mind blowing! Traveling at the speed of light we could see that "happen" 57 million years later. God's creations are unexplainable to us...

M SmithJanuary 17, 2022

Thank you! That is all many of us are asking for. Please just listen to and hear both sides. Stop the censoring. Listen to our fears of losing our freedoms. Listen to doctors and scientists on both sides of the issues. Allow discussion so that it doesn't have to divide us but can help us to find solutions. The Savior's return is nigh. Don't let this destroy testimonies. God bless all!

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Theodore BrandleyJanuary 17, 2022

When a political or financial agenda is the primary concern, truth is usually irrelevant or detrimental. Ten days after receiving the second Pfizer COVID shot, I was hit with debilitating Rheumatoid Arthritis, which continues 11 months later. Recently I asked my Rheumatologist if I should take a booster shot? He went over the pros and cons and then said, “That would have to be your decision.” If my doctor cannot advise me whether to take the vaccine how can the government presume to know what is best for me?

Albert SchindlerJanuary 17, 2022

What a wonderful and inspiring article! I have had three so-called Near-death experiences and during my experiences have witnessed many of the things you mention in this article. Yes, stand in awe — not worship: but in total, tear-inducing, speechless wonder at Creation!

Harold RustJanuary 17, 2022

A very awe-inspiring vision of the majesty of our Father in Heaven and of the infinite depth of what there is yet to learn about life and God's creations! This life is but step one in preparing us to be able to comprehend God's wonders; it will be step two to begin the creation process ourselves. Most of us are simply unaware of this potential as we wander from day to day. Thanks for nudging us from our sleep.

Janna MorrellJanuary 17, 2022

Such a beautiful and awe-inspiring article! Thank you!!

JeffJanuary 17, 2022

Fabulous read! My mind is blown! Just once again humbles me and here I sit “All Amazed” !! Thank you!

Almandos Aristides IRIGOYENJanuary 17, 2022

I read the book Visions of Glory. I think it is amazing. To have an open mind is essential. Do not forget the testimonies at the end of the book referred to similar events. I am not afraid of new perspectives, I want them and I did not find anything that offend me. 100 points to this book

Mary TarbetJanuary 17, 2022

Thank you a trillion times ! Thank you for this amazing perspective to strengthen my knowledge and understanding. Wow!

DennisJanuary 16, 2022

I am one of them who was COVID free until I received the vaccine. I consider myself healthy, with good eating habits and regular exercise. I avoided the vaccine until we were urged to get it. I am not going through a faith crisis because of it, but I discovered for myself that the vaccine was not the answer for me. I beat the sickness with ivermectin and prayer. I only wish we can listen to the voices of dissent without judgment.

Karla MenhennetJanuary 16, 2022

Thank you for sharing. My Mother had dementia for 5 years and it taught me so much. She endured terrible abuse as a child and I firmly believe that affected her deeply during her life. I put her on a natural drink called memory matrix and it helped her, but soon, I could no longer get it. The nurses were amazed how much it helped. I pray a cure can be found!

Corey D.January 16, 2022

I just now I'm seeing this story/video, it's the 16th of Jan and my immediate answer to this question is, yes ! I doubted that at one time or questioned how it could happen here in America but the last couple of years has changed my view and understanding but if there is any doubt in anybody's mind about the possibility, what has happened the last few years with covid especially in liberal run areas should erase that doubt and all doubt should be erased with what the Salt Lake Tribune Editorial Board just published today or yesterday. Trump doesn't worry me (I do hope someone else is the candidate though), the Jan 6th so-called riot doesn't worry me, a lot of things that are in the news don't worry me, what worries me is that there are people like the Tribune editorial board and people who think like they do.

Corey D.January 16, 2022

I served as the Branch President when the George Whalen Veterans home was first opened here in my area. During one of my monthly interviews with the stake president he once asked, "I hear you say when asked that it's a wonderful calling and experience, what makes it so great " ? I replied "because there is such a spirit of gratitude there, the veterans are grateful, their families thank us, the youth and their leaders who come to do Sacrament Meeting thank us, I've even had some of the staff thank us for what we do and they are the ones who should be thanked, those who work in those facilities are underpaid and underappreciated". Never met anyone who had a true deep testimony of the gospel and also wasn't a grateful person.

Linda CovellJanuary 15, 2022

Thank you for standing up in a Christlike manner. We all need to be kind to others & to ourselves.

Karla MenhennetJanuary 15, 2022

You are beautiful inside and out! Kindness is so easy and does so much for the giver and receiver. Thank you so much for showing us the way. May Every blessing be yours!

PaulineJanuary 14, 2022

What do you think of using Dr. Marshall Rosenberg’s Nonviolent Communication techniques or strategy for overcoming walls?

Kathy BlosilJanuary 14, 2022

This is an absolutely inspiring life story. A friend of mine who served with President Poecker sent me the link to this article. These stories will long remain a source of faith for me. FYI...Walter Kindt's FamilySearch profile includes his personal history broken down into chapters.

Tanya NeiderJanuary 14, 2022

Thank you, Matt! I am working on those dispelling fear and seeking truth. I appreciate your insights.

Fiona RogersJanuary 14, 2022

Whoever made that comment about you should be so lucky to be as beautiful as you. Unfortunately for them it would only be in the outside ! May you live to be as old as can be and continue to share your beauty inside and out .

KathleenJanuary 13, 2022

Your stories continue to inspire me. I have put into motion my mother's work, who passed away a year ago. (Baptism/Confirmation in Seattle Temple last weekend, our son baptizing one of our daughters, and tonight I did the initiatory work in Pocatello Temple. It will all be complete, shortly. What a joy to participate in this great work.

Margaret Y. DyalJanuary 13, 2022

I can't wait to get my copies of this great book. I saw some of the pages and I am so impressed with it. Hope that it hurries to my home.

Gwen LeglerJanuary 13, 2022

You have astounding wisdom and insight as a result of what you have experienced. I hope many women read or hear what you had to say, then they will accept others for who they really are!

Marilyn JackmanJanuary 13, 2022

Absolutely not! How can an ordinary citizen help with this effort?

Jo Ann OkelberryJanuary 13, 2022

It is hard to believe that someone would write something so cruel to another child of God, but she handled it beautifully and in a Christ-like way. The world seems to have forgotten how to be nice and kind and sweet and gentle. There is so much body-shaming in today's society. We need to love ourselves even if our bodies aren't perfect.

jJanuary 13, 2022

You're beautiful! Thank you for being okay with who you are and not bending to worldly ways! Shame on the person who said that.

Diana BinghamJanuary 13, 2022

You are a rock star and amazing. If only; if only we could all love ourselves the way we should; the way God does and they way He commanded. Bless you.

D. HillJanuary 13, 2022

Thank you Rachel for your personal story of triumph over self. You are a shining beacon to women everywhere to love and accept themselves for the beauty and light God has given them. Thank you for showing what a good husband, father and help-meet can be. We all need to encourage, lift, and inspire each other and remember we are made in our Heavenly Parents image and have inherited their characteristics.

Travus AllenJanuary 13, 2022

She is a great person with a great message. I will try to be a better man.

Jan H NielsenJanuary 13, 2022

Amen and hallelujah! Thank you for the wise and true words.

KathieJanuary 13, 2022

What a beautiful story of courage, faith, truth and wisdom. And what a beautiful daughter of Our heavenly Father you are. I am 75 and have felt like a misfit my entire life, having been bullied from Kindergarten all through high school just because I was painfully shy. Thank you for helping women see what really matters. What a great example.

Priscilla OwenJanuary 13, 2022

Fabulous...well done you. You are inspirational, an absolute gatherer.... thank you.

Jeff JohnsonJanuary 13, 2022

What a beautiful and intelligent young lady! God had a unique “recipe” when he made you! Thank you and your husband!

Susan LeggieriJanuary 13, 2022

Wow! Thanks so much for sharing your story, your words of wisdom, and your example! I believe you are blessing many lives in what you are doing. You are as beautiful as they come, inside and out. Keep being “that person”!

Scott BevanJanuary 13, 2022

What a powerful response! You are exemplary with beauty inside and out. Thank you for sharing.

StaceyJanuary 13, 2022

Love, Love, Love her!!! Thank you for being real! Thank you for being vulnerable! You are beautiful!

Patricia Hernandez ArnazziJanuary 13, 2022

You are an absolutely gorgeous young woman, with a beautiful face, hair and body, but most of all a beautiful spirit, wisdom and keen intellect which helps you very charismatically express your sentiments. Thank you for your example of tolerance, humility and forgiveness. You Rock!

Mary Ann McConkieJanuary 12, 2022

For any women who feel "less than", your article clearly illuminates the divine role of women. Thank you, Vivian.

Katherine FagerstenJanuary 12, 2022

You continue to be a light to me and a blessing. Thank you for your example, faith and light. My life is forever changed because of you. I am grateful.

MattJanuary 12, 2022

To your list of wonderful ways to find peace and hope and overcome the darkness caused by Covid, may I add these two: Dispel fear and seek truth, they will set you free.

tfJanuary 12, 2022

I think we need to start mentioning the possibility of Heavenly Mother in these types of articles and discussions.

Shawny LeeJanuary 12, 2022

Brother Harper, I think I understand that God created all things out of matter and intelligence that already existed, and that these cannot be created or made, but did God organize intelligence to create our spirits, as in "God is the Father of our spirits. We are the offspring of God." Something in your wonderful article sounded like spirits always existed. We you equating intelligence with a spirit? Did I misread something? Certainly, for me the hardest thing to comprehend is where all this began, but I love Joseph's teachings, and his invitation to come to know God, REALLY know him. I appreciated your article so much. Thank you.

Dan ShewellJanuary 11, 2022

I sure appreciated your insights! My own thought have led me to similar observations and conclusions but I am not nearly as adept at putting those ideas into words. Thank you.

MaryannJanuary 11, 2022

Love this, but I wanted it to be longer! Thank you.

Harold RustJanuary 11, 2022

Great article...but I felt it was just a prelude to what I had hoped to read regarding the biblical reflections on the broader purpose of human sexuality and why our identity is first of all that of a child of God rather than I see myself as male or as female or as something else. When that identity of our relationship with God is firm in our beliefs and our perspectives, then everything else is tied to following the commandments which God has given for all mortals regarding the fundamental purpose of procreation and family.

Colleen StoutJanuary 11, 2022

Dear Vivian, I read the other article first, and it reminded me of reading a mystery novel. You know that everything will turn out all right, but nevertheless you close the blinds and turn on all the lights. The semantics of it left me feeling dark and unsettled. Then I read yours, and I came away feeling joyful and light. Thank you, Colleen

Michele NoelJanuary 11, 2022

Thank you, Vivian! I have been following your work for thirty years and been uplifted and blessed by it. The timing of this article could not be more glorious. Just as recent TV programs, garnered as ‘doctrinal’, intimate that the origin of man can easily be embraced in the theories of Darwinism, we are gifted with clarity about our first parents here. Well done Vivian and thank you, Meridian Magazine!!!

LewisJanuary 10, 2022

What a beautiful, thought-provoking article. It requires you to think deeply about the Lord's plans for us. Surely His ways are higher than our ways. I am grateful that you take the time to share your thoughts and experiences with us.

Kay RookhuyzenJanuary 10, 2022

I found this article extremely interesting and educational! Thanks for sharing.

Jan JohnsonJanuary 10, 2022

I’ve been through a series of repeated surgeries, making life quite difficult at times… and currently. I’ve learned to be grateful that I understand God has a plan for me, and if this is His plan for me, why would I want it to be any different?

ColinJanuary 10, 2022

This was a deeply inspiring funeral service. Imagine the missionary opportunity of having current and former presidents and other government leaders hear the testimony of an Apostle and feel the Spirit in the meeting!

Helen CJanuary 10, 2022

I sent this to my non-believing husband in hopes he will discuss it with me. He loves science but sustains religion as, among other things, an excuse for war and an emotional crutch. You never know what will turn on the lights. Your Oregon friend.

Marsha AndersonJanuary 10, 2022

This has made a profound impact on me! The other things you have published here have also touched my heart. You are such a great example of a Christ-like person. Thank you!

Anita EJanuary 10, 2022

What a lovely article. Thank you for sharing and for giving greater insight into gratitude.

vickieJanuary 10, 2022

this writing is complicated to read. it sort of goes round and round. i have one son who is homosexual and married another man. yes it was hard for me when this happened. i have four other children who are not homosexual and are married to the opposite sex. my one son who is, knows that we love him but we do not understand how this can happen. i believe what God says and the family proclamation as to what is right but i also believe that a person has to make their own choices. all we feel we can do because we dont understand how this can be is love my son. to just enjoy him for his character or personhood. He is a son of God as his partner is. i respect that.

Mark StoneJanuary 9, 2022

Thanks so much! This is great. I guess I still don’t understand thought how the creation is a temple text..? Can someone explain or point me to additional resources so I can better understand??

RoxanneJanuary 9, 2022

thank you for sharing your knowledge. i have had questions answered and learnt much from this pod cast.

Jose M CapellaJanuary 8, 2022

Hello, Scot and Maurine. I have been a listener of your podcast almost since the start of Come, Follow Me, and have thoroughly enjoyed your many insights as I study the scriptures. However, I feel the need to comment on a few points in last week's discussion on the Creation. With all due respect to Hugh Nibley, he uses a rather simplistic interpretation of entropy. A wise college professor taught me that it is in fact through the amalgamation of ever more complex structures that the universe manages to catalyze its matter at an ever greater pace. The immortal Gods may have ultimate power over entropy, but they have no need to micromanage the development of the life that they nurture. Another often overwrought notion is trying to create a cosmological model with too literal an interpretation of the Biblical creation story. To imagine God personally igniting the light in the universe, then placing Earth in the Solar System, as well as the lights in the firmament, is again defining Him as a micromanager. An enlightened astronomer could easily see that the Earth and other planets would have already begun to accrete before the sun they orbited shone brightly on them. A migratory period eventually cleared dust and debris, finally settling us into a stable orbit. And from the surface of our planet, only after a very long time would the thick clouds finally part sufficiently to reveal the sun, moon and stars. I actually came to that understanding while watching the newer temple videos - go figure! Then there is the notion of fine-tuning. While a pretty sentiment, it is unfortunately used by people of little faith as "proof" of intelligent design. It reminds me of the Anthropic Principle, which is often misinterpreted to say that only a “designed” universe could have the perfect parameters for life. In fact this is meant to convey the idea that ONLY in the rare corner of the multiverse that allows life to exist can there be anyone present to wonder if it was made just for them. Those minor points aside, thank you for your commitment to helping people understand the scriptures more thoroughly. I look forward to continuing to hear from you. Also, please don't ever change your theme music, as Come Thou Fount is one of my favorites, and hearing this arrangement always fills me with anticipation and a surety that I'm about to learn something new. Take care and have a wonderful 2022.

BobJanuary 8, 2022

Don't show up at their house if there is an emergency.

Corey DJanuary 8, 2022

Excellent. Reminds me of the story a college professor told our class one evening, seems an employee at a large company wanted to prove the point that nobody paid any attention to the constant stream of memos, announcements, policy changes, etc, especially the ones filled with acronyms that flowed down from upper management and that vice versa was true that management never paid attention to reports, memos, etc that flowed up. This employee proceeded to write a totally made up memo really embellished it, seems it made it all the way to the President before anybody questioned anything in it.

MaryannJanuary 8, 2022

I am wondering what you have said to your parents to make them believe you feel they "have gone down the road of fanaticism." Sounds like there is criticism going on here on both sides. I am wondering if it would help heal these "troubled waters" if you show forth an increase of love for your parents and come to an agreement that this is just not a subject that you want to discuss. Then change the subject and talk about something you think they would be interested in.

MayJanuary 8, 2022

Fantastic response to a common question. Thank you!

Gregg LukeJanuary 8, 2022

THANK YOU SO MUCH, Jennie. I am overjoyed you liked Red Cicada. Being more of a discovery writer than a hard-core plotter, it was a thrill to write. Thank you for the great review!

L RawlinsonJanuary 7, 2022

Do you have the first hand account of Warren Foote from his journal? He and his father visited Joseph Smith, saw the mummies and saw the papyri and gave a limited description of the writing.

Boyd TuttleJanuary 7, 2022

I want to say this was excellent. Well-written, interesting, and remarkably well-researched article. Thanks for all those insights, Brother Bradshaw. This treatise has enhanced, for me, this year's study in the Old Testament immeasurably.

Shirley GriffinJanuary 7, 2022

He also mentioned "worlds without number" that were created--at a time when that concept was not even considered by men of science.

Ron BarnesJanuary 7, 2022

Part of the reason some Americans think socialism is so good is because they mistake social programs for socialism. All governments have social programs in some form or another, but socialism is something totally different. They need to be educated as to what socialism actually is. I noticed, while reading the comments, the only disagreements concerned health care. While our system has its problems, it does have advantages that other systems don't.

Pennie KnottJanuary 7, 2022

Thank you for your research, books and articles on this subject. I have never been able to figure out what all the fuss was about regarding the Book of Abraham. A real tempest in a teapot.

Ann-Marie JensenJanuary 7, 2022

Thank you for such excellent and helpful clarification.

Emily Jensen PorfiriJanuary 6, 2022

Amen. My experience (Romania, Poland, Italy, has shown me the same thing.

Theodore BrandleyJanuary 6, 2022

To paraphrase one of Euclid’s geometry axioms, things equal to the same thing are equal to each other. If we are all in tune with the Holy Ghost, we will all be in tune with each other.

SpanishbakerJanuary 6, 2022

Inspiring. From personal experience, I know that if we sincerely ask Heaven what that “unity” looks like, Heaven will show us. We don’t have to compromise our identities when our values/perceptions conflict. Heaven WANTS to teach us how a Zion people behaves. We have to be willing to submit.

Darlene NelsonJanuary 6, 2022

I am a Canadian and have been served well by our socialized medical plan. Your example from two friends didn’t give the true story of the Canadian Health Care system. I’m not saying it’s perfect, but our family would have been bankrupted dealing with my health care issues had I been a resident of the USA. Using that example doesn’t give credence to your article.

John R CarpenterJanuary 6, 2022

More inhumanity to man, since 1918, has been done in the name of Socialism than any other cause. Socialism is NOT Freedom, it is control of the people.

George NielsenJanuary 6, 2022

Thank you for confirming the conclusion I reached independently about the character for Righteousness. I often contemplate this character as I look at my CTR ring that uses it to represent choosing the right. It deepens my understanding of Christ's atonement and how the Lamb of God can overcome my natural, defensive, nature. I served in Taiwan from 1966 through 1968.

George NielsenJanuary 6, 2022

Thank you so much for confirming the conclusion I came to independently many years ago about "Righteousness." I often contemplate the meaning of this character as I look at my CTR ring that uses it to represent Choosing the Right. It deepens my understanding of Christ's atonement. I served in Taiwan from 1966 through 1968.

Laurel Lee PedersenJanuary 6, 2022

Powerful lesson on these concepts, Diana! I'm keeping a pdf copy to study again. Thanks so much!

RitaJanuary 6, 2022

This gives a new context for "a new heart", found in Ezekiel and other OT verses. When God creates in us a new heart and spirit, He is bringing order to disorder, making a temple fit for His presence. I never thought about it that way before.

John WaitingJanuary 6, 2022

Thank you Mark for an interesting look at these topics

Sally SmithJanuary 6, 2022

After reading this article, I can feel the love of Bro Goddard as he writes this. I knew him when I lived in the North Little Rock Stake. This is the eternal answer to my divine identity. I am so happy to better understand who I really am.

Roberta HarrisJanuary 6, 2022

As a Canadian I can assure you I have never had to wait for any medical services and that goes for ALL of my family and friends over all of my adult years!! We have excellent doctors all over our country. I am disappointed at the slant your article took on our health care system.

Gary SmithJanuary 6, 2022

I am curious about the Canadian hospital shut down in 1993. I was living in Canada then and live in Canada now and do not remember that "Canada closed all hospitals". In fact that doesn't make sense, since each province runs its own health system. Perhaps one of the provinces temporarily cut back services at their hospitals but I don't remember it happening. Wait times for some surgeries are a problem and some provinces have more difficulties than others. On the other hand, I have never had to wait, here in Canada, more than 15 minutes after the appointment time for the doctor to see me. In fact, just this last monday, the doctor was ready for me 15 minutes before the appointment time. When living in Provo, my wife routinely would have to wait 30 to 90 minutes past the appointment time to see the doctor. Of course these are just anecdotes and don't paint the whole picture.

Karell BinghamJanuary 6, 2022

Such a great article! A real eye opener! Thank you so much, I love you both!

RobertJanuary 6, 2022

When discussing socialism/communism it is important to mention the deaths that are the result of the implementation of those systems of "government." Under Hitler's National Socialists in Germany/Hungary, etc, my father-in-law had his entire family murdered in the concentration camps. I knew a man who lost all his relatives in the Ukraine under the direction of Stalin. If in the United States, if we continue to permit our march towards socialism/communism, I think we will see similar results.

Iam Con CernedJanuary 6, 2022

This article seems so logical, but in fact, it isn't what people want to hear. Today, people want to hear how someone else (the government) should provide everything they thought they need FOR them: Health care? Should be a right, not something you buy. Opposing opinions? Should be regulated lest someone disagree. Gun ownership? Should only be in the hands of the police or military, not, heaven-forbid, my next-door neighbor. Morality and LGBTQ issues. Should be that no one judges anyone for we're all equal and there is no wrong. And the list goes on-and-on, seemingly so very logical and desirable on the outside, but fraught with difficulties as Brother Stoddard so aptly represents. I am concerned that in our rush to not be judgmental, we have forgotten that we must, --absolutely must-- judge and make judgments each and every day lest we fall for perverse and unethical scoundrels who are more than happy to lead the foolish and whomever else along.

John PearceJanuary 6, 2022

While I agree with the overall statements in this article I question how good the health system is in the USA The cost is enormous High cost, not highest quality. Despite spending far more on healthcare than other high-income nations, the US scores poorly on many key health measures, including life expectancy, preventable hospital admissions, suicide, and maternal mortality. And for all that expense, satisfaction with the current healthcare system is relatively low in the US. People can be bankrupted by the cost of health issues and many people order their medications from over countries because of the high cost here. My own daughter even though she was insured is still paying off for her surgery many years later.

Maria ClaytonJanuary 6, 2022

I have met many in the church who tell me that living in a communist country has its benefits… Sorry to burst their bubble but if you have never lived in a communist country you have no idea… The sacrifices each individual goes through everyday to survive for even a line to receive a loaf of bread… And much more Thank You for your article Hospitals that look so amazing is for those in the regime… But for the everyday people it is not… They only show the best when you are visiting but go to the real areas in different neighborhoods you will have a rude awakening… Our Parents left Cuba for The United States of America the Land of the Free!!! I still remember how we were treated when we were leaving Cuba My Parents were treated horribly they would throw rocks eggs etc. by the committee in our neighborhood, they had 6 of the Regime come to our home to take inventory because they tell you everything belongs to the Country as well 2 were waiting at the car 2 at the front of our home and 2 came in our home we had 2 luggage and when one of the guards saw the second he said only one luggage you are allowed to take they took my parents wedding rings and said that belongs to the country they took my doll and took it apart looking for jewelry which the doll was empty they did not care they took inventory of everything in our home then the drove us to the actual stairs of the Airplane (Freedom Flights 1970) I still remember the Pilot going around the Cuban Island and my Father reading in his broken English the Constitution of the United States of America The Land of the Free Never take Freedom for granted!!! This is Gods country Cherish it and do not allow no one to destroy it by any ideology…

Robert CowartJanuary 6, 2022

Thanks for the LIGHT. Great job.

Mark MathesonJanuary 3, 2022

I like the idea I heard recently that too often we mislabel anxiety. What is just the normal stress of life we too quickly call it out as anxiety.

DeAnn JensonJanuary 3, 2022

I love your podcasts for content and spirit. So informative and so well spoken. But, partly and importantly, I like to make a printed copy o f the script to study and underline important contributions so that I can refer back at times to refresh my memory. I have four binders each one for a year of Come Follow Me lessons. But, today, to my dismay, when I printed this podcast, eacg page was covered by a picture of the Old Testament Calendar rendering the page unreadable. I am a subscribing member and hope this can be remedied.

Jo Ann OkelberryJanuary 3, 2022

Thank you so much for this article. My husband had dementia, and he wasn't as difficult as you describe your mother, he really had become a different person or persons. I am sending this article to a friend whose husband has dementia. Perhaps it will help her.

Jo Ann OkelberryJanuary 3, 2022

I really learned a lot from this article. Thank you.

Helmut WorleJanuary 3, 2022

This is extremely valuable (and new to me; after membership in the Church for well over 50 years). I had often wondered in my younger years why the temple endowment spends so much time retelling a story with which we are all very familiar. Similarly, I had puzzled over a statement supposedly made by president McKay toward the end of his life indicating that he was only just beginning to understand the temple ceremonies. Thank you for clearing some things up. I've just celebrated my 74th birthday and I believe I may just be beginning to get a glimpse of understanding the temple and the scriptures a little more. Thank heavens that there is indeed an eternity before me to grow and learn.

Craig FrogleyJanuary 3, 2022

Excellent, true, and most significant. Thank you!!

Becky L RoseJanuary 3, 2022

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ShaunaJanuary 3, 2022

Thank you Br. Degn. I still don't understand all of what you said but it helped shift my paradigm, or ideological or cultural lens as you call it, for understanding the Creation narratives. I'm excited to begin our study of the Pearl of Great Price, Old Testament this year, and of course this pertains to understanding Temple experiences.

Linda Starr WinansJanuary 3, 2022

Great job expounding valuable concepts. Your approach was thorough and well thought out. This is a great article to share with others, especially those of different faiths! Thanks!!!

Gary ArnellJanuary 3, 2022

Great read. Thank you!

Alan Forbes FlemingJanuary 2, 2022

Enjoyed your article. How coincidental for I just finished reading "Leadership in War from Lincoln to Churchill" by Correlli Barnett, and have just started reading a comparative biography of "Lincoln & Churchill" by Lewis E. Lehrman. My office/study has apart from pictures of my family, the Saviour, Joseph Smith, and Pres. Nelson, my only other pictures are of Lincoln, Churchill, and Don Bradman. All studies in leadership. (ps I had lunch with Don Bradman and he signed the photo, that's why he's there! Also, because he was the world's greatest cricketer).

KathleenJanuary 1, 2022


watkahJanuary 1, 2022

Isn't it interesting that every plan to harm the Church by the Adversary is turned upon him. The transparency issue brought up at the time of these forgeries perhaps informed the Church to be especially open and transparent about the Joseph Smith History project.

Nancy NewmanDecember 31, 2021

It seems every week i have trouble finding the written script for the podcast. Is there some way you can connect it to the week before so we can click on a arrow, picrture, date something to go straight to the lesson. We love the lessons and we three sisters in 3 different states read them together. Help

Chuck SanfordDecember 31, 2021

I thank you for your podcast, and for the work you both do on your website. This is one of the ways I try to keep on top of things. My precious `15-yo grand-daughter was recently diagnosed with Leukemia[; that is where my focus is right now.. Again, thanks.

Sarah HinzeDecember 31, 2021

Thanks for the inspiring article!

Kay RookhuyzenDecember 30, 2021

We have listened to your podcasts for the previous two years. This was indeed a rip roaring beginning of our study of this wondrous group of scripture! Thank you so much!

frankieboyDecember 30, 2021

at my daughters Catholic elementary school in southern CA they did an event for the 5th grade class "Taste of America", where each kid had to bring a dish from the state they were assigned. All the kids who were assigned Utah brought Jello dishes. I guess stereotypes die hard :)

Kay RookhuyzenDecember 30, 2021

As usual your writing inspires me and makes me want to BE BETTER. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I LOVE your column.

Carolyn MadsonDecember 30, 2021

Thank you for the reminder of another year of wonderful articles that added clarity to a world of confusing and sometimes harsh commentary. I look forward to once again reading them.

MargaretDecember 30, 2021

Thank you for these words it has helped to see things about i have not considered before

KathleenDecember 29, 2021

Thank you for good reminders through great examples and in an inspiring way.

Patty BrightDecember 29, 2021

Thank you for sharing! This info motivates me.

KathleenDecember 29, 2021

Kudos to 'Santa!'

Old AbeDecember 29, 2021

Let's see. Ronald P. Millett thinks Christ was born on a passover in the BoM year 92. That would have been the 14th of Nisan, the year being 14 days old. Since the Nephites kept the law of Moses, proper dating was important. Nonetheless Jesus Christ died on the forth day of Nisan according to 3 Nephi 8:5. So the Nephite calender somehow was 10 days off. How is that possible using a lunisolar calendar? Differing one day is possible, but 10 days is not. In any case - if Christ was born on 14th Nisan, everything that is written about in 3 Nephi 1:4-13 happened in thirteen days. Aw, come on!

Jo Ann OkelberryDecember 29, 2021

This is a very informative and powerful article. I have never thought abortion was right, and this article really backs up my belief. Thank you.

Jo Ann OkelberryDecember 29, 2021

You have written some great one-liners. I especially liked, "Satan likes to masquerade as God."

Ben JonesDecember 29, 2021

A few days before Christmas, my wife got a call from a friend at Church who had to go to the emergency room and was worried about her 93-year-old mother, whom she had been taking care of. My wife organized a number of Sisters to help her accomplish the thankless task of dealing with a 93-year-old with dementia, exhausting herself in the process for several days. I exclaimed, "There are those who complain, 'Why doesn't the church help out?' They don't realize, the Church is YOU !" Which is to say that all those who are encouraged and organized by the Church to go about doing good, are the Church.

CarolDecember 29, 2021

Thank you for writing such great stories, I never miss reading your stories even when I pass on all the others! You never preach, just always have a point that touches my heart and helps me come unto Christ.

KathleenDecember 28, 2021

Thank you for that rip roaring start. I was having trouble transitioning from the Doctrine and Covenants. Now we're off and running!

Ann SiggardDecember 28, 2021

When I was in Qingdao, China teaching English with the BYU China Teachers Program, one day during the Christmas season my co-teacher and I went shopping at the mall and there were Christmas trees and lights everywhere and over the the loud speaker, in English, was the hymn "O Holy Night"! And...there was snow falling, which was also rare. It was a magical moment in a country that did not allow us to proseletyze and we were allowed to feel the magic and Spirit there!

HelenDecember 28, 2021

Merry Christmas and a FANTASTIC New Year, Doctor Dan!

Leah ThompsonDecember 27, 2021

This is an excellent article. I have been thinking lately about fence laws and principles and these thoughts have helped me better understand the how to use principles to help me live the gospel better. I love how you clarify that Pharisaical thinking is focused on how they can excuse their own disobedience and lower standards for themselves NOT hold others to a higher and holier way of living.

Troy WilliamsDecember 27, 2021

This is very well written! I read multiple articles last week about Mr. Green and his departure from the church. Each of them, as you mentioned, were so one-sided. But isn’t that typical for the majority of today’s media. I’m grateful that more truth was shared through your article. People need to see that the church and more importantly the people within the church are doing good things around the world. We are not perfect… But neither is anyone else. Merry Christmas

al barrettDecember 27, 2021

Excellent article. Scatter radar is more accurate and less susceptible to weather and technical issues than gps.

DJDecember 27, 2021

Beautiful arrangement beautifully sung and put together! Thanks for sharing your talents and message!

DonnaDecember 27, 2021

What a wonderful collection of Nativities Sam and Carol Raines accumulated! Thanks for sharing this event. Even though Sam is "gone", his goodness and sharing will go on and on blessing those who will see his nativities. Thanks for posting!

Don McClureDecember 27, 2021

Is climate change having a significant impact on the icebergs?

MJ Darnel IIDecember 26, 2021

Some parts of this may provide some possible perspective, but remember this cuts both ways. The husband could actually be a controlling, narcissistic momma’s boy. And that would deem be considered abusive. And as a marriage counselor only see similar behaviors get worse over time. Verbal and psychological abuse can weigh a heavy burden for a spouse to carry by themselves. Yes the red flags as another commentedsuch as “ he will miss me” as an excuse stands out. ‘

Douglas E NadybalDecember 26, 2021

Suicides amongst males in the United States is triple the rate of females and that is not atypical for the rest of the world. Any article that fails to shine light on this gender disparity is of no more worth than a review of a restaurant that glosses over the quality of the food on the menu. To talk about the altitude as a causative factor deftly takes the reader around the issue while giving cover Utah and the Church. How about we discuss what on earth we are doing to our male populations?

ConcernedDecember 26, 2021

I enjoyed this well written article in response to Mr. Green’s public leaving of the Church. I really hate it when folks leave the Church; I worry for their souls and the souls of their posterity and friends. They know not what they do. Years ago I read this little booklet written by Truman Madsen entitled,”Christ and the Inner Life”. In it he tells the story of when he was a bishop and a recent RM announces to him he is leaving the Church. Bishop Madsen then follows with an probing quick list of questions to the RM. “Do you feel the spirit when you partake of the sacrament? Do you feel the spirit as you study the Book of Mormon? Do you feel the spirit when you pray? Do you feel the spirit when you go and ponder in the Celestial room after an endowment session? Etc etc” The RM answers no to all of the questions and actually states he does not read the Book of Mormon nor go to the temple or come to Church. Bishop Madsen then tells him he never was “in” the Church to which the RM complains and reports that he had served in all these callings as a YM and had served a mission. To which Bishop Madsen pointed out that he (Bishop Madsen) always felt the spirit when doing those things and worked to feel the spirit. Well, he challenges (can we say that?) the RM to read the Book of Mormon every day, pray and go to Church and seek the spirit. He does and he changes. Beethoven commented he wished he could be like Mozart and be “drenched” in music. When we are baptized we are drenched.

Deeper seekerDecember 25, 2021

I recently learned of another exciting insight to add to this beautiful article. I may have some of the details a tad off, so correct and forgive my errors, but as I understood it, the shepherds would have been the shepherds that cared for the sheep that were used for the temple sacrifices in Jerusalem. They would take the first born male lambs and clean them off in a manger with special swaddling cloths given them by the temple priests. Those special lambs were for passover. Jesus IS the passover lamb. When the shepherds saw Jesus in a manger (it would have been stone) wrapped in swaddling clothes used for sacrificial lambs prepared for sacrifice, that was how they knew HE, the baby, was the fulfillment of Isaiah 53. That is why it was a sign to them.

AJ CurrieDecember 25, 2021

As Elder Bruce R. McConkie sais in one of his most famous General Conference talks, "...the caravan moves on."

Craig WoodfordDecember 24, 2021

I have learned, through sad experience, that the adversary chooses this traditionally festive time of year to distract us from celebrating the birth of our saviour, Jesus Christ's. The devil and those who follow him are bitter, petty creatures because they know their story ends in misery and woe. They strive to make all miserable like unto themselves. Let's not make their story ours. Let us rather look to Christ, learn of him and do his works in blessing the lives of all around us.

BonnieDecember 24, 2021


DonnaDecember 24, 2021

We LOVE your nativities! I wish we could see them all. We too have traveled and collected a few precious nativities that bring joy when we get them out. Consider showing us more of your nativities in a future addition! Thank you for the gift of your newsletter all year, which reminds me, it's time to contribute. Merry Christmas!

Sasha W KwapinskiDecember 24, 2021

It's interesting how those who believe that the LDS Church should become "politically correct" have apparently forgotten that those religious denominations which have gone the politically correct route are the ones which have been declining the fastest (not only in percentages, but in actual numbers ranging up into the millions) for well over half a century. I was around during the 1960's to see the beginnings of that trend, and I was a part of that "out-migration."

Denise Blackburn ChristensenDecember 24, 2021

oh how I loved looking at your Nativities! Thanks so much for sharing. They are beautiful and the one from Germany brings back memories of our recent trip and watching you and Maurine joyfully purchasing gifts for your children and grandchildren. Merry Christmas!

Raymond Takashi SwensonDecember 24, 2021

How in the world does this non-event qualify as "news"? The only reason for news media to publicize his statement is that they worship the wealthy. They are publicists for the expensively dressed great and spacious building crowd that ridicules the humble followers of Jesus Christ. Their actions demonstrate their fear of the effectiveness of millions of Latter-day Saint Christians who demonstrate daily that there is a powerful alternative to the self-appointed elites who denigrate the intelligence and integrity of those who do not worship the rich and influential. They do not believe in actual democracy, but use the word hypocritically like Lenin and Stalin to justify their control of the allegedly ignorant masses of people.

KathleenDecember 24, 2021

Thank you for bringing it all closer through your beautiful sound.

LindaDecember 23, 2021

From the book Beloved Bridegroom by Donna Nielson: Meanwhile, the bride was also busy making preparations for her future and the new life she would share with her husband. There was wedding clothing to prepare, including much elaborate colorful embroidery. Swaddling bands were also to be embroidered with symbols indicating family history and genealogy. According to ancient and modern custom, the embroidery, to be acceptable, must be exactly the same on both sides. This was a type showing that the outward life and the inner life were the same-they were never to have a "wrong side" to their character. Under the wedding canopy, these decorated bands would be tied around the clasped right hands on the bride and groom; hence the saying, "They tied the knot." These bands would later be used to fasten the swaddling clothes of their children. Nielsen, DOnna. Beloved Bridegroom . Onyx Press. Kindle Edition. Location 551

JonDecember 23, 2021

I love this article. Made me think of teaming up with my ancestors. Kind of like missionary companions helping each other out on both sides of the veil.

CASDecember 23, 2021

This was absolutely delightful.

Paul HDecember 23, 2021

And yet how many artists paint the new-born infant naked? Even the painting for this story has Him with bare shoulders and chest. And of course the Wise Men never appeared at the manger either, but that's a whole different subject. Thanks for the information in this article.

AEatonDecember 23, 2021

Great article and a much needed voice to break through the confusion of the day.

Irene BlackDecember 23, 2021

Wonderful article!! Thanks for your insights and stories. I am alone this Christmas and you touched me deeply. Merry Christmas.

James ScottDecember 23, 2021

Yours is a very interesting and maybe significant essay. Certainly a good study. I wouldn’t wonder that in preparation for the birth Mary may have decorated some of the swaddling strips with embroidery or symbols of the tribe of Judah or even woven with Judah’s colors for certain wrapping positions, the head piece for example. A Star of David may have been too bold but she knew he was David’s heir. Today’s receiving blankets seem to be for the same purpose and are colored for the gender, blue and pink. We think white, but linen would have been a poor cloth for warmth, more likely wool therefore earth colors. Thanks again for your thoughtful contribution.

Pennie knottDecember 23, 2021

Mr. Green is so annoying. If he thinks his money makes him smarter or more special than the rest of us, he is wrong. What sets him apart is his purposeful effort to harm the work of the Lord. If he thinks he and his billions can do that he is wrong again. It’s a sad thing to kick against the pricks and pit yourself against the Almighty. I would not want to be him.

Patricia WintersDecember 23, 2021

Thank you so very much for this article, and for printing the transcript! It is very early in the morning now, and I don't want to wake my husband, who has health issues and is asleep a few feet from me. Being able to receive the content of this article without sound is a great blessing. I'm sure that Deaf persons appreciate this as well.

ObserverDecember 22, 2021

Phenomenal! Carry on!

MaryannDecember 22, 2021

Love it! Definitely the FIRST ONE!

LynnDecember 22, 2021

Beautiful article Mariah! Your perspective reinforces that God's ways are not man's ways. God seems to love a paradox--and there are so many examples in His plan.

karell binghamDecember 22, 2021

I absolutely loved the insights from "The Trill of Hope...! There is one scripture that kept coming to mind, one that I just love: "He telleth the number of the stars: he calleth them all by their names." I always think to myself when I read that, "If he even knows the name of all those stars, surely he knows his children, even me. I might have come across that scripture by reading one of your tremendous editorials, but I sure love what it implies!

T. BarrettDecember 22, 2021

Thank you, Brother Givens. Your words are always like rain in a desert to my soul.

EveDecember 21, 2021

Very thought provoking. Thank you!

Taressa E.December 21, 2021

I am again inspired by your words. Thank you Brother Callister!! The world would like us to think that being compassionate is to lower our expectations, give people a break, not put demands on others or reduce requirements for select groups. Thank you for reminding us that it is truly LOVE, COMPASSION and RESPECT for others when expections are set, the bar remains high, and we believe in their alitities to succeed! I am grateful for parents, leaders, teachers and friends that helped me achieve hard things and didn't make it easier but supported and believed in me! That is love. That is compassion.

Susan RatherDecember 21, 2021

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Reid EverettDecember 21, 2021

Very interesting and stimulating thoughts. Perhaps in the modern church, the familial or surname is more important than the given name when blessing infants. My familial name has generations of honor and goodwill attached to it that I have tried to grow into, support and sustain.

Pennie knottDecember 21, 2021

Very well said. I have her book. She is to be admired for her courage.

Patty ListonDecember 21, 2021

I am in awe of the truth and beauty of your words. Thank you for affirming the great gift of a name and the profound Joy of being able to take upon us His.

Deana BradenDecember 20, 2021

Beautiful! Thank you for sharing!

David CormackDecember 20, 2021

Great article! I have another thought on the Crown of Thorns. It was a sign of Christ breaking the curse set in Garden of Eden so the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.

Kent PorterDecember 20, 2021

I appreciate the insights and also thought of the shepherds who watched the flocks of sheep. I understand a protective ring of thorn bushes (thorns) would be made to protect the flock from the wolves or other predators that may try to get at them during the dark hours of night or rest. It came to me we might look at thorns as being "protective" as we learn of their potential with life's experiences and can use such lesson to avoid the many "predators"trying to get at us as we continue the "good race". It's good to know both edges of the sword in order to avoid being "cut" too deeply.

Sonja ErvinDecember 20, 2021

The lovely song was beautifully sung! Such a pleasure to hear it and yes, it definitely brightened my day! Thank you for sharing your talents.

AllisonDecember 20, 2021

Since Passover was and is celebrated in the spring, the leaves would be freshly opened on the crown of thorns tree.

karell binghamDecember 20, 2021

Perhaps one could say that the thorns were a symbol of the fall of man. That being said the crown of thorns that the Savior had on his head could very well mean that He took upon him our mortality as well as our sins.

Oakley EatonDecember 20, 2021

Beautiful Christmas rendition of ‘Far Away’ It makes the Savior feel so close. Thank you Elders and Sisters. Love this!

J. DicksonDecember 20, 2021

The myrrh tree may very well have been the source for the crown of thorns. Googling “myrrh” will result in images of the tree’s cruelty thorny branches. If so, this would make yet another gift of the wise men extremely symbolic and prophetic.

JobDecember 19, 2021

Thank you Brother McCallaster for this excellent article! Have a great day.

Anna PowellDecember 19, 2021

Lovely, just lovely, thank you!

BeraDecember 19, 2021

Very inspiring article. The Lord indeed will not forsake us, even in our times of trial and affliction. Thank you for reminding us.

Maryann TaylorDecember 18, 2021

What beautiful advice! This is applicable for everyone beyond the subject of infidelity. We can allow our sad emotions and thoughts to flow past us without vigorously fighting them. We can call upon our Savior to help us put them in proper perspective and to let them go.

Cyndi H.December 17, 2021

Excellent article! We have the divine abilities to become as our Heavenly Father and Mother, but, we need to rise to our capacity and potential. Expecting less doesn't help anyone in this life or the next!

Gary OliverDecember 17, 2021

Geoff, having experienced a very similar thing in my life (for over 40 years) I am amazed at how inciteful and helpful is your counsel. "Loose ends" are most difficult to endure and resolve while grieving. Please continue to "lift the hands and [heads] that hang down" and dry as many tears as you can.

Marla SmakaDecember 17, 2021

I totally agree with everything in this piece. There have been many, many articles written in the old Ensign, and I remember only one article that spoke of the absolute joy of children receiving material gifts at Christmas.

WendyDecember 17, 2021

This is so totally appropriate in the USA today. I want to exceed my own expectations after reading it, and I’m 74!

BlueDecember 16, 2021

Your mind and spirit are so beautiful. Thank you for the example of both these traits that you exhibit so consistently.

Maryann TaylorDecember 15, 2021

My husband is certain that we were close before coming to earth and that our marriage was decided there. I would like to believe that--however, there are just too many variables. People die in accidents or wars who never had the chance to marry. People marry and divorce, then marry and divorce again. There is just too much human error, and also events we cannot control, for me to believe that EVERY relationship was foreordained. On the other hand, I think we did have SOME choice about the family relationships that would be formed here, especially children and parents. Then again, some people may have chosen to have 5 children in the premortal realm and when faced with limited resources only had 3. Those other two children have to go somewhere, right? Again--too many human variables. I DO very much look forward to being reunited with all my friends and the people I was close to in my premortal life. I won't be surprised at all to find I interacted with them both in the premortal world and on earth.

HalDecember 15, 2021

Thank you for this article! I have often felt I knew someone the instant I met them. My hope is I can look at each person I meet and think "I may have known this person in my pre-mortal life."

RPDecember 15, 2021

I have always known that this is the case. More recently I have come to understand that we had close siblings in the Pre-earth life. When I was seventeen I became good friends with someone through seminary. Then we went our separate ways to college and then marriage. I didn't talk to her for 30 years. Then she came back into my life and ended up being a Personal Care Attendant for a couple of my disabled children. Having her at my house nearly every day has been a total joy. The really funny thing was that right from the beginning, even after 30 years, we had similar quirks. We could tell what the other one was thinking and our opinions on most everything were the same. It drives our children a bit crazy when we are together. We prayed about it and both received a confirmation that not only were we siblings in the same household, but that we were twin spirits - sent to separate households on earth to help the people in those families. Heavenly Father brought us back together at a time when we both desperately needed each others support.

Ron BarnesDecember 15, 2021

Ever since I was rather young, I always knew that there was one woman that I was destined to marry. When I asked my future wife for a date, I wasn't really interested in her, I just needed a date. The day after that first date I began telling people that I had found the girl I was destined to marry. We were both 17. I have always honestly believed that we arranged it before we were born.

Maryann TaylorDecember 14, 2021

My husband's humor has saved me from feeling weighed down on many occasions. Laughing together has brought so much joy to our marriage. It is so easy to take ourselves too seriously. Humor dispels gloom and gives us a fresh perspective. We focus so much on the topic of adversity in church discussions---sometimes I think it is overkill. We need to lift up our hearts and rejoice more.

Linda WillisDecember 14, 2021

Speaking of gifts, thank you for this thought provoking article that rings so true to those stumbling along the path to exaltation. The vision you share and the honesty in which you reveal yourself gives us seekers of Jesus some additional light. Love your sense of humor, your mind, and your heart. Your words have touched my soul.

MaryannDecember 14, 2021

One of my favorite scriptures is 2 Ne 2:2 where Lehi reassures his son, Jacob. "...thou knowest the greatness of God; and he shall consecrate thine afflictions for thy gain." No matter how difficult our challenges may be, our Heavenly Father can bring about miracles to bless us. As so many of us are seeing some of our children wandering away from the gospel path, we can have a hope in Christ that he will continue to call after them and that miracles can occur to help them return.

C. SavageDecember 14, 2021

Well said Brother Teichert. It is good to read articles like this one, reminding us that when we walk through the valleys of heartache and disappointment, we are still walking, moving forward. The valleys are temporary. Your insight reminds us to keep our eternal perspective in all things. Thank you.

LewisDecember 14, 2021

What beautiful thoughts! As I reflect on the life of the Savior, it was a life of giving, of service and of love. Sometimes I think we can get all wrapped up in the minutia of doctrine, or law, or tradition, and lose sight of the purity and beauty of his life. Thank you for reminding us.

Kay CoxDecember 14, 2021

I enjoyed this article and loved the comparison of pacemaker and peacemaker. I do enjoy all of your articles. You have a unique perspective that causes me to ponder and ask questions. Thank you for your insights.

PatDecember 14, 2021

While you are very much an earthling, your words are very much heavenly. This article is beyond beautiful, just as those you have previously written wor Meridian Magazine. Thank you so much.

JulieDecember 14, 2021

I really really like this. I have found it to be oh so true in my life. Thank you for sharing.

Joy LundbergDecember 13, 2021

Thank you for this inspiring article. Bless you for all the good you bring into the world. My prayers are with you and all those who serve others in need. You are not "trying to be like Jesus", you ARE being like Jesus.

Claudia Henderson SmithDecember 13, 2021

This is a wonderful article with lots of great quotations from General Authorities. We're having a problem with a child who wants to change gender, and it's been very difficult for us. However, we love her even though we do not accept her decision to change. Thanks for sharing this with us.

Richard EastwoodDecember 13, 2021

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Claudia Henderson SmithDecember 13, 2021

Wonderful article. The book by Arduini must be very interesting. I wonder if it's been translated into English. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us.

Ron BarnesDecember 13, 2021

The more knowledge a person has, the greater their capacity for finding humor. Having ultimate knowledge, exalted beings would have an ultimate sense of humor. They would laugh at things that we don't, and they would not laugh at things that we do.

Elizabeth SmithDecember 13, 2021

Thanks, Gary. I needed a chuckle today.

KCDecember 12, 2021

Yes, it would make things much cheaper and easier, more convenient and I believe the young would feel more understood. The elderly may have a more difficult time w/it because learning a new language late in life is tougher. I've observed over the years the deaf community is fiercely protective of itself. I've been told by deaf persons that they are a unique group, one that doesn't let in outsiders. The understanding was they are not disintegrated from society at large. They said because of their condition they understand the world so very differently than the rest of us, they would not want to be integrated and lose what makes them special--their unique way of experiencing/processing the world. I've lived with deaf individuals and taken ASL classes, I applaud the efforts but I know some deaf persons who might balk at them.

MaryannDecember 12, 2021

I am confused as to how he is hoarding if he won't "spend a dime."?? However, I agree with Bro. Steurer that hoarding is difficult to treat. We have acquaintances who ended their marriage because of this issue. I hope this woman will think long and hard before committing herself.

Rosalie E. StoneDecember 12, 2021

The way that you developed the idea of "The Articles of Faith" being a call to action as well as a statement of beliefs is so beautifully energizing! I'm grateful that I can use daily repentance to help me follow the practical suggestions you offered for each one––because I know I will often fall short. But I will persevere, feeling certain that those suggestions will help me to be more sensitive to spiritual promptings that can bring blessings those around me as well as myself. Thank you for this inspiring Sunday school lesson!

MarkDecember 11, 2021

Some of the comments to this story are so clueless it is painful to read them. Reducing women to body parts? How about just recognizing that breasts, legs, and derrieres are visually stimulating to men. Remember, we didn't wake up one morning and think to ourselves, boy, I'd sure think it would be great to involuntarily give a significant chunk of my self-control to any reasonably attractive woman who wants to dress immodestly. Our visual sex drive came from Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother but that doesn't matter to modern women because they really aren't into reality, they think they can make things be what they want them to be. So, men are supposed to learn how to see female immodesty and still have self-control. Great, but forget about getting married--yes, most men aren't getting married if their sex drive doesn't push them to it. What children and a husband to help raise those children. Then be glad men have a visually based sex drive. It is a kindness to men who are interested in chastity to dress modestly and to do otherwise is proud, arrogant, and shows that you don't care what God thinks about it all. Yes, men can control their thoughts--but for most of us, that consists of avoiding women who are dressed immodestly. Typically, if a man can avoid being aroused to one degree or another by an immodest woman, it is because he consumes pornography on a regular basis and has difficulty being aroused in a normal manner.

MaureenDecember 11, 2021

Good answers and advice Jeff. I live with and next door to hoarders, both of whom have, because of those they live with, learned to curb, or at least partition their "stuff" to their own space. If he's really got lots of money, too, a separate storage or even apartment, just for his accumulations ought to be easy enough to arrange. But it's probably the bigger issues of OCD, etc. that aren't as easily tucked away and may cause friction in closer, longer interaction. Good chance, at this age, the emotional/mental issues underlying the hoarding aren't going away, even if the clutter gets managed. I'd check out the veracity of the vast wealth, too. Somehow, I doubt it.

Harold RustDecember 11, 2021

This newspaper clipping is a reminder that there are so many "stories behind the story" regarding those who lived several generations ago. Imagine the details of such a situation where the rumors were so rampant and vicious that Alvin's father would feel compelled to exhume his grave and personally check the status of his body in the casket. One does not do that unless there is overpowering evidence that someone might have done such a dastardly deed. This is the environment the entire Smith family endured for their decade living in Palmyra following Joseph's vision from God.

BobDecember 11, 2021

Gave it a try and couldn’t finish it. Just too cliche and kind of dumb. And no magic among the leading characters.

Debbi M.December 10, 2021

Wonderful and thoughtful article. TY for sharing. We all need to be aware of women in this scary position and learn how to direct them to real help and support.

tfDecember 10, 2021

Reading the title chapter of "Andy Warhol was a Hoarder" by Claudia Kalb (subtitled "Inside the Minds of History's Great Personalities") may be an interesting exercise. I'm sure there are many other things out there on the subject. She probably doesn't want to marry this guy.

BrynnDecember 10, 2021

I would add an additional thought… You said this man has millions but “won’t spend a dime”. A friend of mine married a man who also fit that description. While she knew about this tendency when they were dating, she had not fully thought through what it would mean during their marriage. It has become highly challenging for her as he has refused to spend any money, not only on things she might hope for, but also for things she needs. Even though she works and has an income of her own, he is always arguing with her about issues like why she can’t get less expensive lenses for her glasses than what her eye doctor recommended or why they need to replace household fixtures that are broken (even though they can afford it). It has caused her to feel she isn’t important to him and he doesn’t perceive her to be a full partner in the marriage. And constantly dealing with different perspectives of how to use their financial resources has been emotionally draining and harmful to their relationship. Be aware that while this might seem to be merely a tendency towards thriftiness or a personal quirk while dating, if he has a drive to “hoard money”, that has the potential for becoming a much deeper issue if you marry and view the use of financial resources very differently. And as Geoff describes if he has a mental drive to "hoard" money, that will likely not be easy to change.

LexaGraemeDecember 9, 2021

I also add my thanks for this article.

Pam RoderDecember 9, 2021

This article was most informative and I very much appreciate Dan Peterson for writing it. I learned a great deal from his research and thankful he took the time to write for Meridian Magazine. Thanks so much Daniel. I've learned so much from you.

Mark R BischoffDecember 9, 2021

I am the great-grandson of Mariner Wood Merrill and I have never heard this story before. There are other very interesting stories about him that have been shared and passed down in the family but I'm a bit shocked that this hasn't been one of them. What a fantastic experience. Thank you for printing this!

Paralee EckmanDecember 9, 2021

This is an especially fascinating article, and I am thankful to Daniel Peterson for preparing it, and Meridian for printing it.

Dixie BarlowDecember 9, 2021

Thank you for these ways to enlarge the Christmas Spirit in our families.

Harold RustDecember 9, 2021

A tender story regarding faith, trust, and challenging relationships. A very interesting parallel story can be found in the Autobiography of Mary Woolley Chamberlain (my grandmother's sister) who also married a man who had wives and children still living. In Mary's case, however, she was married a decade after the Manifesto rather than a decade before it was declared. Her testimony of the Gospel and of the principle of plural marriage as well as her praise and respect for her husband are a wonderful post-script to the words of Lorena Larsen. Both examples highlight the deeper purpose of such an Abrahamic sacrifice.

KristenDecember 9, 2021

This is a well-written, beautiful compilation of quotes and testimonies of the importance of eternal family ties. Thank you.

Lisa G.December 8, 2021

Lorena Larsen is my great-great-grandmother. I stumbled upon her autobiography in college while browsing books in the library at BYU. Often I wanted to share her story when discussions of plural marriage came up online, but I received impressions not to do so because I could not guarantee that her story would be used for good. Later, when the Church shared her story in Saints, Vol. 2, I understood why I had felt impressed to wait until her story could be shared in the right way. I was also pleasantly surprised to see this article in Meridian Magazine. To the commenter previous who wanted to know "the rest of the story", if you click the link in the footnotes to Lorena's autobiography, you can read in her own words everything that happened afterward.

Linda WillisDecember 8, 2021

Thank you Brother Thayne for an article filled with truth and compassion. It seems like we are all being given an abundance of opportunities to search our hearts, stretch our minds and call into the action the gift of discernment to understand all gender issues. We have the tools if we choose to listen carefully and read constantly the words of our leaders. It is never wise to get in front of them while claiming to follow them.

Nancy H.December 8, 2021

My mother always pieced together quilts for her children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren. She then hand quilted them. This article brought tears to my eyes. Thanks for sharing.

13th a of fDecember 8, 2021

This movie creates a new category- COMrom! So much comedy with the romance! We laughed all through it! Every time you watch it, you catch more funny moments! A MUST see.

HalDecember 8, 2021

Thank you for your courage and for this thought-provoking and compassionate message.

TandartDecember 8, 2021

Excellent message! I am convinced that self-pity is our most negative and destructive emotion. We are here to act, not be acted upon. Dealing with depression for much of my 75 years has blessed me in ways I could not have otherwise have received.

PennieDecember 8, 2021

Thank you for so much clarity on a subject that is confusing to many. I would wish we all could comprehend and apply what you have expressed here.

Douglas NadybalDecember 8, 2021

Yes He is unscripted and unpredictable...or so it seems to us. To one, he beckons to come unto Him, to another He says "go and sin no more." We should just content ourselves in being happy to understand His commands and forget about trying to thing we have Him figured out. Man cannot comprehend God.

KathleenDecember 7, 2021

Thanks for the reminder. It's been a lot of years and I forgot the scene and it being used in President Monson's talk. We all have situations to rectify.

Ed GayhartDecember 7, 2021

Wow The Good News of the Savior never fails!

JANEEN FULLERDecember 7, 2021

this is one of my favorite christmas hymns...this is a job well done and I am sure that the Lord is well pleases with his ambassadors

Kenny MazzantiDecember 7, 2021

Another good reason that having Americans who will exercise their right to keep and bear arms is appropriate inside of our church buildings. Three years ago a member in Fallon Nevada murdered another member during Sacrament Meeting while other members watched helplessly. I prevented an armed robbery in my own ward 10 years ago because the robbers did not want to deal with an armed member who stood up to them. They simply left the building when confronted. No harm was allowed to be done.

Carlos RoundyDecember 7, 2021

Jesus took the Holy Spirit for his guide, he led a unscripted life, he did what the spirit told him to do.

Jo Ann OkelberryDecember 7, 2021

This rendition is so touching and inspiring. Love those missionaries.

MickeyDecember 7, 2021

Why does everything have to be about losing weight? Being fat is not a medical condition! And In fact BMI 27 has the longest longevity. Our bodies are programmed to gain over time as we age; this is actually how our bodies were made by Heavenly Father. Healthy bodies can happen at many sizes. This push to be losing weight at all times is contributing to a huge problem with deadly eating disorders. You do not need to be “less” to be a worthwhile and valuable child of God.

karell binghamDecember 7, 2021

I love the spirit that I have felt reading this great essay! Thank you so much for your time and effort! May you have great blessings because of your testimonies!

Douglas E NadybalDecember 6, 2021

This is a wonderful instruction on what to do for and specifically how to pray for and on behalf of those in our circle upon which the Lord has made His decision to take something precious away. Be it marriage or even death, our comfort is ultimately that Person in the Godhead entitled, The Comforter. That said, and I am a bit surprised that such an accomplished scholar and editor would omit the rest of the story, and leave us to wonder what ever happened to Lorena Larsen after her marriage was forcefully terminated. Was she indeed cast out as was Hagar? Did anyone help her and her children? Did the Church do anything for her and others like her?

Gary AndersonDecember 6, 2021

Thank you Brother Harper! I come from plural marriage pioneers who traveled to Utah in the 1800s on both sides of my family and without them, I wouldn't be here. I love them all so much. They were extremely brave and obedient to Heavenly Father's will.

James ScottDecember 6, 2021

I read many accounts of such separations, including that of my own gig other with sadness and disappointment. I’ve never read an account save one of how these women coped with being cut off or how the father related to his children of the abandoned families. Did they visit, did they provide for them? I do know many refused the government edict and the Manifesto and continued in their course of polygamy and the Endowment House had to be raised. Are there reports of the fate of these women that abandoned the practice and remarried?

BeckyDecember 5, 2021

This is an incredibly vulnerable question and I appreciate you recognizing that there is potential for things to go too far.

David SampsonDecember 5, 2021

Very inspiring and enlightening. Thank you so much for taking the time to dig into the details of this topic. As a side comment... just for your understanding... there are several areas where your use of pronouns is confusing about whom you are speaking. For example, when you spoke of President Nelson's ancestors I often didn't know to which relative "his" was referring.

LoraDecember 5, 2021

When my children were in public school, I came up with mental health days for their sake. They needed a break from the relentless pressure of crowd control, daily homework, certain bad teachers, and the over all chaos. Meanwhile, I considered longer-term solutions. We ended up leaving public school and that has made all the difference. I shudder to think of what children are being exposed to these days. Parents need to be aware and responsive. If your vacation is merely a run-away-from-life, then it will do little for you on any level. But many vacations can be very different from that: enrichment, not denial. Purpose- in education, in vacation, anywhere- makes the difference.

Maryann TaylorDecember 4, 2021

Wow! What great articles. We so often struggle, looking beyond the mark, when some of our suffering can be lightened by applying the basic principles of the Word of Wisdom. As one who has suffered from varying degrees of depression for most of my life, I recognize that I need to get to bed earlier, eat a more healthy diet and get more exercise. I appreciate your gentleness in urging that we can start with small steps and work from there. Otherwise, it becomes overwhelming and just another way of feeding the depression. I have found great strength and power in meditating on the scriptures and attending the temple. We need to bring as much light into our being as possible. I have felt the Savior carrying my burdens and I am so grateful for him and his power manifested in my life. My depression is not gone, but it so much better than it was.

RaLee HallDecember 4, 2021

Thank you, Jacob Hess, for all of your articles. I learn so much from them and have sent some of your thoughts and ideas to a son who suffers from depression. Your articles are always worthwhile reading

WallyDecember 3, 2021

Wise counsel, Geoff.

Lorena HolmsteadDecember 3, 2021

This is one of the most valuable resources for healing (mental, physical, emotional and spritiual) that I have ever come across. The resources shared, the insight, the compassion, the truth - all of it - deeply moving. I will share far and wide, because this is a deep-seated passion for me too. Thank you, Jacob!

vickieDecember 3, 2021

i understand what david is talking about. i have a son who is gay and got married to a partner and forgoing the church. he was a missionary and he knows the truth, but what i saw was him searching for love. he was 35 when he came out. the only thing i can do is pray for him and his partner. but i love him very much and will continue to love him that much. his father feels the same way. so i am sypathetic to the LGBTQ group because to me that would be the hardest thing in the world to cope with.

zCatLadyDecember 3, 2021

Thank you for insightful articles that are filled with hope and honesty. I have suffered with mental illness for almost 50 years without hope of getting better. I am learning to accept that I won't truly be whole until the next life, yet now I see that I can make improvement in this life.

HeatherDecember 2, 2021

Such a wake up call! It’s so easy to be complacent when our own needs are met and we have enough to eat ourselves! Thank you for the invitation to think more of those who are suffering♥️

pam roderDecember 2, 2021

I will echo Joy Baird's praise. Thank you, thank you.

A.S.H.December 2, 2021

Emma Somerville was my 3rd great-grandmother and her story is incredible. Oftentimes, learning about her life has been a source of faith, and hope for me. I'm so grateful that I know this story, and that I can try to apply it to my own life and I know that by serving others I am serving Christ. Thank you for sharing this.

Rita MillerDecember 2, 2021

I, too, have Pilgrim ancestors, through Capt. Myles Standish and John Alden. The fact that tens of millions of other Americans have similar ancestry is somehow very comforting. The troubles we are currently going through will not defeat us; our family ties bind us, even if we aren't currently aware of them. Those on the other side of the veil are always with us, cheering us on.

KJBDecember 2, 2021

There's a simple test for those who claim that they're "advocating for life": If Roe is thrown out next year, then you should immediately insist that any fetus is conceived during a calendar year is now tax-deductible. The instant a woman becomes pregnant, she can declare a new dependent and reap the benefits on her next return. If an unborn child is really "alive", this should be a no brainer. Put your money where your mouth is, guys...

Joy BairdDecember 2, 2021

Thank you, thank you ,thank you for this outstanding article! I will share this with many and watch for more information coming.

Maryann TaylorDecember 1, 2021

Thank you for confirming my thoughts that one of the reasons that Emma stayed in Nauvoo was probably because the Prophet's mother, Lucy, was not strong enough for the journey. I hope that none of us are ever critical of Emma for any reason. We cannot begin to really understand all that she endured. Perhaps, through her many great sacrifices and obedience, she had already secured her exaltation. Perhaps it was better for her to remain with Lucy and she was not required by the Lord to go to the Salt Lake Valley. Whatever the case, I believe she is still "An Elect Lady," as recorded in D&C 25:3, "Behold, thy sins are forgiven thee, and thou art an elect lady, whom I have called."

Carlos RoundyDecember 1, 2021

Joseph and Emma also baried 4 or 5 children in the Nauvoo area.

Candace J BarrowsDecember 1, 2021

This tender story has really touched my heart, We need to be reminded often of our Heavenly Father's love for us

Herm OlsenDecember 1, 2021

Excellent article. In my youth, it was common practice in the Church to criticize Emma (which reflected the Brigham Young interpretation of life). But I was always cautious about any such criticism, because I knew how passionately devoted Joseph was to Emma. And I feared I would have to face Joseph one day to answer for any criticism I might have otherwise made. I still believe that, and am pleased that the Church has taken a rather more sympathetic view of Emma in recent decades.

Anna Louise HetzelNovember 30, 2021

Thank you, Vivian, for a wonderfully written article, with much to ponder.

KathleenNovember 30, 2021

Thank you for sharing such tender things. They enlarged my heart.

Spencer McConkieNovember 30, 2021

Thank you for this beautifully written article.

RC H.November 29, 2021

“Boundaries” has become such a trigger word. How about greater focus on love-based bridges as the first resort?!

Maryann TaylorNovember 29, 2021

It is a very small world!!! I am also a descendant of William White, through his son, Peregrine, the first baby to be born from the Mayflower party in America. It is so exciting to read of our ancestors, and their strength and endurance help to bolster my courage. It also enlarges my gratitude to our Heavenly Father for giving us this great, choice land, and for all the comforts we enjoy that our ancestors did not.

Mark Deppe, descendant of Thomas Winward buried in Nauvoo.November 29, 2021

Wonderful pictures and family history content. How could I get a copy of this original article?

Rochelle HaleNovember 29, 2021

Congratulations on your bead piece being accepted into the art competition. My hoped-for dancing and singing talents were side-lined a number of years ago due to age and surgery, though I still hope for some opportunity. Now my creativity mostly comes through writing. I was recently asked to write a Christmas story that will be the theme of our church holiday dinner. Talk about weight on my shoulders!!! Nevertheless, in one afternoon, through the inspiration of the Spirit (and maybe Heavenly Mother?) I was able to knock off a draft, then polish it up within the week. I don't usually pat myself on the back, but when I read this piece I can hardly believe I wrote it. I know it came through inspiration.

DennisNovember 28, 2021

My daughter started raising chickens a few years ago. They all became members of the family. She named them after her favorite Beatles songs. Lucy, black bird, Elinor, Prudence, etc. As Soon as they get into their new house she's going back into the chicken business. She loves her girls!

Karyl MorganNovember 28, 2021

I feel this virus, vaccine, masks, etc is about the journey you all have taken not about your destination. Maybe it's not about taking a vaccine but about growing closer to the Lord by following counsel to read scripture, pray, fast ponder, etc to find the answer that works for your body. No one on this earth is 100 percent following the prophet. We all need to reassess ourselves about our daily gospel "habits." Everyone needs repentance daily. Perhaps the Lord wants us to learn to make our own spiritual decisions and not judge or persecute others who make different decisions. We are all God's children and his love for the billion plus people who have taken or are now taking their earthly journey now is unconditional.

Grandma GigiNovember 27, 2021

I believe boundaries are what people with “control” issues seem to need. The Scriptures don’t show the Savior “controlling” people. You also won’t find the words “toxic”, “dysfunctional” or other nonsense spoken of in General Conference. My daughter-in-law uses these terms all the time. Her parents are both Psychologists. It’s always awkward to be around them and experience the manipulating behaviors.

Vivian M AdamsNovember 26, 2021

Thank you for a beautiful article on The Vision of the Redemption of the Dead.

JONATHAN ATKINSONNovember 26, 2021

Why??? Americans entered the war in 1917 by declaring war on Germany. This was due to the attack on Lusitania, the unrestricted submarine warfare on American ships heading to Britain, and Germany encouraging Mexico to attack the USA. A British passenger ship that was sunk by a German U-Boat on May 7, 1915.

Pat HarkerNovember 26, 2021

Wonderful article; thank you!

KatrinaNovember 26, 2021

My maiden name is Holden. Alot of my dads family are from Manchester, England.

Scott BrownNovember 25, 2021

D. Herrin - Thank you. I would like to work with the LDS Citation Index and contacted them two years ago. At that time, they told me that there was no one actively working on the project and thus no one for me to work with. I remain interested in collaborating with them.

Stephanie tollerNovember 25, 2021

Thanks for the article. I just read Tim Ballard’s book and it is excellent. I know we all look to the Mayflower passengers as the ultimate American pedigree but I also love those that came on the Fortune in 1621 and the Anne in 1623. They stayed behind to help raise more money and make more preparations. They were needed reinforcements for those that went on the Mayflower. We have ancestors that were on all three and I stand in awe with a heart full of gratitude for who they were and the sacrifices that they made. Happy Thanksgiving!!

GrannyNovember 25, 2021

Thank you for the article! I'm grateful for Meridian Magazine and people who write. A lot to THINK about and give THANKS for today and everyday. Wishing you a blessed and joyful day.

Justin MNovember 24, 2021

I thoroughly enjoyed "The Pilgrim Hypothesis". Full of things to think about and ponder. Many areas to be thankful for.


I really enjoy reading Daris Howard's articles, both here in tthe Meridian and my local news paper. They are always fun.

JenniferNovember 24, 2021

While this is good general advice, it is not always true. Especially if your family member has a severe mental illness or personality disorder. Sometimes they are trying to destroy your life. You are not required to stay married to an abuser. You are not required to have them to your holiday celebrations. You are not required to let them have you arrested. If you think this is not happening, get some divorced friends.

HalNovember 22, 2021

Thank you for this powerful and informative article. I am still astounded by the number of people, even today, who think the persecution of the early Saints was solely due to opposition to plural marriage. Because the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were not firmly entrenched in the still young nation, it was easy for mobs to form to enforce their idea of "freedom" by violence. Sadly, we have seen this recently as well as a method of forcing ideas of racial equality without due process. I believe the Civil War was a direct consequence of the general populace of the nation refusing to uphold the rights of individuals regarding religion and slavery. I hope we don't relive that horror, but it looks like we are headed down that road.

CDNovember 22, 2021

His wanting sex more than her sounds like a normal guy and her response sounds about normal for a woman, particularly an older woman with a religious background. What troubles me about this, especially from a guys viewpoint is that he doesn't seem to be doing anything else but asking for sex or waiting around thinking about it. Not helping with the yard work or around the house or having any activities or hobbies is not normal or healthy, even more so if he's not doing it because he's not getting sex. He needs to talk to counselor and/or a doctor. For her I would recommend reading Sister Laura Brotherson's book or the book Real Intimacy or The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands and any of Sheila Wray Greg life's articles or books.

Beverly Barnt MooreNovember 22, 2021

I was an only child living most of my young life in the country with no neighbor children to interact with so I learned from early on how to entertain myself and my own happiness. I was married and first widowed at 18 and then after another marriage and he left me I finally ended up of retirement age alone and now over 30 years alone I had learned how to be happy alone so the pandemic "stay at home" time was no big deal for me. No loneliness, no depression, no anxious times. Just peace and joy to be healthy and alive and loved even when the family couldn't come to visit. So my take on good mental health is to love yourself and learn to enjoy life alone.

Wendy EllisNovember 22, 2021

Thanks for the "thorns" story. We all need to be reminded that it takes challenges in order for us to grow. Happy Thanksgiving!

Anonymous for obvious reasonsNovember 22, 2021

It is unfortunate that more people do not understand the physiological effects of chronic aging and disease on the act of intimacy on both men and women. To be brief, when sexual difficulties are encountered, a man will become hypersexual attempting to "burn" through and fix the problem where a woman will become hyposexual and retreat from the problem. I realize that this description is a generalization and that situations outside the norm are a given. I returned from my mission, got married and soon developed acute prostatitis that soon developed into a deep chronic infection that made completion of intimacy painful. I too, became hypersexual making excessive demands on my wife. Diabetes, injuries with neurological damage, an improper circumcision, hypertension, hormonal disorders are some of the things that can affect sexual sensation that is experienced. Love, consideration, care and understanding are needed by both husband and wife in such situations. Such things are experienced by both sexes as we age and as "opposition in all things" is experienced. Again, it is indeed unfortunate that such things are not understood because if they were, I know that much frustration and unhappiness in this mortal existence could be avoided.

MichelleNovember 21, 2021

That’s some amazing breakdowns—thank you so much for taking the time to share your insights. I’ve often wished I could index my family history journals the same way. I’d love to see the pattens and themes in my ancestors lives as well.

Debra AlticeNovember 21, 2021

H North ... I understand your frustration however if you listen carefully to the principles in his address... President Oakes address was NOT about abandoning any values. If anyone has a right to speak about where lines should be drawn... it is this senior apostle of the Lord and he was not asking us to reconcile sin at all! But he was advocating for loving our fellow men and being willing to sit down together to work out issues as peacefully as we can. God Himself has a right to be as extreme as he wants when he sees the need but not us. We do not have the right to get on our self righteous "high horse" and turn to vigilantism in the name of religion but neither do those who see differently than us or are non religious have a right to impinge our basic religious freedoms which are God given and enthroned in our Constitution. He was calling both sides to come to the table and negotiate peacefully where possible. In this imperfect world there must be some level of compromise in order to live together peacefully.

Jessica WhitakerNovember 21, 2021

Sounds like the husband may be viewing pornography, have a history of sexual abuse, and/or lack developmental maturity. The wife may be wisely stearing clear of any creepy encounters.

Jill A.November 21, 2021

Wow I wish I could have had this counsel when I was married and several different counselors recommended committing to sex three times a week, which I did, and of course didn't help. This counsel makes so much sense. Thank you

MickeyNovember 21, 2021

This man sounds extremely selfish and like he is addicted to pornography.

ClaudiaNovember 21, 2021

Beautiful voice and beautiful song. This calms my soul.

Anonymous for obvious reasonsNovember 20, 2021

I would like to add this…. As a man feels like his sexual stamina if waining, he may behave is ways to desperately to stave off the inevitable decline. Trust me on this. As I have aged, I have felt increased desire for sexual fulfillment just to prove to myself that “I am as good as I ever was.” (To borrow a line from Toby Keith.) I would recommend that along with Mr. Steurer’s recommendations, you compliment him on his love-making as well as other things even when you are not going to fulfill his desires. Reassure him that he is fine, loved, and desirable whether or not you are having sex.. So those occasions that you do not of cannot meet his needs, he doesn’t take is as an affront or a rejection. My wife has done this and we enjoy healthy intimate relationship both sexually and emotionally, with a lot of love and laughter. And it’s okay as I age. It isn’t like it was. But I am literally head over heels devoted to her and the attention she can and does give me.

tfNovember 20, 2021

Is he addicted to porn?

Linda WillisNovember 20, 2021

It's unfortunate that a world-wide pandemic (health issue) has morphed into a political/ my freedom protest. As a health educator I have supported mandatory safety belt use, a variety of legislation limiting tobacco use, and laws against drunk driving and vaccines to protect children from small pox and polio. When a private choice has a public consequence, then legislation is needed to protect the population. Compassion requires that we protect each other and replace our "rights" with our responsibility to be good world citizens.

D. HerrinNovember 20, 2021

Nice work. I am curious why you weren’t able to use like data out of the LDS Citation Index curated by the team at BYU? Appears to be a major duplication of effort. Thanks.

Myrna LiddellNovember 20, 2021

We have enjoyed everything from Thrive as do our friends who introduced the products to us. This recipe sounds and look yummy and who knew it only uses "1/4" cup of Water! Remember drinking water is your number one item for storing! Some folks seem to think it will magically appear...when we need it? (It is the easiest to store, in the USA at least.)

Carlos RoundyNovember 19, 2021

There is progress on the other side. There are many examples of people who have dreams of relatives who request that there temple work be done so that they can progress on the other side of the veil. Those who have passed away still are able to seek light and knowledge beyond the veil. Progress is eternal.

Cecilie LundgreenNovember 19, 2021

HAPPY THANKFUL GREETINGS!! In response to a number of enquiries, for cash donations… 1. Checks are to be made out to ‘Charity Vision’ (with EYES4ZIMBABWE written in the bottom left corner of the check). 2. Charity Vision is a 501(c)(3) organization and are deductible for U.S. income tax filing. 3. Please be sure to include your postal address in order to receive a tax receipt. 4. Please either give the check to Cecilie Lundgreen (CC) at the ‘LDS Humanitarian Center’….OR…Mail the check to: Cecilie Lundgreen, c/o Ronda Goodell, 1540 East Millbrook Way, Bountiful, Utah 84010 We are HAPPY to answer any additional questions that you might have As we say in Zimbabwe…TATENDA or THANK-YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR KINDNESS!!!

JacobNovember 18, 2021

Thanks RaLee!

Reeve Nield EYES4ZIMBABWENovember 18, 2021

As we say in Zimbabwe...TATENDA!!! TATENDA!!! TATENDA!!! (THANK-YOU SO MUCH!!!) We are VERY, VERY GRATEFUL!!!

LoraNovember 18, 2021

For those of us who do not live in Utah, is there some way that we can contribute monetarily to this worthy cause?

Ellen D. LovettNovember 18, 2021

What a tender message. I am delighted to read it and sent a small donation. My husband and I served an 18 month mission in Liberia and Sierra Leone in 1990-91 and I have seen the poverty you talk about. I am so thrilled that a temple is in Ghana, but wonder how the members even can get garments. Bless you for your efforts to help those beautiful people.

Geri CampbellNovember 18, 2021

I am reading this story in Australia but I come from - and joined the Church in - South Africa many years ago. Why does the above story assume that only people in America will read the story and respond appropriately? Meridian is received all around the world. Why cannot provision be made for people everywhere to respond?

Gaye WillisNovember 18, 2021

What a wonderful story! What a great mission these sisters are accomplishing and how many people they are blessing! Can you please clarify the address if we would like to mail a donation to help with this? Is the address listed in the story just the physical address to participate or is that a mailing address that could receive checks? Thank you!

Judy GibsonNovember 17, 2021

Thank you for this excellent article! I have begun a Gratitude Journal at the end of my regular journal since the beginning of this month. It's amazing the thoughts and memories of God's goodness that have come back to me in remembering my blessings.

RaLee HallNovember 17, 2021

I always learn so much from you articles. Thank you for taking the time to post them.

H NorthNovember 17, 2021

How far does one have to bend over backwards to compromise one's values before it constitutes an abandonment of those values? Where is the line? Was God "extremist" when He destroyed Sodom and Gomorra? "We have NO obligation to reconcile with the children of the Devil." - Bruce R. McConkie

carolyn nicolaysenNovember 17, 2021

Maryann, I love that. Do you have a picture you could share with me? I'm trying to get photos of great ideas to share on the Totally Ready website and facebook page. You can contact me at [email protected] Great reminder about hot air rising too!

Steven Adams GoodwinNovember 17, 2021

Thanks Vivian for the reminder and the subtlety of how God's plan unfolds by the small and simple things that the world holds in contempt.

RmcNovember 17, 2021

It shocks me to realize, as some of these comments prove, that there are still many who believe that being vaccinated stops the spread of Covid. The evidence is in. The studies are published, most recently in The Lancet, that one has nearly the same chance of contracting Covid from a vaccinated person as an unvaccinated. The CDC has conceded the fact, and now (with the evidence too overwhelming to ignore) Dr. Fauci is conceding this, as well as waning effectiveness. To condemn the unvaccinated, to call them selfish and petulant, to blame them for a child contracting Covid is just so wrong in so many ways. Some obviously didn’t read the article, preferring to stay ignorant as to the evidence plainly laid out herein.

Mark StoddardNovember 16, 2021

Kathy, Thank you for your thoughts. I love discussing the Gospel. You are so right. I was quoting Christ and his terse conversation with the "lawyers" trying to trap him. Marriage is certainly ordinance happening in this life and during the Millennium. Not sure after that where it fits. Either way, the Restored Gospel amazingly accounts for every broken heart, every effort that doesn't pan out, for whatever reason. So beautiful in its comprehensive Plan of Salvation.

LGNovember 16, 2021

I’ve felt strongly our family should memorize The Proclamation to the Family. There are so many anchoring doctrines that help kids understand truths about these topics!

Alan WildNovember 16, 2021

Very good article

Gordon J HensleyNovember 16, 2021

Well said, brother.

E SmithNovember 16, 2021

Thanks, Maryann Taylor, for adding that. I was thinking of elder Bednar’s talk all the way through Givens’ article.

Melia Rios-LazoNovember 16, 2021

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LindaNovember 16, 2021

Parents definitely need to concern themselves with their children's education. It is a more difficult thing to do in blue states. Don't allow this trash in schools or homes!! Even if it means you have to home school.

Sonya WashburnNovember 16, 2021

This article was so well stated...I appreciate you taking time to lay this argument out. I have highest regard for those that are standing for God given freedom, they are pledging their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor...God bless us to humble ourselves and seek His help as we do all we can to preserve our freedoms.

Boaneges RibalcavaNovember 16, 2021

Why I am not hearing anything about one of the facts that have been known since the first quarter of 2020, that healthy children WILL NOT die due to this virus? For that matter, that although it is true about the lethality of the virus, it is mainly in a specific group: people over 60 years and/or with some underlying conditions. If this is correct, and the data from all countries even the CDC here, confirm this, why are they mandating children to get vaccinated, since they are NOT TO DIE due to the virus, and exposing them to unknown risks, that even if rare, this risk is greater than the virus itself.

WallyNovember 16, 2021

Disappointing. Compassion is vital. But we must have compassion for the COVID-vulnerable as well as the vaccine-reluctant. And, along with the scientific evidence in favor of vaccination, the strong encouragement of the Brethren is decisive for me.

Marla SmakaNovember 16, 2021

I agree that we must treat all people with compassion. However, my view is that a person who will not accept vaccination is lacking compassion for those who cannot be vaccinated. Yes, it is a matter of choice to accept vaccination, but what about the little children who become ill with Covid, contracted from people who will not accept vaccination? My fellow ward member is asking for prayers on behalf of her 8-year-old granddaughter who is literally fighting for her life due to Covid infection. The granddaughter's family who are elligible have been fully vaccinated. The child likely contracted Covid from nonvaccinated people. Whether one accepts the opinion of Russell M. Nelson as a prophet, seer and revelator may not be relevant. But the opinion of Russell M. Nelson, M.D, world-renown physician and surgeon should be relevant. This gentleman strongly urges vaccination. Would such a person, whether prophet or physician, ask another human being to accept something harmful? Central to tenets of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is freedom to choose. However, when one chooses, there is no escape from the consequences. A person who opts out of vaccination is opting in to possibly cause premature death of himself or herself, as well as friends, loved ones, and unknown contacts. I read an article in the Deseret News about an emergency room physician in St. George, Utah. He talked about how those who refused vaccination are burdened with intense guilt when they discover someone they care about has been afflicted with Covid and/or death from Covid. Those same people realize these deaths and times of extreme sickness were ever so preventable. So I will be polite to all, try to extend charity to all. But my belief is that those who rejection in vaccination are swathed in the selfishness of the our culture of "being true to my authentic self."

MarkNovember 16, 2021

If one does a word search in the scriptures of “earn” or “earned” you will not find them. There is zero reference to “earning” one’s Salvation. Salvation is a gift. But, one has the choice, the agency to accept or reject that Gift. Once accepted thoughts, desires, and actions turn to Christ, who is the Giver of that Gift.

Becky S.November 16, 2021

I was surprised at some of the books my children had in their Utah school library too. The intense descriptions of sexual acts of minors in books for children was shocking. “These sources violate Utah obscenity laws found in criminal code and health education code.” They sure do and the first step is knowing what your child is reading and visit your library. Speak up, we don’t want our children being exposed to this illegal filth because someone else thinks it is appropriate for educating the young minds of our children. It is wrong and my children are precious to me as a parent. I don’t want them reading or being exposed to pornography. These books are against the law in Utah.

KJBNovember 16, 2021

I'd rather save my compassion for the vulnerable people who caught COVID thanks to the petulant crybabies who refuse to think of anybody but themselves. I love how the people who normally insist that the discussion is over after the Prophet has spoken are now trying to justify disobeying him. Anything to own the libs, right? Mah Freedom!!!!!

RobertNovember 16, 2021

I hope church members follow the urging of a prophet of God, regardless of the outcome. Our pioneer ancestors were asked to cross the plains and some suffered greatly for it, even cost some their lives. Will they be blessed for their decision to follow the prophet? Absolutely, for God is good. We still ought to be kind to those who choose not to follow though. Compassion is required of us just as faith and hope are. Thanks for the insights in the article.

C.November 16, 2021

Thank you for the work, research and effort you put into this article. This is a perspective that is so needed right now. I pray more people will lead out with compassion and not judgment for someone else’s circumstances.

Jeff LindsayNovember 16, 2021

When I read about porn being promoted pn some of the databases you mentioned, I was skeptical. But using Duckduckgo to search, I searched for "Follett Destiny Discover parental complaints pornography" (without quotes) and quickly found an article from Nov. 11, 2021 in the Tennessee Star where a parental complaint at a school board meeting indicated that the Destiny Discover app, at least as set up for her child's school, was giving kids a list of recommended books that were highly inappropriate. The first page of recommendations or books near the top of the list were sources of great concern. It wasn't like there was a hidden book somewhere that a child would have to actively seek to get exposed to risque material, but rather, the databases seems to be pursuing an ugly agenda or promoting material that would be damaging to children. See Parents need to be alert and not naively assume that reasonable adults are in charge of what their child will be exposed to. Thank you for this valuable article!

JAmesNovember 16, 2021

My ancestor practiced plural marriage, but she was the third wife. Who am I going to lose in my family line? My forefather or foremother? Who is going to be kicked out into another family and no longer able to associate by choice and marriage whom they chose in this life? My forefather and 4 foremothers loved each other and were happy. They were sealed by authority with the promise that the ordinance was "bound on earth and in heaven." You are suggesting, even if they choose each other willingly in this and the next life, that they do not get each other, and in fact the sealing power here on earth is null and void on a grand scale in the eternities. Also polygamy is not a term the scripture uses. You use the term as though polygamy itself is a type of marriage order, "an exception." In reality, all marriage takes the exact same order. Every single marriage is between one and and one woman. Every marriage can only be consummated between one man and one woman. Anything else is biologically impossible. Hence the term plural marriage, which is a term denoting the plurality of monogamous marriages. Three wives = three marriages. So I think the idea that polygamy is a sacrificial exception outside the eternal order of God is a big stretch. And you have overlooked the nature of the sealing power on earth tied to heaven and overlooked God honoring those agents who desire their plural marriages to continue as was promised in the authorized marriage ceremony.

Jann BradfordNovember 15, 2021

As a frrshman at the U. Of U. I was privileged to be in the chorus of Madam Butterfly with Ariel Bybee in the lead role. I had never seen/heard an opera before and her extraordinary voice and powerful performance brought me to tears. And to my amazement, backstage she was so kind; humble and approachable. I have never forgotten that experience. It was one of the highlights of my young life.

Maryann TaylorNovember 15, 2021

There is probably not a ward or branch in the church where parents are not struggling with the heartache of rebellious children. I agree with all the sentiments expressed here about continuing to love and to express that love. There are few things that are more powerful in softening a child's heart. However, if your daughter decides not to respect the rules you set down in your home--especially if she brings drugs or other harmful substances into your home after you have made your rules clear, you have an obligation to protect your younger children. If that means she must leave, then she has made that choice. There is no such thing as agency without accountability and consequences.

Maryann TaylorNovember 15, 2021

Elder David A. Bednar, of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles gives us great enlightenment on this subject in his address: FAITHFUL PARENTS AND WAYWARD CHILDREN. He writes: "The statements of Joseph Smith and Orson F. Whitney are construed by some members of the Church to mean that wayward children unconditionally receive the blessings of salvation because of and through the faithfulness of parents. However, this interpretation is moderated by the fact that the most complete account of the Prophet's sermon was not available to Church historians...In the more complete set of notes recorded by Howard and Martha Coray, Joseph Smith is shown to have qualified his statement to make the promised blessings conditional upon the obedience of the children: 'When a father and mother of a family have [been sealed], their children WHO HAVE NOT TRANSGRESSED are secured by the seal wherewith the parents have been sealed.' "This clarification is more consistent doctrinally...the concept of unconditional salvation for disobedient children would contradict many foundational teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, including the second article of faith that 'men will be punished for their own sins.' Elder Bednar goes on to affirm the powerful influence of righteous parents in the lives of their children, however, he also states "Mercy will not rob justice, and the sealing power of faithful parents will only claim wayward children upon the condition of their repentance and Christ's atonement. Repentant wayward children will enjoy salvation and all the blessings that go with it, but exaltation is much more. It must be fully earned. The question as to who will be exalted must be left to the Lord in his mercy." A thorough reading of Elder Bednar's article is very illuminating on this subject.

Maryann TaylorNovember 15, 2021

Thank you SO MUCH for doing this--it is going to help me a lot in teaching my Gospel Doctrine class. This is truly the most thrilling event we will ever experience on this earth!

Becky DouglasNovember 15, 2021

Dear Katrina, Of course! Let's all spread the joy of Gratitude with others. Thanks for all you are doing! Becky

amaryNovember 15, 2021

I think its important to not blow this out of proportion. What they described sounds pretty tame compared to other things she could be doing. I also went to a church school, and let me tell you this is extremely common. Way more common than people think. Especially with kids who grew up in very strict households where they felt constantly controlled. Once they are living on their own and finally have some freedom they go a little overboard. They just don't usually tell their parents, which makes me wonder how they found out and if she told them as a bid for attention or to rile them up. Who knows. When interacting with the daughter, just act with love and compassion. Resist the urge to lecture or guilt trip, this will just push her further away. Her feeling unconditionally loved and maintaining positive connections with family will make a big difference in her future choices. She already knows the parents stance on the matter, there is no need to keep repeating it. As for the younger children, maybe have a discussion as to why we try to abstain from drugs, alcohol, and other things. Explain what the negative consequences could be if they make certain choices. Some times we focus so much on the "Don't do that!" that we provide little information on the reasons behind it. Also resist the urge to become more controlling with the younger kids in an attempt to keep them from making similar choices. Often the more controlling and overzealous we become with religious matters, we cause the opposite effect than intended. I wouldn't worry about the younger kids too much. I had older siblings and friends that made poor choices but I felt no need to follow in their footsteps.

ShaunaNovember 15, 2021

This incident has left me heartsick and concerned. My daughter just arrived in Mexico a week ago to serve her mission, and although she's not in the mission where this occurred, this crime hit close to home. I know that missionaries are in the Lord's Hands, but I also know that bad things happen to missionaries sometimes. Having served a mission myself, I know that missionaries are sometimes in areas they would never be in otherwise, at times of night etc., but this was in a Chapel with 70 missionaries and their mission President. One would assume that they were safe. I just pray that God will compensate those there and pray that the Spirit was with them during the ordeal, and that somehow this incident will become a rallying cry for their mission and will serve to strengthen them overall. God is good and He is in charge

Patricia WintersNovember 15, 2021

When videos and podcasts are posted, it would be beneficial to me, and I am sure some others, if a transcript could be included. For several reasons, it is difficult for me to sit and listen to a subject, but I can read the same matter with ease. Having a transcript would allow me to obtain the information without problems.

Tami TaylorNovember 14, 2021

This is by far the most beautiful, insightful article I have ever read. I have struggled, oh how I have struggled with polygamy. Fearing that God really did not love me and would ask something so heartwrenching and so wrong of me goes against everything I have known and felt about him..This talk brought so much peace. I feel happy and hopeful and like my greatest dreams and desires really can be realized. So many women struggle with this. So many. Are we just lesser people in God's eyes that he does not care for our sorrow and dreams? I can not believe that. It can not be true. 3 Ye cannot behold with your natural eyes, for the present time, the design of your God concerning those things which shall come hereafter, and the glory which shall follow after much tribulation. 4 For after much tribulation come the blessings I think all those who sacrificed so much will receive a hundredfold of blessings, the greatest being they will be sealed to one man and one man only.

Mary Ann T McConkieNovember 14, 2021

Vivian, thanks ever so much for weaving our kitchen tables with many of our most effective learnings. I have fought for the dinner hour, because rarely do families eat meals together in our face-paced society. You say it so well and as I listen to your children teach and expound, I know you and Carlos provided what you have described above. You've passed the baton and the race will be won!

MikkoNovember 14, 2021

I for one am very grateful someone had the courage to tell me about my wife and her affair. I was the one who had no idea and tried to defend her. The truth came out. So glad I am no longer living in that false sense of reality.

Kathy McFarlandNovember 14, 2021

Haven’t our leaders always taught that those who do not have the opportunity to marry in this life will be given that blessing in the next life? Just wondering about your comment that marrying only takes place in this life.

Anita B. AnonymousNovember 13, 2021

I rarely make comments of any kind to any sort of article. But this article has impacted my life and my eternal destiny. I am a convert of 4 years. I grew up with an abusive, violent, misogynistic father and I survived an abusive husband. Being completely fed up with men, and still needing a primary relationship, I married a Lesbian woman. That marriage too, ended in disaster. I concluded that if there was any love at all on this earth, it had to be coming from a Divine Source- humans are just too messed up and life is just too hard for love to survive here. An honest look at my life led me to admit that I had indeed seen and felt evidence of love. Therefore, there had to be some kind of “Source of Love” somewhere. And I was determined to find it or die trying. I was shocked and surprised when my quest led me to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Here, I found more peace, joy, hope, and love than I had thought possible. I was baptized, confirmed, & endowed. A year after my endowment, I was blessed to be sealed in a Temple marriage with a wonderful, loving, righteous man. When I encountered beliefs of Latter-Day Saints around the issue of polygamy in the Celestial Kingdom, my trust in God as well as my joy and peace, began to crumble. I had actually believed all that stuff about marriage partners being equally yoked; polygamy in the Celestial Kingdom is NOT being equally yoked. I had believed that Heavenly Father loves all his children equally. How is it that a man sealed in the Temple can be commanded to take on 50 more wives? Would God command my husband to take on 50 more wives in the Celestial Kingdom? As a result, I would spend a day with my husband to do this? What kind of God does that? That doesn’t sound like Heaven- that sounds like hell. So it must be true- “women are “less than”, dirty, unworthy creatures and they are allowed in heaven only because they provide sexual pleasure to men and produce babies. I am not a beloved daughter of God after all, I am a piece of dirt. My destiny is to be in a harem and spend the eternities changing diapers and burping a billion babies. I want to be destroyed. I don’t want to be a woman. I want to be broken down into the basic elements and be obliterated. Even the sons of perdition are entitled to this escape. Can’t I have the same out? I was in dangerous territory and sinking fast. I was a mess. My relationship to the Godhead, my relationship to my husband, and my relationship to all things Spiritual was crumbling. With anguish I prayed and relentlessly searched scripture for greater Light and Wisdom on this matter. I had just a spark of hope that maybe, just maybe, my understanding was faulty and incomplete. Maybe my perceptions and understanding were colored by my childhood in the brutal earthly culture of Satan, coupled with incorrect teachings of imperfect (but well meaning) mortals. I continued going to the Temple and beseeched the Godhead for further Light and Wisdom. For a long time, I spoke to no one about the heavy darkness and gnawing fear inside me. Then with our “Come Follow Me” studies on D&C 132 this week, I confided my feelings and fears to my husband. While he was kind, loving, and patient, I remained enveloped in fear and darkness. We prayed together and individually. I saw no reprieve. This article was like the first light following a brutal dark arctic winter. It brought a glimmer of light and hope. The heavy darkness has begun to recede and I feel trust in Heavenly Father, hope in Jesus Christ, and joy in the Restored Gospel beginning to return. I want to thank you for this carefully researched, well thought out, logically constructed article. It has played a crucial role in the process of restoring peace and trust in my relationship to the Godhead, my husband, and all things Spiritual.

Ronald BarnesNovember 13, 2021

Ever since I was rather young, I had always felt that there was one person who I was destined to marry. It had already been arranged in the pre-mortal existence. My future wife and I had our first date when we were 17 years old. The next day I began telling people that I had found the girl I was going to marry. That was 50 years ago. After all of that it would be devastating to me to spend eternity without her. It’s a great comfort to me to know that our marital relationship will not die when one of us does.

HMCNovember 13, 2021

While the scriptures teach that we are ... • “free to choose” (2 Nephi 2:27), and • “free to act” (2 Nephi 10:23), and • “free [to] act for [ourselves]” (Helaman 14:30) ... some mistakenly believe that have something called “free agency.” You will NOT find the term “free agency” anywhere in the scriptures. HOWEVER ..  in D&C 101:78 you WILL find the term “moral agency.” AND ... there is a significant difference between these two terms. I invite you to go to the Gospel Library App to investigate this subject ... just search for “moral agency.”

CC WilliamsNovember 12, 2021

Thank you for this! I truly appreciate the understanding this treatise on obedience and sacrifice. I couldn't help reflecting on how this discussion might, in some way, apply to what took place in Eden

TrudyNovember 12, 2021

We are going through his with two of our children. You can make a choice to love them or ostracise them. We choose to love. How else will they learn that we as parents and church members are Christlike. It’s been 13 yrs for our daughter but now she has a partner and 3 children of her own and we notice her softening each year and it’s wonderful! Everyone has their own conversion, and time to learn. Some learn by faith and faster than others. Some learn very slowly and the hard way… and that’s painful but their way of learning. Also on the flip side this has been a refining process for us as parents, we have had to learn to respect the process and love our children - and sometimes loving them is hard when you are being treated poorly. But we need to dig deep and remember that as parents we need to continue to set the example and just continue to keep the channels open and LOVE. Continue to fast and pray. We have lessons to learn as parents and this is as much a learning curve for us as it is for them. I look at my parents who had 7 children, all very different and they survived the trials of raring a family :) so it must be possible ♥️♥️

Sandra WhiteNovember 12, 2021

My oldest teen son was a rebel during high school years along with friends used drugs, etc. His 3 siblings knew what he was doing and realized it was not for them but his behavior did cause problems even to the point I had to call the police as he was cursing & destroying furniture....they found drugs hidden in a cut out in a book and he spent the night in jail. Was not easy for me as a single mother but had to be done. Eventually i had to have him leave the house but told him I loved him and if ever he needed anything I would be there for him.....he struggled but eventually found Christ and turned his life around. He is now 62 and has lived a life for Christ and I am proud of him. Suggest this mother not be too concerned about the siblings as they too can see what she is doing is wrong and if she just loves her wayward daughter, they will not follow in her path.

Rebecca M PinegarNovember 12, 2021

So incredibly beautiful and well written. Such a flood of memories. I stepped back to that place of total security. Thank you for so beautifully weaving in the profound blessings of such a setting. I want to go back, sit again, listen better, marvel at what my mother did and was so gifted at. A job that sometimes overwhelms me, yet I never heard or saw any reason to believe that it wasn't just effortless for her, though it could not have been. Then the discussions, and the horrible music that we still try to mimic and wonder why no one understands, and why it is so unspeakably funny. You have transported me to a place I pray I have created at least a sliver of in my own home. A place, I believe we will once again sit at, only with even grander implications. So priceless!

SimplicioNovember 12, 2021

The ultimate purpose of the Restored Gospel is not to leave us "as the angels which are in heaven." (Matthew 22:30) "But to which of the angels hath He said at any time, 'Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies the footstool of thy feet?' Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to do service for the sake of them that shall inherit salvation?" (Hebrews 1:13-14)

MaryNovember 12, 2021

Excellent article, very well thought out and backed up with logic and actual scripture. The idea of polygamy and that I may be forced to live it at some point tormented me for years, ever since I was a girl. Its only been in recent years that I have found a little peace on the matter after the spirit reassured me. I know many women who still are tormented by this idea, its pretty common. I find that the conversations and rationalizing surrounding polygamy always seem to involve warped and sexist thinking. Hopefully as a people we can begin to evolve and view things with more logic and clarity, like in this article. If you truly believe that God loves his daughters and sons equally and wants them all to be happy and saved in the eternities, the old ways of looking at it fall apart. This article gives me hope for my ancestors that practiced polygamy, I always mourned the unfairness of it all and how much pain it caused the women back then.

James W ScottNovember 12, 2021

I’ve read with interest your essays on polygamy and commend your views and conclusions on the three mystery versus in D&C 132. I tend to agree with your conclusions re the somewhat obscure meaning of the tenets taught in these versus. I’d like to offer a few comments on the idea that motherhood and child bearing are a sacrifice of similar import as the atonement. The Lord’s sacrifice and even Abraham’s obedience are horrendously more horrific than the sacrifice of having children. (And I’m certainly in awe of my own wife’s suffering 5 times for our children.) In the vernacular of today’s attitudes toward child bearing it seems, at least in America that anyone having more than two children are the exception and in some cases an imposition on the resources of society and that the woman that has children is making an enormous sacrifice of opportunity and beauty. Many women in the 19th century gave birth to 12 or more and seemingly forgot Eve's ‘curse’, the pain and acceptance of 18 or more years of responsibility. The separation of the sex act and having children has become a major issue. President Spencer W Kimball complained the “veneration of the orgasm” (Conf Report, Nov 1974) has replaced the intimacy of giving birth to and caring for and bringing children to ‘the joy and happiness of a posterity’. ‘Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward” Ps 127:3. In taking umbrage to that sacrificial view can I point out that Eve after hearing the curse of child bearing testified that were it not for her transgression they would not have had children and she gloried in that ‘curse’, that sorrows would multiply AND conception. In fact not having children became a major stumbling block for many in the scriptures: Rachel and Leah, and their handmaids, entered into a major competition to see who could provide the most offspring, even to prostituting Jacob over some mandrake stems. Hannah plead with the Lord for Samuel over the shame of not having any children while her wife mate did. The struggling of single women in Isa 4:1 where seven women vied for a husband’s name and attendant child bearing. Tamar prostituted herself with Judah for children when he refused to marry her to his son Er. Even Emma had trouble having and keeping her offspring alive and healthy. Mrs. Thomas Kane, the peacemaker, in their journey to Salt Lake to defuse the US Army’s entry into the SL valley overnighted in a polygamous household. She wrote that while she was outraged over the idea of polygamy commented that there was no animosity between wives and that they got along well and the household was run in a wonderfully efficient and peaceful manner.

Judy PetersonNovember 12, 2021

Wow! This is SO GOOD! “Mormon myths” abound, particularly in my generation (I’m 80 yrs old) of lifelong active members. I have come to many of these truths on my own, of course under the guidance of the Spirit) and it’s so encouraging to see them in public print. Thank you !

Lorie N DavisNovember 12, 2021

I've just read that article on the sacrifice of Abraham, Sarah, and Hagar, and found it wonderfully intelligent, analytical, logical, and uplifting.  One thing did bother me slightly, though, how come the "sacrifice" of polygamy is more attributed to men, when it is actually the women who suffer the most?  Simply in a physical sense, in the pioneer days of polygamy, the women often had to support themselves and their children with little aid from the father, who was usually on a mission or tending to his other families.     It doesn't seem such a sacrifice to men to have multiple sexual partners (which has always been billes as a thrill for men), or very many children born to them (unless the worry to men is about how they can support such a huge number of persons financially and emotionally). On the other hand, actually living with a number of wives may be confusing to men in trying to adjust daily or weekly to all the differing personalities of the wives -- since men claim they can never understand an individual woman in the first place. I'll bet there is a lot about the sacrifice of Sarah that remains unrecorded, since it is men who write the scriptures.  What were HER revelations from God?  Yes, she wanted children for her beloved husband, but to GIVE him another wife to be the mother of his children?  HOW UTTERLY WRENCHING if (as I believe) the Lord spoke to Sarah and actually commanded her to give Hagar to Abraham! Might that not have been a sacrifice to Sarah, equal to Abraham's command to sacrifice his son?  And what were the humiliations of Hagar, handed over like a bought brood-are to an old man?  Was she, too, commanded by revelation to accept this sacrifice? Interesting, too, that Sarah's sacrifice was commanded YEARS before Abraham's sacrifice was commanded.  But Sarah met the command, sacrificed her sacred, intimate relationship with her husband to give him another woman as a sexual partner, AND for that other woman to be the first mother to her beloved Abraham's promised seed.  Talk about a double, agonizing sacrifice!  You and I might appreciate the depth of that sacrifice, but could ANY MAN understand what two such sacrifices would mean to an loving and faithful wife?  I do not think so. Someday we will be able to view all these scriptural stories from the woman's point of view, physically and emotionally.  It will be a final assuaging of all women's painful dismissal in men-written scriptures, and a COLOSSAL eye-opener for all the men in the world!

gary bealNovember 12, 2021

My wife and I read both of these articles and were greatly blessed and uplifted. We completely “bought” the interpretation and reasoning of the first article and found it sound and doctrinal. I do have a couple of issues to raise with the “implications” put forth in the second article, though in general concurrence with its logic and conclusion. On the topic of a “sex ratio” in the afterlife, I’m not sure I agree with the assertion that there is no doctrinal basis for assuming more women than men. If we assume that in the pre-existence the sex ratio was 1 to 1, what happened to that ratio when the Sons of Perdition were cast out? Some posit that this portion was as many as one-third of God’s spirits who were cast out of heaven. They were not “sons and daughters” of Perdition, but only sons. And after this life, only men will be assigned to outer darkness. Brigham held this view, as do many (but not) all of the brethren who have spoken on the topic since then. In our Temple endowment, women are pronounced clean in ways that men are not; it doesn’t seem reasonable that all men will overcome their uncleanness in this life. These doctrinal observations argue against the 1 to 1 sex ratio in the resurrection. The article states that if one believes polygamy is “ubiquitous” in the celestial kingdom, there must be at least twice as many women as men. In the history of the church 1840-1890, polygamy was “ubiquitous” (everywhere present) yet only about 3% of the men practiced polygamy. It didn’t require that there be twice as many women for it to work. For me, the logic of that position just doesn’t hold up, nor comport with early church experience. The third area that raises questions is in the arena of a man in this life, who after his wife dies, marries another wife “for time and all eternity.” Whether this constitutes a sacrifice or not for the 2nd wife, she nevertheless freely enters that covenant without being commanded. You point out that the brethren anticipate consequences of Temple covenants in the hereafter by not requiring a child of faithless parent(s) to be sealed again. If plural marriage is always a sacrifice akin to Abraham’s, why would the brethren not facilitate stopping that unnecessary sacrifice? I have read (not nearly as much as the author[s] of these articles) about some of the experiences of polygamous wives in the early days of the church. My observation is that not all of them saw or experienced polygamy as a painful, singular Abrahamic-type sacrifice. I fully agree that many (perhaps even most?) saw polygamy that way, but the interpretation published seems to allow little room for actual participating women to see it as something other than sacrificial. Lastly, the second article seems to allow no need or requirement for ever requiring a woman in the hereafter to live “the Law of Sarah” (D&C132:65). My understanding is that God never gives a law or commandment that is strictly temporal or worldly. For reasons that are too sacred to be discussed here, it is my belief that polygamy does have a role to play in our eternal progression, but perhaps in a situation similar in context to the one the author so beautifully explains in the first article. Please know that nothing I have written above should detract from the beautiful and profound discussion of polygamy in the first article, but only perhaps quibbles with some of the implications of these profound insights in the second article.

JudyNovember 12, 2021

I agree with the advice about always honoring agency. I feel the most important thing is to let the child know of your love and NEVER GIVE UP! Our family experienced a situation like this, but our child eventually came back and is a strong member and an example to many.

Catrina GarnerNovember 12, 2021

Thank you for your article! I 100% agree! Could I possibly share your article on Facebook with others? I am currently posting daily gratitude quotes every day and will for the month of November and I would love to share your article on Thanksgiving Day with your name of course credited to the article. But if this isn’t allowed I understand. Thank you

JeanNovember 12, 2021

I love the advice you gave to this concerned mother. I love how "agency" is part of the gospel plan. It was so important that God chose it over Satan's plan of forced obedience. I also love the knowledge that we have a Heavenly Father and a Heavenly Mother who is more concerned about our children than we are. I had an experience with one of my children when he was a teenager. He got into some serious trouble and had to have a probation officer. I was so upset with him and ready to read the riot act to him. However, I decided to go to the temple first. For me, the veil is very thin in the celestial room. It was there that I prayed fervently for this child and asked Heavenly Father to give me revelation for him. I felt impressed to show him an increase of love. This was opposite to how I felt. He did turn his life around and after many years has come back to the gospel. I know every child is unique but I highly recommend asking Heavenly Father, who loves your child deeply, for revelation on how to treat your situation.

Colleen StoutNovember 12, 2021

Thank you Vivian for the wonderful analogy and reminder about tables in scriptures, and our own lives. When our large family talks of where they would like to be once again, it would be around our family table. We would not leave in a hurry, as it was too much fun to stay and talk and enjoy one another. No other place in our home could qualify for that special bonding. Colleen Stout

Michele NoelNovember 12, 2021

Thank you, Vivian, for a refreshing view of our need for familial connectedness as a strengthening paradigm about our place in the plan of salvation. Beautiful! I have followed your written and audio work for decades and shared them with my family endlessly. We are still waiting for your book on the garden story. God Watches!

Harold RustNovember 11, 2021

Thank you for a lengthy, carefully referenced, deeply thoughtful, and powerfully emotional discussion of the most universal of all social relationships on earth that just happens to be so greatly misunderstood by many. I look forward to the "continued" discussion because the over-riding question in today's world where lots of different arrangements between men and women are socially acceptable is: "If a man can have more than one wife, why not the reverse?" I have formulated what for me is an answer consistent with all other doctrine of the Church but which I have not seen written or spoken anywhere in scriptures or by the prophets. I'll therefore be interested in what author Cassler has as an answer.

Kay Wiemer GerkeNovember 11, 2021

Beautifully written and inspiring article. Thank you for sharing this.

Judy PetersonNovember 11, 2021

This article effectively supports the idea that we have A Mother in Heaven, not an assortment of mothers, an idea which I’ve heard expressed by some people recently as we’ve started having discussions about our Mother. I’ve seen several other sources saying the law of marriage is a man and a woman. As the author points out, this does not preclude an alternate interpretation, but i think the Lord intends to be clear on key doctrines and would be explicit if plural marriage were the law of Heaven. I think that’s a misconception left over from “the old days:” Policies regarding sealing of deceased couples with multiple spouses has changed over the years. It would be helpful to know more about the principles behind our current policy of sharing every possible combination of spouses, as well as living men sealed to both deceased and living spouses.

Sophia McLaughlinNovember 11, 2021

I'd like to make another clarification. "Only if we acquit ourselves well in the roles of spouse and parent in this probationary state are we entitled to perpetuate those roles in an eternal marriage state in the hereafter." Omit the "only", and I'll agree with you fully. According to modern-day prophets, marriage in the hereafter will also be made available to righteous men and women who lived under circumstances that prevented them from receiving this blessing in mortality.

Sophia McLaughlinNovember 11, 2021

I'd like to make a correction. You say that tv ose who do not qualify for the fullness of the celestial kingdom will remain single. Perhaps you meant "fullness" to stand for exaltation, and in that case we do agree. I did want to point out that there will be those who inherit the celestial kingdom singly, marrriage is only required for exaltation within the celestial kingdom, but it is not required to enjoy living with the Father and the fullness of his company.

Phillip C. SmithyNovember 11, 2021

Very thoughtful and insightful. Thank you.

karell binghamNovember 11, 2021

Abraham was to be the great head of a chosen nation. Would he obey? He had been given the promise that his posterity would be as the sands of the sea. Did he have enough faith to believe beyond mortal understanding that the Lord would keep his word, even if he killed his only son? That is why the Abrahamic test is often called the test of incongruity. A test that flies in the face of what has been understood. To my feeling, polygamy was this kind of test for Joseph. He truly was a great man of God! Thanks for your help in understanding this sometimes troubling commandment!

James ScottNovember 11, 2021

I enjoyed your exposition and illumination of D&C 132 re polygamy, and I’m looking forward to the continuation. Commenting on Abraham’s sacrifice of Isaac. This represention of the Lord’s own sacrifice, (Jacob 4: which is a similitude of God and his Only Begotten Son.) is horror filled and mortifying in its conception as was the crucifixion of the Lord. Could I point out that the faith of Abraham was strengthened by the teaching that he knew the promises could be fulfilled by Isaac being raised from the dead. The lecture on faith in Hebrews 11 show his expectation. 17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, 18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: 19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure. The same figure Jacob understood. He had to have understood the doctrine of resurrection and glory to have had the faith that God could raise Isaac from the dead to fulfill the promises. Hagar and Ishmael: the promises given to Abraham apply equally to Ishmael and Abraham saw to the welfare of his son. Ishmael helped and attended the burial of his father, (Gen 25:8,9). Moreover, Ishmael had twelve sons mirroring the heritage of Jacob’s twelve sons. However, Abraham knew that Isaac was the son of promise, (Gen 17, Gal 4,5)

Michele NoelNovember 11, 2021

Fantastic! Worth the read! Thank you Valerie.

Maryann TaylorNovember 11, 2021

This is beautiful. I have always known that my marriage isn't just between two people, but that the Savior is an essential third partner with us. Thank you for reminding us of the symbolic meaning of the altars in the temple.

AJ CurrieNovember 10, 2021

I can think of no better definition of self-esteem than D&C 121:45. And, that verse even explains the one sure way to obtain true self-esteem: "Let thy bowels also be full of charity towards all men, and to the household of faith, and let virtue garnish thy thoughts unceasingly; then shall thy confidence wax strong in the presence of God;...." How could anyone have more self-esteem than to be confident standing before God?

brooks sNovember 10, 2021

Wow. Would love for you to write another book. Let me know when your next one is published. Love your writing style.

Jeff LindsayNovember 10, 2021

Thank you for this valuable information and for your informed perspective. It seems that it's increasingly important for parents to pay attention to what is happening with their kids at school. I think you made a wise move to turn to homeschooling for the beginning of your child's education.

Sandy KerrNovember 10, 2021

Thank you for sharing this inspiring story and brightening my day!

Maryann TaylorNovember 10, 2021

My husband installed shelves on the inside of my pantry door. I didn't think there was enough room to do this and still be able to close the door. Oh, boy, was I wrong! I can't believe how much I can store on these shelves. I like the reminder of how much room is between the tops of kitchen cabinets and the ceiling in many homes--dead space that can hold a lot---keep in mind that it will be warm up there, so store things that you rotate more often.

Gail KNovember 10, 2021

Wonderful story of a good man. Thank you for sharing this, it reminds us during tough times, that there are other's who have it tougher. God bless this man, I would give him my last $5.00 to feed his daughter. This has opened my eyes to be more aware of those around us, and look for that sadden eye that is waiting for God's blessing that I can assist him with. May I be God's hands to bless others.

Scot ProctorNovember 10, 2021

The film is available on DVD from Seagull Book. We've now added that information above, thank you for asking!

Ronya SimmonsNovember 10, 2021

Will this film be screened outside of Utah? Can it be ordered on DVD or is it available through live streaming or some other media?

Pam RoderNovember 9, 2021

Always grand to hear/read Patrick Degn. Brilliant mind that causes me to smile agree and wish I could say things as well as he. Thank you for the wonderful insight from our paltry human view of God and His "Alpha and Omega" perspective. Thank you Patrick.

BoBNovember 9, 2021

I offended an investigator recently who used this, where's the blood question, for his pretext to not put any serious effort into examining the Book of Mormon or its claims. I offended him because I just could not understand what the problem was. We do not have a detailed step by step drawn out picture of the precise events of that evening. By the way, the Book of Mormon is a book of doctrine not court room minutes. Nephi is explaining God's instructions and reasoning for why and how they were to proceed. He is not performing a dramatic reenactment. If you read the pertinent verses in 1 Nephi 4 you should realize this was not a thirty second mugging. Nephi spent time there with drunken Laban and with the Lord. He took time to ponder, pray, respond, deliberate. What verse 19 does not say is I cut off Laban's head and then proceeded to remove his clothing ( Wow. I really did this in the wrong order. Gosh. That was stupid.) What it does say is after I cut off his head, I took his clothes and put them on. Why was Nephi holding Laban's sword prior to having any thought about killing him. The most logical/reasonable answer is he was removing drunken Laban's clothing. Remember the mission is to get the plates. This is simple (I really don't mean to be a jerk, but) pretty obvious, and based on the fragments of information concerning what happened that evening, the most logical and rational idea concerning how Nephi proceeded. There was lots of blood. Of course there was, but not on Laban's clothes. They had been removed. This is far more economical than saying when Nephi says, 'I picked him up by the hair of his head and cut it off.' that he doesn't mean 'I cut it off'. No, Nephi cut off Laban's head and put on his clothes, just as the passage relates. My investigator friend was troubled that I would insinuate Nephi took his clothes off first. "The passage doesn't say that." Neither does it say he took them off after the head smiting." It also doesn't say he put on his sandals in the morning and ate his mush, but I bet he did. It also doesn't say he dragged Laban to a dark nearby area so as not to be seen, but I bet he did. If someone rejects the BOM because of 'where is the blood?' They really aren't very interested anyway or have other issues with the BOM or the Church or our religion because frankly that's just pretty weak.

Doris WilliamsNovember 9, 2021

Made me laugh out loud! Loved it. Thank you

PaulaNovember 9, 2021

Thank you so much for expressing/validating the feelings I've had for 40 years. Your thorough, well-thought-out and articulate essay will give others pause for thought.

Dan EllsworthNovember 9, 2021

I'm glad this article was helpful for you, friends. MAbernethy, yours is a good question, and I'm not sure why we don't have specific instructions for exorcism. I performed two on my mission, and I basically did what I heard other missionaries and members had done: raise the right arm to the square and command it to leave in the name of Christ. But I personally think a simple command in the name of Christ is sufficient. As to why we don't see more open manifestations of possession? It's very common in other parts of the world; in Western societies, Satan seems to want to leave us with the impression that he doesn't even exist.

Todd RNovember 9, 2021

I found more scriptural support for why Nephi was justified in killing Laban in Doctrine and Covenants section 98:23-38. It says in effect don't react to your enemy when they "smite you" two times, and if you spare them after the third time you and your posterity would have eternal rewards, "31 Nevertheless, thine enemy IS IN THINE HANDS; and if thou rewardest him according to his works thou art justified; IF HE HAS SOUGHT THY LIFE, AND THY LIFE IS ENDARGERED BY HIM, thine enemy IS IN THINE HANDS AND THOUGH ART JUSTIFIED. 32 Behold, THIS IS THE LAW I GAVE UNTO MY SERVANT NEPHI, and thy fathers, Joseph, and Jacob, and Isaac, and Abraham, and all mine ancient prophets and apostles. Nephi's account explicitly lists two times that Laban tried to kill them, and we can easily deduce that as and "elder of the Jews", Laban had tried to kill his father, just like the elders of the Jews killed the Savior. (No wonder, Laban and Lemuel said "it was a hard thing" to ask them to go back and face Laban when he had already tried to kill their father) Nephi stated twice that "Behold THE LORD HATH DELIVERED HIM INTO THY HANDS" which is the same wording as the D&C. Nephi wrote this account approximately 30 years after it happened and due to the difficulty of writing on plates, it is not surprising that he would not give every little detail of what the spirit may have told him, but what he did write is absolutely consistent with the law in the D&C, and the Lord told Joseph Smith that this was the law that he taught Nephi.

LewisNovember 9, 2021

You know what I am grateful for? Your articles! They bring such joy and happiness into my life. Please keep writing. You have such wonderful insights, and tell such beautiful stories.

Bradley J. KramerNovember 9, 2021

Along these lines, I think of the sealing altar as the modern ark of the covenant--the sealing room being an extension of the celestial room (or holy of holies) and the participants being the cheribim on opposite sides of the altar leaning over the altar with their faces towards each other (Exo. 25:9-20). Our sealings, therefore, reflect the everlasting "marriage" covenant God made with Israel and show how integrally involved he is with them (Lev. 26:9-13; Isa. 54:4-6; etc.)

Maxine McCoyNovember 8, 2021

This was one of the best articles I’ve read for a very long time. Well written and the wisdom it contains is so needed for our times. Good job!

ElaineNovember 8, 2021

That was a beautiful meaningful story. Thanks for the reminder to let our lights shine:)

Wally GoddardNovember 8, 2021

Excellent insights! It is worth noting that the scientific community turned squarely against self-esteem in 1983 with Susan Harter's review of research. Any continuing enthusiasm for self-esteem is primarily driven by pop psychology.

Haze KompelienNovember 8, 2021

"If He is the Alpha and Omega, doesn’t that suggest a beginning and an end, or are those words also gateways to more iconoclastic shenanigans?" Smiled so much at this line! And I think I would really love your mom, after reading "One of the many gems she dropped on me was, “Look, son, the church comforts the disturbed and disturbs the comfortable.”

Maryann TaylorNovember 8, 2021

This is a great reminder for people who are dating to really check out their potential dates. An acquaintance of mine was dating through a website for church members. They soon discovered that some of the potential dates were involved in divorce proceedings that were not yet final. Unfortunately, people need to be extremely cautious and get as much information as possible about potential dates. As to the question of whether to alert the woman who has a husband that is straying? I would certainly want someone to tell me!

S LambertNovember 8, 2021

I really enjoyed your article. Just FYI, the correct attribution for the "old time rail journey" quote is the Unitarian Minister Jenkin Lloyd Jones as quoted by President Gordon B. Hinckley.

Cynthia DeckerNovember 8, 2021

Love the post...had to look up some of the Latin but it was a pleasure. Thank you.

Sandy KerrNovember 8, 2021

Great insight, beautifully expressed! Thank you...

LexaGraemeNovember 8, 2021

Marvelous read! Thank you very much. I love the Chesterton quotes.

Will KimlingerNovember 8, 2021

Well said!

GTONovember 8, 2021

President Hinckley was quoting Jenkin Lloyd Jones. Great article! Thanks.

Breck EnglandNovember 8, 2021

Heather, you are right. I had a feeling I should include this point and failed to do so. As you say, the plan of God applies to every stage of life, premortal, mortal, and postmortal. It is a plan of mercy for everyone. I should also have added that God deals with every one of his children separately and individually. In his omniscience He takes every one of their circumstances into account in determining the degree of glory to which they will attain. This concept is particularly important for those who for one reason or another don't seem to "fit" into the eternal pattern of exaltation. We are in no position to judge the eternal destiny of anyone. That is our Savior's job.

Ray CooperNovember 8, 2021

Honestly, one of the best posts I have read. You absolutely nailed me to a tee. Thank-you for your thoughts.

Ken ButlerNovember 8, 2021

My this way that way thoughts too, but exceptionally well expressed. Kudos. .

Lisa CroftNovember 8, 2021


Jacob HessNovember 8, 2021

Two other responses I've received: (1) Thanks for this analysis. I work in the pharmaceutical field, but not in Drug Product, in which this gene therapy jab is associated. I’m also not a bio or pharmacology specialist. But I still get questions from many people. I have been advising everyone who has asked, and my entire family, that they should not have this shot administered to any children (18 and under) unless that child has severe health issues that are likely to result in severe reaction to the Covid infection. The World Health Organization still has the official position that, since children almost never have any significant symptoms, and almost none who don’t have other huge health issues have died, there is no justification for subjecting them to higher risk by administering the so-call vaccine. I am appalled that the CDC, the FDA and the manufacturers have by-passed all the protocols that have been required for many decades for a drug to be approved. I was able to accept “emergency authorization” for adults, especially those in high risk situations. The rest is just plain irresponsible. I can only assume the following: some have great delusions of power and are now addicted to that; some feel compelled to take this position in order to maintain their positions and jobs (giving in to peer pressure); or greed for the money involved. Remember that reportedly 20 to 25% of medical professionals have not received the jab. Most of those will be or are already out of a job because of their own ethics. If anyone, as a parent, has even an inkling that perhaps his or her child should be administered this vaccine, please fast and pray after as much study of the test results (not just what is touted by the FDA, CDC, and medical establishment). ************* (2) Given what was presented in this post (and it seems to have been done in a fairly even handed manner) I would agree the studies were too small, and the time periods involved too short. Additional clinical studies seem to be justified/needed. I think one point the government administrators and the companies seem to be avoiding is that the main benefit to be derived from vaccinating millions of children is the herd immunity aspect of the process. It needs to be well proven that we wouldn’t be putting those millions of children at an unnecessary level of risk to obtain that benefit – I agree the submitted studies are not rigorous enough to prove that no significant harm is being done.

Lynette NicollNovember 8, 2021

Bravo!! I’m so grateful for this article!!! Thank you! I will be using this information again and again!

Frank E MerrillNovember 8, 2021

Far too many people are willing to serve God in an advisory capacity.

Gordon ManvilleNovember 7, 2021

I have been touched lately as I have found 5 second and third cousins that were imprisoned In Auschwitz. They were wonderful people. One was a first world war veteran. He and his wife volunteered to drive ambulance for the French army until that army fell. They were put to death at Auschwitz within 24 hours of arrival. The other family was a mother and her adult son and adult granddaughter. They were Jewish. Another one was trnsferred to Bergen Belsen and lived ot be liverated.

Leroy HaleNovember 7, 2021

I have experience many times the blessings of prayer. We as a heavenly family are so tied to our Father in Heaven. Praying in the name of Jesus Christ is so important. Sometimes individuals will rush when closing their prayer and not realizing how important the closing in THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST is.

Bonnie CaldwellNovember 7, 2021

Beautiful article! Thanks for sharing!

Becky WilliamsNovember 7, 2021

I am trying to find out when the church first introduced the concept of a year's supply. I would love to read what was said at the time. Did it start out as a general principle and then get more detailed? I did find this article in 1976 but would like to go back further:

Debra HessNovember 6, 2021

No Shots for children, that would be risking their lives for too many unknowns.... many deaths have occurred and many teens now have life long heart problems after getting it. Why risk your children's health when the recovery of the virus is almost 100 %! Thank you for the article, and for NOT following the lies from the CDC and from's not about safe guarding the children, it's all about making billions for the drug companies and for those tied into them.

BoBNovember 6, 2021

Wow. Thank you.

Jacob HessNovember 6, 2021

Megan – you’re right to be concerned about this. I have too – and any faithful Saint should be. You’re right that prophetic counsel will increasingly “break from what the noisy, contentious world tells us is true.” In this case, of course, prophets have agreed with what the world is saying. Regardless, it hasn’t been easy for many to follow. You’re right they have encouraged members embrace vaccination for many things, including COVID-19. But it’s also the case, as they state in their message, that this is predicated on the vaccine being truly “safe and effective.” They simply wouldn’t advise the course if they weren’t assured it was – hence the relevance of this due diligence inquiry. My primary concern throughout this has been its impact on our faith and unity – and I’ve written about it elsewhere extensively: (In my experience, Meridian Magazine editors and contributors constantly speak of sustaining the prophet). Clod Doc – I’m sorry to hear about the health issues you’re having post-vaccination. I do think you’re right we need to have a more transparent, forthright public conversation about that – as Senator Mike Lee and others have called for. Hoping the Lord can lead you to healing. B. H. Murray – in the very same moment you lay out these stats, others will quote official sources saying “no deaths have been officially connected to the vaccines.” Who is to be believed? Even the post-vaccine deaths and injuries are subject to competing interpretive frameworks and narratives. It’s downright confusing! But post-treatment confusion is something others have explored in great depth (see “Is it me or my medicine” by Boston sociologist David Karp. I’m working on another piece on exactly this – would love to hear what you think. Tandart – The purpose of this is not simply to spread doubt, but to raise honest questions about data on which millions of parents will not only get their children vaccinated, but likely be forced to. If there were ever a public issue worth critically examining fully, this would be it! Alan –The financial incentives are obvious. But I do think it’s going too far to say it’s “not about saving the children.” I believe most people on all sides of this really do want to keep people healthy – young and old – they just have very different beliefs about the best way to pursue it. Really important question, Kevin. It’s true that what we’ve almost always heard is if we don’t act quickly to vaccinate, that failure will *allow* the virus to mutate. The other line of thinking (that you don’t hear as often, but which deserves a lot more consideration) is that it’s precisely when a virus runs into a mass vaccine barricade, that it’s forced to mutate. From the latter view, it’s the mass vaccination itself that prompts escalating mutations – rather than being the key to stop them.

RanaeNovember 6, 2021

The vaccine is what forces the virus to mutate into something the vaccine does not protect against. Natural immunity appears to be protective against all forms of the virus. Without natural herd immunity, the strains that bypass the vaccine are the ones that survive to spread throughout the population.

SandyNovember 6, 2021

The Prophet has "urged" adults to get the vaccine but he has also told us that we need to "hear Him". I think that is what we are being encouraged to do --get our own revelation for ourselves and our family. In order to "study it out in our minds and then ask" we need to have facts such as these presented to us.

RoseAnn BensonNovember 6, 2021

Diane-I loved the context and lessons you drew out of this!

Ronald PolsleyNovember 6, 2021

It must be understood that members of the CDC staff resigned in protest over giving this jab to children. Thousands of nurses that insist you get the flu vaccine say no thanks to this truly unproven new system, they are not ignorant and they are not sheep. We are commanded to not blindly follow anyone.

Linda WillisNovember 5, 2021

Few doctrines make more perfect sense than the fact that we have Parents in Heaven. The use of the term Heavenly Parents in General Conference the past 10 years far exceeds all previous conferences. President Ballard referred to Moses 1:39 (most frequently quoted Conference scripture) by saying, "For behold this is 'their' work and 'their' glory..." Hallelujah!

Clod DocNovember 5, 2021

After having the shots, I now have Atrial fibrillation. I have never had heart problems before and when I went to the doctor and suggested that my problem might have been caused by the vaccine he replied that sh*t happens. I don't like that answer and the medications I have to take to prevent a stroke or death. I may just be the 1% that are affected this way, but my quality of life matters. Since then my wife, immuno-compromised and unvaccinated, tested positive for Covid. She was miserable for a couple of weeks, but survived. I had cold symptoms for 3-4 days. Did the shots prevent me from worse symptoms?? Who knows, but I'm concerned about my grandchildren being forced to take the shots.

Lawrence J SteimleNovember 5, 2021

Glad to see this article and the comments supporting skepticism. And to Tandart, there are experts on both/all sides of this issue. How do you choose an expert? I would rather get the virus than the shot.

Steve DoneganNovember 5, 2021

We have a sign that says: Satan knows your name, but calls you by your sin. God knows your sin, but calls you by your name.

Heather RiemanNovember 5, 2021

While I understand the purpose of your article to focus our attention on eternal progression the way it is presented missed one very important teaching from many general authorities. There are many who do not have the opportunity in mortality to make the covenant associated with eternal marriage. Those people have been promised that they will be given that opportunity after they leave mortality. I feel like you missed the opportunity to point out that the order of progression will extend after we leave mortality.

Lexie StatonNovember 5, 2021

After watching the Nov. 2 roundtable discussion about vaccine injuries and mandates led by Senator Ron Johnson, and hearing the testimony of Stephanie de Garay regarding the life altering health consequences her 12 year old daughter Maddie experienced by participating in a Pfizer vaccine trial for 12-15 year olds and the lack of reporting/coverup of these incidents by those who conducted the trial, I was left seriously doubting the integrity of the data we are given regarding the efficacy and safety of these vaccines. Additionally, Dr. Suneel Dhand has a video on YouTube detailing disturbing issues in how the Pfizer trials are conducted in some places, and again, I was left with the feeling that these people cannot be trusted. VIGILANCE is needed when it comes to our children and grandchildren.

MeganNovember 5, 2021

My biggest concern is that the prophet himself to us to get this vaccine. I don't see that mentioned here. The counsel we received from the prophet will increasingly break from what the noisy, contentious world tells us is true. And it won't be easy to follow. I wish we heard more of the prophet's counsel from Meridian Magazine.

TerriNovember 5, 2021

This is a beautifully sculpted essay on a subject that is extremely valuable to know about and understand in our day to day routines. Demonic reign is everywhere. once it is recognized, with a clear understanding of their multiple tactics and their motivations, their power and influence can be drastically reduced in our lives. So thank you for sharing your wisdom.

David SampsonNovember 5, 2021

I agree with the analysis although nothing is said about the possibility that the woman's motive may be anger and retaliation on this man. Motives are seldom simple and she may have many aspects to her reason for wanting to tell the wife, but if part of her motive is to retaliate against him, hoping to hurt him back then, in my opinion, that would indicate to me that she should walk away and work on her own need for repentance.

GregNovember 5, 2021

Fauci has obfuscated on so many levels, he is untrustworthy. Big Pharma is in it for the money, can we trust them? Do I have to even mention politicians? You do you and I will do me.

HalNovember 5, 2021

I wonder if there are any studies to determine how well children are taught to deal with the inevitable disappointments in life and the effect that has on suicidal thoughts. When I majored in psychology some 40 years ago, there seemed to be a lot of evidence to indicate that children who were protected from disappointment, hardship, and struggles in childhood never learned to cope with these normal life events. When these protected children were later faced with unpleasant situations during their adolescent years, (that the parents could not shield them from), these children were overwhelmed to the point of attempting suicide because they had no experience in coping with the normal stresses of life. The case that stood out to me was a young girl whose parents made sure she was never disappointed. If it rained the day of a planned picnic, they took her to a movie. They did everything they could to protect her from any and all events that might make her sad or anxious. When this girl reached her mid-teens, she became romantically involved with a boy who later rejected her. This was a disappointment her parents could not protect her from and, because she had never learned to deal with disappointment in her childhood, she was devastated and attempted to take her own life. This may be an over-simplified example, but I believe children need to be taught to deal with unpleasant events throughout their lives. Doing so makes them resilient and better able to cope with the "slings and arrows" that inevitably come in life.

B. H. MurrayNovember 5, 2021

We hear that the Covid vaccines are SAFE and EFFECTIVE. How effective? We were told that the Pfizer vaccine was 95% effective. Now scientific studies from Israel are telling us the Pfizer vaccine is only 42% effective. People are asked to take two vaccines. Then they found out that those who are fully vaccinated can still get Covid and can still spread Covid, and they are still required to wear masks. Now we are also told we will need to get booster shots every 4-6 months. For how many years will we be asked to take boosters every 4-6 months? Do you call that EFFECTIVE? Now let's talk about how SAFE these covid shots are. Between December 14, 2020 and October 15, 2021, there have been 818,044 adverse events reported to VAERS (an arm of the CDC for reporting adverse effects and deaths from the covid vaccines.) There have been 17,128 deaths. 117,399 of the adverse events were serious injuries. VAERS only reports 1% of actual vaccine effects. There were 1,200 cases of myocarditis and pericarditis in 16-24-year olds. The highest rates are in the youngest kids according to Dr. Meryl Nass. Does that sound SAFE to you? Maybe these numbers are considered statistically safe, based on how many millions of doses have been given out, but when little children have a statistical chance of 0% of dying from Covid, why would anyone want to take any kind of a chance on these vaccines? It is impossible to know what their long term effects will be in many areas, including fertility which will matter to these kids in the future.

JessNovember 5, 2021

I think also honest enough is a valid question- the pharmaceutical company making many of these vaccines has just been caught (again) lying about trial safety data. That’s a hard thing to trust when all of the pharmaceutical companies have paid out billions of dollars in criminal fines and settlements because they were intentionally dishonest and bribed doctors, hid or destroyed critical information from safety trials multiple times. That kind of trust once broken is hard to win back- but here again, there is evidence of dishonesty in the all of the clinical safety trials- but especially the pediatric trials. How can we trust not only our health but our children to serial offenders?

Dale TerryNovember 5, 2021

Thank you for publishing an article that asks questions that many parents have about the data and how it is used. Seems like anyone could take the same data sample and justify any result they are looking for.

Lynn JohnsonNovember 5, 2021

I disagree with the analysis. The question is, what would the young woman want if positions were reversed? Would she want to know? If she decides the answer is yes, then she has a moral duty to approach the wife, and try to figure out what the wife wants. So if it were me, I would want to know and so I would approach the wife and at least offer information.

TandartNovember 5, 2021

I'm not sure what the purpose of this doubting opinion is. It sounds like a group of penguins who know a sea leopard is out there, but I won't be the first one into the water. So they wait until one of the community falls or is pushed into the water. Then they know whether the predator is there or not.Or maybe one is there but just not hungry at the moment. When I hire an expert to give me an opinion, I plan on taking that expert's advice. Get the shot or get the virus.

Alan WildNovember 5, 2021

The key thing here is what Fauci said, "Even though the chances of (a child) getting sick and seriously ill are small," This isn't about saving the children. It is about making additional billions for those purveying these troublesome shots, including Fauci himself. It is time to push back.

KevinNovember 5, 2021

I understand what you are saying. And thank you for the article. But could you address the issue of viral mutation if millions of children are allowed to naturally get the virus and build immunity? Aren't we risking this virus mutating into something that the vaccine no longer protects against?

Mary StosichNovember 4, 2021

After reading this article, I feel I have brushed against genius. It is easier to see the demonic in myself and race to visualize the patheticism of my state. Only then am I able to change. Thank you for an interesting and motivating article.

Ronald BarnesNovember 4, 2021

Without going into details, I have had direct confrontations with demons so I have first-hand knowledge of their existence.

lucy casablancaNovember 4, 2021

great article, thanks. I had always heard-read that the freezer method was to freeze 72 hours but you say 2 weeks. can you please clarify? What do you do to avoid food sweatting afterwards and going bad?

Maryann TaylorNovember 4, 2021

What a great article! However, I certainly don't "forget to turn" to the Lord or the scriptures for strength and guidance in family matters, and I have a hard time believing other saints "forget" as well. In fact, I think most of us are praying for our families, relationships, and problems on a regular basis! I have noticed that a lot of Meridian articles have titles that take a somewhat "finger-pointing" approach. It would be nice to have a more positive approach instead of titles that introduce the article with the idea that "You have fallen short here, and it's my job to set you straight!" Instead, let's have faith that most of the Saints are already trying to keep the commandments and to build their faith. The articles in Meridian are very valuable in strengthening that resolve and teaching gospel truths without the assumption that we are always failing.

Maryann TaylorNovember 4, 2021

This is so very timely right now! I believe that discouragement is probably the number #1 way that Satan sneaks into the minds of Latter-day Saints who are truly trying to be righteous. It is ironic that he uses the very gospel that will save us by twisting our perspective into believing the gospel is too hard-- that it is our burden to endure, instead of OUR HOPE! The healing key for me is feeling the love and deep compassion of Christ, manifested to me by the power of the Holy Ghost. It has been revealed to me through reading the Book of Mormon. We can be richly blessed through praying to feel the love of Christ in our hearts.

HelenNovember 4, 2021

A powerful, thought-provoking essay. Thank you.

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MAbernethyNovember 4, 2021

Excellent. So many thoughts I had never considered. I have one question, why was the casting out of evil spirits such a common part of Jesus' and the apostles' experience and not ours, or as you mention, that of the Book of Mormon peoples? Casting out evil spirits is something we never discuss with regard to our use of the priesthood, neither is there any reference to it in the Handbook of Instructions or previous Priesthood manuals that I'm aware.

KathleenNovember 3, 2021

. . . If I only had a brain!

LexaGraemeNovember 3, 2021

Good story. It must have looked like a parade!

HalNovember 3, 2021

Thank you for this wonderful insight. I, too, have had many "stings" in my life that resulted in wonderful blessings. Some of these "stings'" were so emotionally painful, I thought I would never recover. It is wonderful to have a testimony that we have a loving Father who knows what is best for us even if it is painful and may temporarily leave us wondering why we have to go through such a trial.

Vivian M AdamsNovember 3, 2021

This was a wonderful and instructive article. Thank you so much.

TerryNovember 3, 2021

I feel this article really portrayed those who were interviewed. It was a second witness both of my own struggle and how Heavenly Father spoke to me through it. Even through all the pressure around me, I felt peaceful and knew Heavenly Father gave me time to seek His will and come to understand more fully. It has been a significant, spiritual experience which i will draw on and cherish. I believe in and experience personal revelation and other's right to it as well. What a blessing it is for us to have a prophet who leads us and a Savior who died for us that we may repent and come to know Him better and be like Him!

Beth TeeplesNovember 3, 2021

Thank You for your description of Daniel & Nebuchadnezzar‘s dream. My heart was truly touched. I am so grateful for your insights for they’ve increased my desire to improve the tension I feel between truth and love. You’ve articulated the thoughts I’ve had for many years yet could not put down on paper. You are a fine and brilliant son of God!

Robert CowartNovember 2, 2021

I was baptized in Newport News Virginia in 1961 while serving in the USAF at Langley AFB. A few months later on a Sunday evening at the Sacrament meeting I was sitting in the back of the chapel and for the first time I was singing the words to "Oh My Father".When we came to" in the heavens are parents single,no the thought makes reason stare truth is reason truth eternal tells me I've a Mother there." I was not a person who cries easily but I was so overcome with that truth I started crying and could not stop until the meeting ended. I shall never forget that experience. Robert Cowart

Shauna PetersonNovember 2, 2021

Oh how I wish every Primary child (girls and boys alike) could be taught and internalize this doctrine so that for the next generation of Latter-day-Saints it is not some fringe, hushed doctrine, but an inclusive, valued and implemented culture where all can feel of their divine nature and worth as a child of God(s).

Annie JensenNovember 2, 2021

Nice, thanks.

stevie maireid mckennaNovember 2, 2021

That was a great article and a topic that should be more openly taught in Church. I joined the church when I was 14 and knew it was all true, everything that I learned. However, I began to feel this taboo about speaking of Heavenly Mother. I heard crazy non-sensible reasons why this idea developed. One was that she is so holy that Heavenly Father wanted to shield her from the knowledge of the sins that Her children were committing on earth. That implied that she was such an emotional weakling that knowledge of the sins we commit on earth would devastate her. That isn't a perfect being. There were others just as ludicrous. The fact remains, as you stated, that God or Elohim is the plural form. God is the exaltation of two beings Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother. Thanks for writing about this truth.

RitaNovember 2, 2021

My favorite memory of Halloween was the year my mom and I went to see Disney's "Fantasia". The "Night on Bald Mountain" piece, with its massive demon being overcome and subdued by Christianity, in the form of a line of lantern-bearing priests, the sacred music, and coming of dawn (the Light of Christ), made a huge impression on a 10 year old girl. We were Lutherans at the time, but I don't remember my parents mentioning anything about the Reformation. I left that church a few years later, hunting and searching for the answers neither it, nor any other church I looked at, could provide. When I found the CJCLDS, I again remembered the impressions I'd had as a child. 45 years later, I still love Halloween (I was a wood elf this year), but have an adult's understanding of just how that demon was conquered.

Charles (Russ) NickelNovember 2, 2021

For years I have been talking about Faith vs. Fear. I created sort of a meme where FEAR is an acronym for False Evidence Appearing Real and FAITH is an acronym for Full Acceptance In The Heart. I may not be original in this but I think I am. I'm happy to see your comments.

Bonnie A. CaldwellNovember 2, 2021

I loved this article, McArthur. Thank you for writing and researching this needed perspective. Loved meeting you in Chiang Mai!

Debbi M.November 2, 2021

TY once again for a beautiful and enlightening article! Truth resonates here, and clarifies so many of my thoughts and feelings. I am so thankful that you are willing to speak up and de-mystify so many concepts that our church culture (vs. the Gospel) has muddied. You go, girl! I cannot wait for further truths to be revealed about our Heavenly Mother.

Bonnie CaldwellNovember 2, 2021

Thank you for this article, McArther. It needed to be written!! Loved meeting you in Chiang Mai!!

CBroNovember 2, 2021

Heavenly Mother was essential to bring into existence the First Born, Jehovah, our Savior Jesus Christ. For that first birth there were only the three; Jehovah, Our Heavenly Father, and Our Heavenly Mother. After that I don't know how long it took for all of the rest of the inhabitants the earth to be born. We are all children of our Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother born to them in the same manner as their First Born.

Rita MillerNovember 2, 2021

A beautiful way of thinking. It appears reasonable and right to us, but to the rest of the Christian world, it's a rank h heresy. I have many friends, Baptists, Methodists, and others, who are quite averse to even the thought of God being both male and female. They see it as pagan Goddess worship, especially those who believe in "sola scriptura". Are there any books or articles that address their concerns?

Concerned MemberNovember 2, 2021

Point 1: When this comes up most members are really concerned about the reverence that needs to be shown to all our heavenly relatives. God the Father and Christ have been mocked and denigrated in speech and art for years. It’s not some secret we have a Heavenly Mother or that she has a role. What is more concerning is that members are using this Mother in Heaven approach in other mediums to justify praying and worshiping Heavenly Mother. Several members of my stake are actively praying to Her against the council from modern prophets and Christ himself who taught us how to pray. Additionally it is being used by some more progressive members as a way to say Heavenly Mother sides with me and Heavenly Father is just “Patriarchal”. People are trying a bottoms up approach to revelation and are trying to use this as a hidden catalyst to move members to justify other progressive ideologies. Most members who push this agenda want to change the definition of marriage and have issues with our binary gender construct. Point 2: This is life eternal is to know God the Father and Jesus Christ John 17:3. We barely even know much about God the Father. Our focus should be on Him and His Son. I think 600 references is a stretch as I have read most of the work on this and think writers are using confirmation bias. There are also over 500 references to Bread and 500 references to the Rivers. It doesn’t mean we need to be focusing more attention as a church on Bread and Rivers. We all acknowledge Her existence and believe She has an important role. Exactly what that role is has not been revealed. Heavenly Grandparents and Uncles and Aunts may also play a role. Point 3: Our relationship with Christ should be the focus in this life. Most everything else is a distraction. With all of the “references” you cite we really don’t know much let alone how many Heavenly Mothers we have and that we all derive from the same one. What are Her physical characteristics what does her voice sound like, what is Her role in the Heavens? Is She a member of the Godhead or something else? We really don’t even understand at this point all the implications and details of what God is and the Godhead. Our Mother may play a more intimate role in our lives in the next life but in this life our purpose is to get to know The Father and the Son.

Warren AstonNovember 2, 2021

THANK YOU Meridian Magazine for publishing this excellent reminder of the "other half of Heaven," the Mother of all our spirits, and thank you McArthur for expressing these neglected but infinitely eternal truths so beautifully! My grandchildren have your books introducing our Mother in Heaven at a child's level, but we adults need to keep her in mind every bit as much.

Happy grandmaNovember 2, 2021

Most of us don't live close to our grandchildren, to do such wonderful things. Yes, we have cell phones and texting, but one has to find the time for these events. Not easy when we see them so seldom -- even in the same state. And, their families are so busy, it is hard to find any alone time.

vickieNovember 1, 2021

i didnt read the entire thing but i disagree with conclusions that come to blaming religion for depression. any religion that is. before i ever joined the church i went through my first episode of major depression and anxiety disorder. it was painful and i didnt take medication. i joined the church a few years later. i found that being a member of the church helped me through my depression episodes. i havent had any in a long time. my depression comes from my genetic makeup. my mother had it and i had it and my daughter had it. my mother was a catholic and i know that being a catholic didnt cause her depression. maybe people who suffer from depression are more sensitive and that sensitivity is a good thing because it humbles you to be able to be comforted by the HOly Spirit. My Faith is what sustained me. i thank God every day for being a member of the church.

Laurie PinegarNovember 1, 2021

Great article Diana! Loved this one!

DonnaNovember 1, 2021

Thanks for dispelling this old and inaccurate myth. I only read the article because of the headline. I DID believe Utahns were more depressed, based on that very old and inaccurate info. This is a very encouraging article, and I especially agree with the list of 10 near the end. Thank you!! Very relevant!

Theodore BrandleyNovember 1, 2021

Although there are some reasonable arguments for Christ being married during his mortal ministry I don’t find any of them compelling. What I do find compelling is the following: “The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.” (John 5:19) Jesus was “the only begotten son” of the Father (see John 3:16), so the Father obviously did not have any offspring while He was in mortality. Therefore the Son would not have done so either. Also for the following reasons I do not believe that Jesus was married in mortality: It would have been irresponsible for Him to have done so because He had no home and knew that He would not be around to support His wife nor to raise His children. Jesus was sired by the Father and therefore had the seeds of immortality within him. He gave up His own life, no one took it from Him (John 10:17-18). If Jesus had children in mortality would some of them carry this “immortality gene?” No, that would not happen. On the cross he asked John to take care of His mother but said nothing about a wife or child, who would have been His first responsibility. Jesus obviously was or will be married, but I believe that it was or would be after His resurrection. Perhaps He was sealed to Mary Magdalen during the 40 days He was on the earth subsequent to His resurrection?

James ScottNovember 1, 2021

While I can agree Jesus was married, Jewish custom usually require young men to marry typically arranged by parents. However the idea that there are quarter children of God on the Earth doesn’t make sense. The declaration of generations is covered in Mosiah 15: 10 And now I say unto you, who shall declare his generation? Behold, I say unto you, that when his soul has been made an offering for sin he shall see his seed. And now what say ye? And who shall be his seed? 11 Behold I say unto you, that whosoever has heard the words of the prophets, yea, all the holy prophets who have prophesied concerning the coming of the Lord—I say unto you, that all those who have hearkened unto their words, and believed that the Lord would redeem his people, and have looked forward to that day for a remission of their sins, I say unto you, that these are his seed, or they are the heirs of the kingdom of God. This verse indicates his generation will be AFTER the atoning sacrifice. Having blood children by resurrected individuals is not possible. His children therefore are those believing and worthy followers and covenant keepers and not blood relatives.

Scot ProctorOctober 31, 2021

See the response to the comment above.

Scot ProctorOctober 31, 2021

This is the title from a Non-Latter-day Saint publication.

ChrisOctober 31, 2021

Thank you for sharing this article. We read and hear that His grace is sufficient, but so many of us really don't believe it. But it's true...His grace is sufficient. It's enough, no matter how huge or how small our mistakes and poor choices might be. There is a reason the Savior is referred to as our Healer.. it's because only He can heal our wounds and our brokenness, and He is always willing to do that if only we are willing to allow it.

EneffceeOctober 30, 2021

Amazing! Your question sounds as if I had written it myself. Obviously Dr. Steurer has a stable and working marriage and relationship with his wife and hasn’t experienced the loneliness that develops over years of this type of treatment. I have tried kindness, patience, suggestions and communicating skills for so many years that yes, I finally do feel unloved and unlovable (53 years of marriage) and have given up on having a fulfilling commitment together. My testimony is solid that I am worthwhile in the Savior’s eyes, but it doesn’t preclude the need for human validation and attention from my mate on this side of the veil. At this stage in life I am praying for endurance and long-suffering and a better suited, more compatible partner for the eternities. The Savior’s comfort attends me daily—that’s all I can hope for for now, and am grateful and blessed for that.

Pam BlairOctober 29, 2021

Oh, to have been able to film it all --- alas! Cell phone cameras were still in the future. I laughed - even as I read it for the third time!!! Sugar beets- must have been in my area of Idaho...

Sherelyn CuretonOctober 29, 2021

Thank you both for sharing this great message about this beautiful Temple. I just love listening each week to your Podcasts. They fill my heart with gladness.

Jo Ann OkelberryOctober 29, 2021

Thank you for this article. It was very interesting and informative.

Jo Ann OkelberryOctober 29, 2021

This was so delightful to read. What a family memory!

Maryann TaylorOctober 29, 2021

What a great story--especially for this time of year. My husband I and love walking through cemeteries. As we read the markers, great stories unfold. I think about their experiences, their heartaches, their family ties. Often parents outlived their children. Sometimes it is obvious from the death dates that an epidemic must have raged through the community. Recently we visited a cemetery where many graves were arranged along a circular path. It was a memorial to many men who had lost their lives in fighting a huge fire in that area. Cemeteries are sacred places to us--where people are honored and remembered.

Maryann TaylorOctober 29, 2021

I think you meant "Why are so many of the most influential moms on the internet members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?" Right?

Kary NelsonOctober 29, 2021

Are you serious?!? She asked how to reestablish connection to her self-absorbed husband, and your answer was, "improve your relationship with Jesus Christ and everything will magically fall into place"? What if her self-worth is just fine, what if she already has a strong relationship with Jesus and her Heavenly Parents? Then what? I have read your column for years and generally agree with or learn from your answers, but this one is not helpful at all. It sounds like victim-blaming, and gives NO counsel for connecting with her spouse beyond a vague 'I'm sure you'll figure it out....'

Valerie LuntOctober 29, 2021

I met Jerry in 2009 at the Books for Young Readers Symposium at BYU. Upon hearing of his passing, I got out and hugged my autographed copy of Sam and the Tigers, a wonderful retelling of an old folk tale. He was funny, creative, personable, and definitely nice! So grateful for the opportunity to meet and chat with him.

AdinaOctober 29, 2021

Just a friendly reminder that we are asked to remove "Mormon" from our identity as a church! An interesting article for sure, thank you!!!

Greg RicksOctober 29, 2021

"Clearly, we must work, but what we work for determines if the work is telestial or celestial." This is the best comment in the whole article!

Diane QuistOctober 29, 2021

That’s a funny story. I love how it was written.

SarahOctober 29, 2021

Check out Dr ramani on you tube, she may also help you see if this is the type of relationship you are in and give you some tools.

Celeste TipianiOctober 29, 2021

That was an interesting article you wrote. Thank you for sharing your experiences. Wow, I bet that was incredibly painful when you got stung by that stingray. I had a similar situation with the housing situation and we bid on this house and so hopeful we would get it, but that did not happen. I was so disappointed when our bid was turned down. But we ended up building our home and that turned out to be the best thing we did. This was 28 years ago and I am grateful we did not get that original house that we wanted. Sometimes greater blessings come if we just be patient!

Maryann TaylorOctober 28, 2021

I LOVE the Harry Potter books and there are so MANY good lessons in them--love and loyalty to friends, importance of family relationships, the quest for learning and growing, personal sacrifices to bless others, and on and on. I highly recommend them.

Maryann TaylorOctober 28, 2021

I would be less concerned about stepping on the ex-husband's toes and more concerned about what strong actions to take to protect the children from his possible continued addiction to pornography. It would be a very good idea for the wife to consult a lawyer regarding what legal actions she can take IF the ex is still engaging in this kind of behavior. She might also seek out professional counsel regarding how to engage her children in conversation regarding this subject so that they will be able to open up and tell her what goes on at dad's house.

Helmut Worle (native of Germany; adopted, by naturalization, U.S. citizen)October 28, 2021

I realize this may sound petty, but I must offer a small correction: One can adopt a country for the purpose of citizenship, but one cannot adopt a country to become a native of it. The word native means the place you were born. You can be a native Swede, but if you were not born in Sweden no amount of love or affinity will make you a native of that country. It would violate grammar.

JON COOPEROctober 28, 2021

Ty, Thank you for a tremendous insight into this topic and situation. A key word you used to help understand each of these positions is 'empathy'. This is an incredibly difficult emotion to develop since it requires the individual to do what you suggested: try to understand where the other person is coming from to then better show forth greater love. All this without sacrificing truth. I feel this is obtainable through the influence of the Holy Ghost as we try to love and serve one another. Thank you for a great article.

Melanee PhillipsOctober 28, 2021

I've always loved Jerry Pinkney's beautiful books...his kindness makes it even better.

Carol AnnOctober 28, 2021

Where and what time will you be in Herriman, UT, on Nov. 9th? What exactly will you be addressing?

SharOctober 28, 2021

I agree with Kenny. It's truly an attack the closer you get to Salt Lake. I appreciate the deep dive into the data. I do feel Utah has a preoccupation with body image-which is unfortunate. I never felt it was the teachings of the church about women but rather the increase of problems with pornography. If I remember correctly a few years back Utah declared pornography a health crisis or something like that. Even though the cause of pornography use or addiction isn't due to inadequate appearances of husbands/wives/significant others Satan's war is to try to convince us otherwise. I see the attacks of Satan when I drive the freeway in Salt Lake. I appreciate this post but still have such a heart for those (including myself) who struggle with body image.

CarolOctober 28, 2021

I would love to have the phrase: " Well done, thou good and faithful servant". Matt25:21 used for my funeral.

MeridenOctober 28, 2021

Will Deseret Book be carrying this book?

Michele NoelOctober 28, 2021

This is a well thought out article yet the statement that ‘sexual addiction is rare’ is completely out of line. I have been highly involved with LDS Addiction Recovery for a decade. The resources referenced on that issue defy reality. In the trenches of this work we do a terrible disservice to addicts and those who love them when we minimize the realities of this plague. Bishops and Stake Presidents are being overwhelmed by the volume of need for COMPETENT 12 step groups and professional counselors. See Elder Hollands 2016 address to the Utah Coalition Against Pornography. The ideas regarding developing a shame-free environment in our homes is right on and we would do well to employ them in our wards and stakes. Please a see Dr. Donald L. Hilton Jr. fantastic book He Restoreth My Soul.

CoreyOctober 27, 2021

I appreciate your well written article and your emphasis on being Christ like no matter the situation. I personally received the vaccine but only because the Pfizer was available, I have a brother who has not had it and his company which is also the same company I just retired from has given them until the 1st week of December, so 35 yrs of service may just get thrown out the door for him but he believes the principle is greater to stand up for. I have great concerns about the vaccine for anybody under twelve, there is just not enough long term data. Can you imagine the outcry if schools/universities required testing for venereal disease or AIDS or required HPV vaccinations even though statistically they could show a need. Federal Law prohibits any employer from not only discriminating because of religion but they can't even bring it up but they are able now because of Covid to ask for a document which basically shows your religion ?

CoreyOctober 27, 2021

There are more plastic surgeons per capita along the Wasatch Front than anywhere else in the nation.

James RawsonOctober 27, 2021

I enjoyed your article on repentance! Reminds me of the three years I worked with prisoners at the Utah State prison! At that time I was teaching 20 of them all former LDS who were serving time for murder! We were all involved in the family history research program called name extraction and this group extracted hundreds of thousands of names of our black brothers and sisters! One prisoner with whom I worked was in for life! One night he received a dream from one of his ancestors that his temple work needed to be done. Over a period of time he compiled the names I’ve nearly 45,000 of his ancestors and submitted them for temple work! One day when President Kimball and his counselor who was over all of the prisons housing LDS and former LDS members was visiting with him and he asked the prophet will the Lord ever forgive me and his answer to this good man was you have been and are a Savior on Mount Zion for your ancestors! To me personally, There is no doubt in my mind that the Lord forgives all who truly repent of their sins no matter the gravity!

KaryOctober 27, 2021

I would suggest reading the book, "Jacob, a brief theological introduction", by Deidre Nicole Green (published by the Neal A. Maxwell Institute). In chapter 3 she discusses Jacob and Sherem and has a different take on this topic, which, honestly, I find far more inspirational and in keeping with Jacob's Christlike personality. Highly recommend this book--and all of the books in this series! They are very insightful..

Kenny MazzantiOctober 27, 2021

Drive north or south on I.15 in the Salt Lake City area, and you will see more billboards advertising various forms of body sculpting, surgical enhancements of female body parts, facelifts, and "youthful" regeneration than on the rest of the entirety of I.15 in CA, NV, ID or MT.

MaryOctober 27, 2021

Thank you for this thoughtful and well articulated response to a perpetuation of a stereotype. And let’s continue our individual and collective journey to honor our divine natures in creating love, truth and beauty in all dimensions of our lives as Latter-day Saint women.

SHOctober 27, 2021

I am not from Utah but do have family there. I do always feel bombarded when I enter Utah --the closer to Salt Lake I get the more bombarded I get with billboards promoting plastic surgery. I appreciate the breakdown of data here. But I have always assumed Utah had a bigger problem. My assumption (which is just that: an assumption) has always been not that teachings of women in the church lead to this infatuation with appearance, but the increase in problems with pornography. I do think these two things are related. While a husband/ viewing pornography does not have anything to do with a woman's appearance or "lack" in any way, women can still feel as though that's the case. Satan can lead women astray with the implications that they are not enough.

conOctober 27, 2021

one of the culprits resulting in osteoporosis is refined foods, especially 'healthy' vegetable oils, probably worse than candy. "eat foods as close to the way God made them as possible." Ezra Taft Benson

KathyOctober 27, 2021

I love labeling life's disappointments as 'stings' that often bring forth greater blessings.

Sally SmithOctober 26, 2021

I was thrilled when I heard the announcement if a temple in Ephraim. Being from Manti I was also somewhat surprised. But then I said to myself, "The Lord has great things in store for these two historical towns in the bosom of the great state of Utah

Margaret TOctober 26, 2021

When Bishop Causse talked in our stake conference recently, he said something to the effect: "When we keep our covenants, the Lord will bring to pass His plan for us--not necessarily our plan, but His plan." I couldn't help but think of that when reading your insightful article. Thank you for sharing.

Linda WillisOctober 26, 2021

I have read this article 3 times and appreciated the fact that both Meridian Magazine and LDS Living posted it. I have also listened to Ty's podcast on the same topic. It strikes the balance of truth and love and calls upon all of us to do better and be better. It brings comfort to my soul to know that Doctrine and Love can live together in our minds, hearts, and lives perfectly.

Paul l ChappellOctober 26, 2021

I have always cherished and honored Christopher Columbus. Sad that others don't believe the truth. One fact that is missing, that helped restore the gospel, is he didn't rely on a sexton and the stars, but his compass. Magnetic north back then and increasingly now, isn't aligned with true north. If he had sailed due west, he'd have landed on the eastern seaboard of the US. He ended up sailing in a more south westerly direction, I feel, so that English law could be established here, not the civil or Roman law of the Spaniards. Because of his discovery, more people who used a sexton, from the UK, claimed and settled what became the US and Canada.

Robert D StarlingOctober 26, 2021

Thanks Mariah, for these inspired insights. My wife tripped and did a "face plant" on concrete last year which was quite painful, but the X-rays taken in the ER revealed a dime-sized cancerous tumor in her lungs that surgery removed. It could have easily grown undetected without that "sting". And 25 years ago I lost a great job in Los Angeles, but that loss made me "available" for a much better job in Utah so we could "escape" from LA. Indeed, as the title of a book that my daughter helped write says, "God's gifts to us sometimes come wrapped in sandpaper". And as Garth Brooks' song says, "sometimes I thank God for unanswered prayers".

PattiOctober 26, 2021

Oh yes our loving God,after descending below All things stands with us,in our trials and our pain to give us His grace to be healed,lifted and to be above where we were! Oh Praise and Gratitude to our all powerful, yet gracious, Savior and King!

Linda WOctober 26, 2021

Very insightful! Thank you for sharing your experiences so that others can learn.

Mauga TuiotiOctober 26, 2021

Thank you, I love reading articles from your site, always appreciate what I learn from your megazine

JustinOctober 26, 2021

The FDA knew of a large number of adverse side effects of the vaccine BEFORE approval as shown in a presentation given Oct 22, 2020. Look on youtube for a presentation called "Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee - 10/22/2020" Go to 2:33:40 (2 hours 33 minutes and 35 seconds.... the slide will go by in less than a half a second at the 40 second mark). There are 22 separate bulleted items.

Kat ColtonOctober 25, 2021

Thank you so much for your meaningful and helpful analysis. I think you are really on to a critical thought here that helps me to step out of much of the confusion around this topic swirling in my head and see how I can do better to balance this tension between love and law.

C ShielddOctober 25, 2021

As an incesr survivor, myself, I understand her initial disdain and feelings of betrayal. It took thousands of dollars and hours of various forms of therapy, but after 10 years, I was blessed with the miracle of forgiveness. The vitriol I harbored for my perpetrator wasn't doing anything to him, but was literakly destroying me. Once that burden was lifted, I got my Self back and felt so much freer and lighter! Forgiveness is a the ultimate gift for the forgiver....

Kerry FarrOctober 25, 2021

Thank you so much Ty. This is the best article I have ever read on this subject. I feel I have a much better understanding of what is going on and how to react to it.

Rhoda AndersonOctober 25, 2021

Excellent points to ponder-- thank you for these words!

Dave HansenOctober 25, 2021

I've always been curious why Christians believe baptism for the dead is a heretical principle. They have come up with dozens of reasons that it is not of God in order to protect their beliefs. I wonder if they think those early people who Paul said practiced it were Christians, or heathens???

MaureenOctober 25, 2021

Interesting article. My brother swears by pickle juice for nighttime leg cramping. The role of vitamin K, however, is not to prevent blood clotting but to promote it. Big diff.

MargieOctober 25, 2021

Seek a sealing cancellation as soon as your divorce is final. If you are turned down, insist on meeting personally with higher priesthood leaders. If necessary, seek a meeting with the president of the church. Too often, men in this situation try to spin the story to their children, keeping false hopes alive. Too often they use the continued existence of the sealing to try to exercise unrighteous dominion in the lives of their ex-wives. Insist on actual freedom from all ties to him. Do not feel you need to be civil to your former friend. She is a scumbag and you owe her nothing. And she can be told that. I found the longer I exercised restraint, the more my ex-husband's new wife felt she had done nothing wrong. Sometimes sin needs to be labeled and called out.

Stephen AllredOctober 24, 2021

Excellent, authoritative, highly educational article. Thank you for sharing.

Corey dinsdaleOctober 24, 2021

That's almost a Patrick McManus story. Loved it. I grew up in a small town and can relate to this story. In fact the farmer who we borrowed his tractor more than once and long since passed away was President Nelson's first wife Danzel's brother.

Mary J BellOctober 24, 2021

Thanks so much Pattie. Isn't it wonderful to know this?! We are truly never alone.

DJOctober 23, 2021

Thanks for your thoughtful analysis on current research of both COVID vaccine and some general history of medical treatments and protocols of the past. I remain cautiously optimistic and received both doses of COVID vaccine, but understand others hesitancy for themselves and/or for their children.

A. BinghamOctober 23, 2021

I would extend this excellent, very well thought out and rational argument to ALL healthy individuals considering the jab or who are considering boosters. Not just small children.

Darla MillerOctober 23, 2021

Wow--what an amazing story. My testimony & love for the Lord has increased. Thank you.

Fishing PharmacistOctober 23, 2021

As a retired pharmacist, the points the author makes about Prozac and other drugs are accurate. We are still receiving updated information about whether or not to use aspirin, which has been with us longer than anyone now alive. However and though I am no vaccine expert either, polio vaccine came out when I was in elementary school, and I am grateful my parents and the school made sure I was vaccinated. I have a friend who still suffers from childhood polio as have multitudes of other children who were infected during my childhood years. My inclination is to advise that my grandchildren receive the Covid-19 vaccine when it is approved. In this case, I have greater faith in the scientists and epidemiologists than the anti-vaccers.

Robin R. FosterOctober 22, 2021

I was drawn to this article. I can testify that our Father wants more from us. His Son as paved the way. I know that prayer is important. It has been brought to me many blessings, but from reading your article, prayer if done right opens us up to all our Father has for us.

DougieOctober 22, 2021

She was hurt and did well to forgive. But her daughter? The one who was actually abused? No mention of her. Let’s hear the “rest of the story”.

AwakeOctober 22, 2021

In the 80's there was plenty of youth and adults coming out and they were not committing suicide in or out of the church or any other community to the degree it's happening now. Why? This has far more to do with social media and the disconnect it has caused everyone in familial and community relationships. There is an anger out there, between progressives and conservatives, that can not be squelched as each side blames the other for the massive problems in society and our youth today. Both sides of the issue have valid arguments. There is so much more going on, that can not be seen or discerned, than anything to do with the LGBQ community or LDS community or any other community. This is a spiritual war like no other we've encountered in our lifetimes and the battle is for souls and it's real.

Love your neighborOctober 22, 2021

The thing that frustrated many about those who refuse to be vaccinated is that they also refuse to wear a mask or do anything that would protect others and prevent the spread. I would have no problem if those who are not vaccinated were doing their part to limit the spread but generally they are not. I caught Covid in February before I was eligible to be vaccinated. I was being extremely careful but the person I caught it from was being less careful and those around him were not careful at all. We had the chance to choose to help each other and beat this but instead we had division and personal rights above personal responsibility or love of neighbor. When the public chooses to not be responsible it is the job of public health to protect the vulnerable. We had our chance to beat it together, but by our own selfish choices now we get mandates.

CarmaOctober 22, 2021

So was Dorothy sealed to her former partner or was he sealed to someone else? If she wasn’t sealed to him, did she remarry?

Penelope JohnsonOctober 21, 2021

When we covered that story of the prophesied meeting and laying of the cornerstone last week in Institute we were taken back in memory and spirit to that time when you recounted the story on our family history trip and once more were moved by those circumstances. Thank you. Penelope and Kent Johnson

Robert S. PrinceOctober 21, 2021

I was greatly blessed to serve I’m the Central German Mission (Düsseldorf) under President Walter H. Kindt in 1979-72. He was, and remains, a tremendous influence in my life. Those of us who served under President Kindt grew to love and deeply respect President and Sister Kindt. We also forged a wonderful brotherhood that continues to this day. Thanks for publishing this short account of some of the many faith-building events of President Kindt’s life. Much, much more could be written. Walter Kindt truly was a remarkable, inspired servant of the Lord and a valiant leader who gave his entire life to build the Kingdom of God on the earth.

LexaGraemeOctober 21, 2021

Um, yeah. That'll wake you up!

LetThereBeLoveOctober 20, 2021

Thank You! Especially your last paragraph. . . THANK YOU!

John R CarpenterOctober 20, 2021

Fascinating and intriguing leading to suggestion of the possibility.

AnonymousOctober 20, 2021

I appreciate your points while believing you are missing much in the education of those who are refusing the vaccine. I have not nor will ever get it. There is MUCH that is sinister about this politically derived issue as well as the medical powers that be.

Susan RowlandOctober 19, 2021

Really liked the statement, “ he had firmly placed his feet on the pathway of discovery , connection, and preservation.

KathleenOctober 18, 2021

You always deliver truth through entertaining stories!

Danna MabeyOctober 17, 2021

Loved reading about this faithful missionary on this quiet Sunday evening.

M. JayOctober 17, 2021

I grew up when Christopher Columbus was still honored and revered. My questions are: How and why has the revisionist version been allowed to flourish unchallenged all these years, with hardly a noticeable rebuttal? Where did all the real historians go? And how did revisionism take over in the schools? It's still happening!

David BellOctober 17, 2021

Wonderful story. What a courageous faithful man!

Julie ScottOctober 15, 2021

How blessed I was, as a youth, to listen to Br. Kindt many, many times. What a powerful testimony! I remember hanging on to every word and wishing he would speak even longer. What a kind, humble servant of the Lord. The Lord truly used him as an instrument to bless countless lives!

Tom WoodOctober 15, 2021

Another great lesson, Breck. I enjoyed that you pointed out that our sacrifices and positive efforts are counted to our good even if we ultimately don't achieve a final success in what we are engaged. You also make a clear and convincing case for paying our tithes. Thanks for another uplifting and insightful lesson.

MarkOctober 15, 2021

I've found that when I don't fight my unwanted thoughts but don't feed them either, I quickly overcome them. When intrusive thoughts come you can mentally look at them without indulging them. I've found that when I do that they just go away after a few seconds. Maybe your over-concern and self-condemnation about this are what keeps you locked in on these thoughts you really don't want to have.

Shirley BradfordOctober 15, 2021

Thank you for this article telling of what they do with money donated to the humanitarian aid. I give each month to it, along with my tithing, but never hear of where it goes or what good it does..

Lynette SmithOctober 15, 2021

Thank you so much for this beautiful story of the life of my mission president. I served in the Central German Mission (Dusseldorf) mission from 1970 - 1972. Elder Rudolf Poecker, who is also mentioned became the mission president after Pres. Kindt was released.

Connie SchraderOctober 15, 2021

Thank you for writing about this truly amazing man. It is inspiring and so uplifting to read about his courage and faith.

JeanOctober 15, 2021

Thank you for sharing Walter Kindt's story. It was amazing and faith stirring. My testimony is increased just reading about the times that the Lord came and helped him.

Truth will shineOctober 15, 2021

Great article. I would add that not all gloominess is because we don’t have the spirit. “ Remember that gloominess does not come from God; it is evidence that we are not hearing His voice.” It’s actually a very sad thing to teach people. Depressed people feel gloomy sometimes and it’s not because they are not “hearing his voice”. Please study into depression and be more educated about it.

RobynOctober 15, 2021

Kevin Thanks for your cleverness in a world that is becoming so dour.

Jim ScottOctober 15, 2021

Not many of us understand the kind of fear Brother Kindt has experienced. Thank you for sharing your testimony and the faith in the Lord. God bless you.

Nancy JolleyOctober 15, 2021

This would make a great movie! What a wonderful man!!

Jan HathawayOctober 14, 2021

CTR also means Current Temple Recommend❣

John WaitingOctober 14, 2021

A wonderful, heart warming article Thank you for letting us know about the Saints in Russia. Hope all is well with the Stoddard families

Jo Ann OkelberryOctober 14, 2021

This is such a positive and uplifting article.

Daphne KessingerOctober 14, 2021

This was such an outstanding & warm telling of Russian Stake president, Boris Leostrin's pathway to the gospel, spiritual experiences & church service & leadership...making Russia not so foreign to me anymore. Thank you, dear cousin,, Mark

Dick K NantoOctober 13, 2021

Is cooking the same for steel cut oats?

Drexel GuzyOctober 13, 2021

Thank you for this outstanding article. I've done research on this myself, and reached the same conclusions, but your summary is much better than mine. I'm grateful this is in a format I can share with others and help them know the real Columbus, too.

CASOctober 13, 2021

Carolyn, This is very timely and wise counsel. The question is as always: Who will heed it?

Shelley T MerrillOctober 13, 2021

Such a timely article! Thank you so very much!

LewisOctober 12, 2021

What a beautiful way to bring conference to life. I am always so touched by your insights and perspective. I feel grateful for every article!

Debbi M.October 12, 2021

This article brought me to tears. It moved me to ponder on my daughter, Amber's, death nearly one year ago, from metastatic breast cancer. I had spent that last morning with her at the hospital arranging hospice care because she wanted to go home so badly. Covid at that time limited visitors to one at a time, and our family/friends had a schedule, by the hour, as to who would go and keep her company. She had decided the night before that she could no longer tolerate any more chemotherapy, it no longer worked, and she was in much pain. She asked me how long I thought it would take for her to go, and I had no answer, but told her it should be soon. I didn't tell her I was watching all the signs of imminent death--the feverish head but cold extremities, yet she was still conscious, which amazed me. She fought to the very end. I had to leave--I knew her sister was waiting in the RER for me to leave so she could come up and I had been there a few hours. Within 10 minutes of me getting home, her sister called and said the nurses were frantically rushing around Amber. Amber took one last breath, and was gone. At least her baby sister was with her. The part of this article that resonated with me was the word, sanctification. I truly felt my time with Amber that morning was sanctified. I could do nothing for her but to love her and be with her, and it was holy, as it was when all of us were in her room after her passing--her parents, her four siblings, her two children and her fiancé. We were allowed in, despite the Covid scare, and it was a time that I will always remember.

Lisa RhodesOctober 12, 2021

How truly and simply expressed and illustrated, Becky. We learn lessons in different ways, in different places, through different relationships but the message of love and forgiveness and redemption are the common thread. Thank you for this sweet lesson!

Sherri WilcoxOctober 12, 2021

Thank you so much for sharing your experience. So touching!

Debbie MoldenhauerOctober 12, 2021

Your tender experience of going the extra mile even in the dark while not safe has touched my heart. Sacrifice has so much power and must be taught as a true sanctifier, Thank you for sharing this divine example of pure love given so willingly! When we can strive to live this law willingly and longingly we will all change and become HIS! Your example is inspiring and is a powerful reminder of small and simple things we can do daily that will perpetuate great things coming to pass!

Kay RookhuyzenOctober 12, 2021

Your story made me cry with joy at your simple offering of love and how it affected those who received it. Really made me thinkg. Thank you!!

Ron HansenOctober 12, 2021

An essential truth, without which we will not progress. "Mother Teresa had expressed an eternal truth. It truly didn’t matter how much we did. It was the love that was the healing power!" And what a touching story to illustrate that. Thank you for sharing your insight and love of what can be done in any and every part of the world.

Ted D.October 12, 2021

A wonderful example of living the second great commandment. Forgive me if I paraphrase the wrong author, but I think it was Sis. Eubanks that said serving others is the very DNA of what it means to be a member of Christ’s church.

JaLeen ColeOctober 12, 2021

So so beautiful. Thanks for your example to this beautiful experience. I am so touched by the story and what you have shared.

DJOctober 11, 2021

Thanks for sharing this account of a faithful leader and his wife. It's given me a clearer insight into their trials and faith.

E. RobinsonOctober 11, 2021

yes, I would also like a copy of the book

Marlene Hinton, PhDOctober 10, 2021

Excellent scholarship in a profoundly confused world. Many of Columbus' truly remarkable diaries/letters are available on the internet as are his son's journals. As a history teacher I share portions of Columbus' own writings in hopes that students will learn truth. I appreciate this refreshingly accurate view of a great and noble soul. Thank you.

Allison TullisOctober 10, 2021

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I’m a history major and wrote my final paper on Columbus so I have studied him at great length and I found the same things you did. It makes me sick how revisionist historians have tainted his image. His day has also been renamed to be more politically correct, which is wrong. I hope more people read this and see the true man.

RonOctober 10, 2021

Thank you for your research and offering your findings to help unveil truth and light!

Chuck McClureOctober 10, 2021

I have always honored Christopher Columbus as a great and God honoring man. Over the years I have witnessed the changes being made to denigrate, using presentism, the heroes of my youth. Thank you for this wonderful article and for adding such details that I had not previously heard. This is an amazing presentation!

Beth PowellOctober 9, 2021

I was bewildered by quotes from sources used by revisionist historians and the vehemence of arguments offered by some loved ones vilifying Christopher Columbus. I am grateful that Brother Callister did the research and provided actual history and correct view of Columbus as a deeply inspired disciple of Jesus Christ. I am also grateful for the Book of Mormon reference and the quote from President Hinckley. It is so sad that many in the rising generation believe what is increasingly taught in universities and colleges and even in the elementary grades, revisionist history and falsehoods contained in it.

BeraOctober 9, 2021

The Lord really does choose men and women to further His work in spite of their weaknesses. I thoroughly enjoyed this article and am inspired. Thank you.

Mary JaneOctober 9, 2021

Wonderful article! so glad to read many of the testimonies and facts about Columbus and his true character. I grow weary at times with presentism and revisionists in our society...people in general don't take the time to study and research the truth.

Howard & Rosalie Madsen PiersonOctober 9, 2021

Thank you, Bro. Callister, for this timely article on the Real Christopher Columbus! (Columbus Day Oct 12) We appreciate your research into the real events and inspiration of his travels.

John R CarpenterOctober 9, 2021

A nicely done and well cited article!

MaryOctober 9, 2021

Are primary sources from the natives available? Would be interesting know their perspective

Sonya WashburnOctober 8, 2021

Thank you for teaching us the truth about Columbus...what a great man. We need to defend him and teach our children the truth. Instead of allowing character assassination to thrive.

Gary AndersonOctober 8, 2021

Thank you for this wonderful article! I appreciate knowing the truth about the character of Christopher Columbus.

Jo Ann OkelberryOctober 8, 2021

Thank you so much for this article. It is so informative and interesting. Always follow the sources.

JanOctober 8, 2021

I have read some of the history that revisionist have written and so appreciate this article that disclaims their writings of Christopher Columbus. Thank you for this insightful and true article. I can see why some would try to rewrite history of Christopher Columbus . Perhaps the validation of their narrative views gives them more public exposure to discount those who try to follow what God would have them do. May we all have courage to stand up and recognizeTruth.


No body ever mentions Joseph's dog! an English Bull Mastiff that was there with him. When he slept the dog remained awake and visa versa. Old Major a white English Bull Mastiff was given to him in Zions camp. A professor has written an essay about evidently. God bless Joseph and Old Major.

Michael FryeOctober 8, 2021

In 1977 Peter Marshall and David Manuel published an inspiring work, "The Light and the Glory," with the first two chapters devoted to Columbus. Since that time I have always retained the blessed memory of Christopher Columbus and am grateful for another confirming voice of this great man.

John R CarpenterOctober 8, 2021

Those who view the past with only "modern" perceptions of thier culture and ethnicity are naive. Those revisionaist historians who for profit or political reasons do the same thing a true racist and bigotted people. We must see and understand the past from their eyes and their artififacts. Only then can we see the truth and learn the lessons of the past. This to prevent making the same mistakes they made unintenionally or not.

Theodore BrandleyOctober 8, 2021

To the revisionist, the object of converting the natives to Christianity would be as bad or worse than enslaving them.

Dave MOctober 8, 2021

Thanks for this thoughtful and much needed article. One can only wonder how different the world would be if, after finishing his work in the Americas, Columbus had been able to turn his attention to the Middle East and Asia.

Rochelle HaleOctober 8, 2021

Thank you. I hope many people on "both" sides of opinion will read your timely, and well-researched article. In our world of presentism, we must be careful about applying today's standards to change what did or didn't happen long ago.

ShaunaOctober 8, 2021

Wonderful--thank you

Rob RackerOctober 8, 2021

I Anyone reading this article would enjoy a book written about Christopher Columbus entitled “Man Among the Gentiles”, by Clark Hinckley. While Clark and his wife Kathy were serving as Mission President in Spain several years ago, they became very interested to do extensive research and learned how CC was an instrument in God’s hands in being inspired to go against prevailing superstition and fear in sailing west to find the orient. CC was a spiritual and visionary man and not a conqueror or aggressive administrator, as he is currently portrayed by politically correct and revisionist historians as Bro. Callister has pointed out. I’ve read Clark’s book twice and it is an easy, inspiring read, by a well educated man who, while not a historian (which is a good thing, given the leftist bias and prejudice prevalent in that field of the humanities) and would appeal to most Latter Day Saints, who accept the divinity of the Book of Mormon’s origin and message. Obviously I highly recommend it.

Gale E PhillipsOctober 8, 2021

I very much enjoyed this excellent article. As a high school US history teacher, I found that almost without exception, students came to me believing the revisionist view of Columbus. They had acquired it both in elementary and secondary school from teachers who had also learned it in school and college. Columbus, is sadly, just one of many historical figures who have been maligned by history.

HalOctober 8, 2021

Thank you so much for this insightful article. In years past, my children had school teachers (one in particular) who consistently and persistently maligned Christopher Columbus (as well as our nation's founding fathers). I complained to this teacher and the principal that the things the teacher was presenting to the students was unfair and decidedly biased against Columbus. I had enough historical ammunition to support my arguments, but I wish I had the details of this article at the time. I am grateful for anyone with the courage to stand up for these good people who did so much for the founding of our nation.

Nate wixomOctober 8, 2021

Thank you for your research which appears honest, balanced and accurately depicts an imperfect yet honorable Columbus. #AbolishCancelCulture

Fawnette BaldwinOctober 8, 2021

This article is wonderful. I learned so much more about Columbus than I ever knew before. He was a great and good man. Thank you for making this story possible.

JAN NIELSENOctober 6, 2021

Thanks you for your thoughtful article. It helped me understand the conflict that seems to be happening at BYU. Grateful for Elder Holland and his love for all and for his concern for BYU's future.

Jo Ann OkelberryOctober 6, 2021

This is a very thoughtful and well written article. I listened to Elder Holland's talk, and I agree with him. I know that he spent hours praying about what he was to say, and I know that the Lord backs him. There are those who are attracted to children. Are those people also waiting for a revelation saying that it is in God's Plan of Salvation for their attraction to children be inclusive and all right? We all have challenges in our lives. We are here to overcome them.

BrookeOctober 6, 2021

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I read the transcript of the Faith Matters podcast after seeing much positive buzz surrounding that particular discussion, but I have been unable to adequately articulate my thoughts about it. You have done it here for me, and I am grateful for your gift. Thank you again.

PennieOctober 6, 2021

Thank you for a well thought out article on this subject and the Faith Matters Podcast. I was disturbed when I first listened to it, and my discomfort has not lessened. Korihor comes to mind. These people are teaching false doctrine just as surely as he did.

Caroline againOctober 6, 2021

I made a comment on Faith Matters after this podcast saying that I thought it was a wee bit too much trying to please God without offending the devil.

CarolineOctober 6, 2021

I appreciate this article and am going to read it more carefully. I'm preparing to teach Relief Society this week--the topic is Elder Gong's April Conference talk-- "Room in the Inn" which addresses "making a place of grace and space" and "we come to the Inn (the Church) as we are". It occurred to me that, while the Church is indeed welcoming and invites ALL to come unto Christ, we have a responsibility, as "guests" to behave ourselves in Someone else's Home--to respect our Host (I'm capitalizing these words deliberately) and the "rules of the house", and to not be a picky eater when the Host has prepared His very best for us.

Candy Lee HuntOctober 6, 2021

So well said. Thank you for the time you took to delineate in words the troubling feelings I also felt when I listened to this podcast.

Alan WildOctober 6, 2021

This interview is what caused me to stop listening to Faith Matters podcasts. Elder Holland was very gentle in quietly correcting certain matters at BYU. Of course the LGBTQ group is having a huge negative reaction. To me part of what I heard in that podcast is that LGBTQ is a reasonable alternative lifestyle, rather than being wrong. That will never be true. Kindly allowing for those unfortunate leanings in one thing-accepting that behavior as acceptable is quite another. So no, Elder Holland was not in error in anything he said.

Barry MooreOctober 5, 2021

Had a similar impact on me when I first read it years ago. Piece of trivia for you-- the book played a supporting role in the 2017 movie "The Case for Christ."

JuliannOctober 5, 2021

That is incredible!

LexaGraemeOctober 5, 2021

This May just be my favorite story of yours, out of years of favorite stories. As someone whose life has been directly touched by war, this touches me, too. Thank you.

LexaGraemeOctober 5, 2021

“ she gradually drove through, out of Egypt, to the promised land of open highway”—what great imagery. And the rest of it, as well. In his mouth?! Oh no!

LexaGraemeOctober 5, 2021

Marvelous! I am sharing this one with my students. Thank you for your wonderful stories.

LexaGraemeOctober 5, 2021

Dr Peterson, thank you. I found this very interesting. You have inspired me to look up Habermas’ writings. I will bookmark this for a time when I will teach about the Resurrection, as well.

BlakeOctober 5, 2021

Thank you for writing this article. It was very well done. I actually had grappled with getting the Vaccine all along and had made the decision not to. There was a distinct moment during conference when I felt the Spirit say to me, it's time to do it. It was a sure witness to me. So I made the appointment and got it on Monday afternoon. Then I saw this article a few hours later, and it reassured me that I wasn't pressured or wishy washy by doing it. I followed a sure prompting to do it even though I had previously decided otherwise. I appreciate seeking and receiving inspiration for ones self, and an article encouraging that.

JoJean LoflinOctober 4, 2021

I’m fearful that “reconstruction” of the Provo Temple wii mean that they plan to ogdenify it. That would be heartbreaking. The Provo Temple is wonderfully unique.

JoeyOctober 4, 2021

The announcement of new temples is always a thrill for Latter Day Saints everywhere. I hope I live long enough to hear the prophet announce a temple in Dublin, Ireland. We are working so hard to prepare Irish names. I would love to know the work could be done in an Irish temple.

Linda WillisOctober 4, 2021

Maurine, Thank you for so quickly linking the various bold and not so subtle messages of the Brethren pleading with us to stay the course and even up our game! You and Scot are such fine examples of teaching pure doctrine and helping others on the path.

Ann StruthersOctober 4, 2021

Oh my goodness, I got goosebumps!! What a beautiful song and voice.

Mark J. StoddardOctober 4, 2021

A very flowing and interesting summation of General Conference. Highlights are tough to do but you did it! Read it several times. So much to absorb.

Mary-Rose McMullinOctober 4, 2021

If love to use these, but these links aren't live.

CarolOctober 4, 2021

True in sports and in life!

CarolOctober 4, 2021

Thank you for posting these, they are such a great way to share the gospel messages of Conference in beautiful way.

Sydney WheadonOctober 4, 2021

Beautiful in message and music! Thank you for this!

leeOctober 2, 2021

Works are fruits of your faith. You are saved ONLY by faith through grace alone.

RhianOctober 2, 2021

Those were, indeed, memorable, meaningful stories. Thanks for your sharing!

RustyOctober 1, 2021

I read this somewhere but know it is true. There is only one Truth - all the rest is perception

WaltSeptember 30, 2021

I have not had covid. I've not taken any of the vaccines, and am not planning to get vaccinated. I realize Heavenly Father is in charge. Recently, it's reported on the Medicare website that about 50,000 of those on Medicare have died within 14 days after being vaccinated. The natural death rate of covid is about 1/2 of 1%, very small. While I'm not ready to leave this world, I'm not in charge--God is. So I'll obviously go when He wants me to. I don't want to be pushed by the drug pushers.

Bob TaylorSeptember 30, 2021

nice article. there are other groups working to identify Lost Tribe peoples - here's one

David TryonSeptember 30, 2021

If God tells you NO once you should not keep asking and demanding a yes. Brother Joseph learned that lesson the hard way and shared it in the D&C. And you should respect the feelings and personal revelations of others.

Debra MSeptember 30, 2021

A very thoughtful article- but I did have one point that stuck me--the part about two people sitting in the temple and both being worthy. Since I have been vaccinated as a protection to myself and others, I am not sure I would be comfortable sitting to someone I knew to be unvaccinated. Maybe with masks and social distancing? I have been back to the temple and we wore masks, but still sat next to each other. I knew (it was a family group) that we were vaccinated. I do feel like folks have the right to decide about the vaccination, but still worry that they could be infecting me. Delta has shown itself to be pretty infectious and there are breakthroughs even amongst the vaccinated. I guess I think we as a church body have been too quick to drop mask-wearing and social distancing inside our facilities. It has been a wearying experience for us all. So my husband and I still stay away from most indoor activities that cannot be social distanced, and pray for the day this will pass.

JaredSeptember 30, 2021

As one who readily followed President Nelson's urging to get the vaccine--I got it just as soon as I could (despite being afraid of needles)--I gained some helpful perspective from reading this article. However, the vaccine-hesitant seem to be focused almost entirely on potential side effects of the vaccine on themselves; "My body, my choice" is the mantra. What about the rest of society? Might the prophet's urging have as much to do with quelling the pandemic for everyone as with preventing harm to the individuals who heed his counsel? If enough people had accepted the vaccine early on, the virus may not have been able to mutate and spread so widely. Unfortunately, we're too late for that, and society is paying the price. Healthcare workers are inhumanely overworked due to the unvaccinated. I have a cousin who is a respiratory therapist at a regional hospital. His career has largely been in the NICU, but the pandemic has forced him into the adult ICU. There were only two days during August that he didn't go to work; he's been working 60-96 hours per week for months, and almost all of his patients are unvaccinated. The hospital has postponed needed surgeries because they have no more room for patients. Again, getting vaccinated may be a personal choice, but we don't have the luxury to pretend that the implications of that choice are only personal.

Michelle SchooleySeptember 30, 2021

I think this is a great article. I think it's important to remember that Abraham's test was to put his will on the alter and he was stopped before actually doing the sacrifice. You would have to continually be listening to the Spirit up to the moment of injection to be sure to move forward or know if you should stop.

Debbie HSeptember 30, 2021

Very helpful article. I took president Nelson’s first counsel to seek the counsel of your medical professional for vaccine info. I have done that and I am confident in that. I did what he asked me to do even though I had already had covid. My medical council was different than my husbands and we are ok with that for now. The test of faith has been gut wrenching! And that is ok too.

Maryann TaylorSeptember 30, 2021

I hear ya, Joni! Family support and love cannot be overemphasized. However, I have a HUGE extended family. It is good to show love as much as we can, but I give myself a giant brownie button for just keeping up with my children and grandchildren's birthdays, etc! I also love writing and receiving letters from my grandchildren and encouraging them. We need to be realistic about what we can do in our super-large extended families, or we may end up neglecting those closest to us and burning out by attempting the impossible.

William R ToftSeptember 30, 2021

My wife and I had concerns about the vaccine before the First Presidency's counsel "urging" vaccination. This counsel only heightened our concerns as we re-evaluated what we knew about the vaccine, our own health situations (both of us are over 70), and previous prophetic counsel that personal revelation will be critical to navigating the last day. After much study, pondering, discussion with each other and close friends in the church we did NOT get a change in our feelings. We still felt getting the vaccine was wrong for us. During Labor Day week we both came down with COVID. We had fevers, aches, extreme fatigue, brain fog, long bouts of sleep, sleep and more sleep. After about 5 days the fevers and aches abated. Today marks 3 weeks since I first had COVID symptoms (my wife was 2 days behind me). The only lingering effects are tiredness after very little effort doing household chores or running errands. Others tell us that for them some symptoms lasted months before they were back to full strength. We feel vindicated that we made the right choice for us. We have another relative over 30 yrs younger than us who was unvaccinated, came down with COVID, and has been in and out of the hospital ICU for over 2 weeks.... survival still not assured. It goes to show that everyone needs personal revelation as to the course to take regarding COVID and the vaccines. We now have natural immunity, and from the sources I've been reading this immunity should endure the remainder of our lives... including for any COVID variants that are spawned in the future. In answering those who challenge my faithfulness to prophetic counsel I say that President Nelson, himself a doctor, would never write a one-size-fits-all prescription for every member of the church. Just like the scriptures we don't just blindly use one scripture and draw a firm conclusion. In our case we took President Nelson's "urging" to get vaccinated and combined it with his urging to increase our capacity for personal revelation. Together we came to the conclusion we did, for us only, and allow others to follow the same process to reach their own decisions on how to act in this matter.

BobSeptember 30, 2021

COVID-19 vaccination is not an Abrahamic test. The Lord has offered us the Holy Ghost so that we can confirm the truth of all things. I sustain the brethren. I continue to serve faithfully in leadership callings. I have not decided to get the vaccine. It is not something I wrestle mightily with. The Lord has corrected me before when I've been sure of the answer and was trying to follow church guidance, so I know he can tell me if what I'm doing is right or wrong. As well written as this article is, it is very one-sided (mostly focusing on people who decided to get the vaccine and downplaying those who still have not).

A McCuneSeptember 30, 2021

Thank you so much for this beautiful, thoughtful, and love-filled article. A message we all need, no matter where we stand on this issue.

Steven Meredith GarmonSeptember 30, 2021

The line about boys love baseball and girls love horses and Lucas loved airplanes more than if my friend Flicka won the world series: That was quite a memorable line for me -- I don't know why. Yeah, it's kinda dated, and sexist and untrue, but I still love that line and miss it from the abridgement

stevie mckennaSeptember 30, 2021

Excellent article. In many cases following the prophet is an Abrahamic test. I don't think that President Nelson would make such an announcement without the counsel of others. I'm sure when all the information was evaluated his impression was to make this strong urge to all church members to get vaccinated. The cheap jab about Biden forcing people to get vaccinated was very inappropriate for part of a response. President Biden wants to get a handle on this illness just as everyone else does and isn't forcing anyone. The virus is not a political issue, it is a medical one. People should understand that.

Rochelle HaleSeptember 30, 2021

Many years ago during my interview with a member of our stake presidency, we came to the final question, and I answered, "I think so," or some more humble answer than a definite "YES!!!!," The counselor asked me again, and I repeated my answer. Then he instructed that this was a yes or no answer, and I answered, "yes." This same topic came up in our Stake Conference just last weekend. If we have answered all of the other questions appropriately, then we are worthy. There is no shame or lack of humility in responding yes and affirming that we are living up to our covenants and are intent on doing all that the Lord asks of us.

Coral C. WeaverSeptember 30, 2021

Thank you! I think you covered it well and hope that we will treat each person’s decision with love and respect.

Mark HopkinsSeptember 30, 2021

I suffered an experience with GBS years ago as a result of a flu shot. It’s a rare reaction that can result from flu vaccinations and viruses. I won’t go into details, but it’s worth a look on google. I used to get vaccinated every year for the flu until my adverse reaction so, I’ve also struggled with the decision whether to get the COVID shot. I’ve gotten the opinion of 4 different doctors. 1 advised me not to get it and 2 advised me to get it. The forth doctor told me to get an antibody test first to see if I’ve had it before I risked the shot. I did and I do have antibodies. I’m not sure when I had COVID I’m in my late 60’s, but needless to say, I’m not going to get the shot now. I’ve struggled with this debate since the shot was made available and when President Nelson urged all members to get it. I studied it out extensively and was about to take my decision to God for conformation, but was given a gift of relief when the forth doctor gave me the guidance to take a more informed approach. My own understanding about the urging the Prophet gave makes sense to me. It’s time to get back into the business of living and enjoying the fellowship of family, the Saints, and friends. Put in your due diligence. Be patient and understanding of all who are struggling with this decision.

BobSeptember 30, 2021

I pray. I study. I serve. My desire is to serve my heavenly father and my fellows. I sustain the brethren. I do not consider vaccination an Abrahamic Test. I don't feel fiercely about it. I believe I'll be OK either way. I haven't gotten vaccinated. I haven't agonized over it. I understand that Pres. Nelson has urged church members to get the vaccine. If and when I feel the time is right, I'll get vaccinated. When I face my final judge, I don't expect him to ask me about vaccination, even if I meet him sooner rather than later because of (or lack of) the vaccine. Unless translated, all men and women die. I'm at peace for now. The Lord can tell me otherwise. He's guided me before and I trust he will do so again. I'm surprised that this is being turned into a test of obedience. I don't think President Nelson or the other brethren intend that. Maybe I'll hear differently at this general conference. I WANT the spirit to guide me, but I don't think this is the issue that will determine my salvation or exaltation. It is not a litmus test for me.

Kathleen N JonesSeptember 30, 2021

While spending 3 years in an Inuit village many years ago, I was taught by one of them that through out their history (oral) from the older Elders, that they came in boats from the south to their land. They also said that the belief of a land bridge between Russia and Alaska was not true. This was told to me in the knowledge that I respected their people and would hold this knowledge scared. I was told this while a person of Inuit decent was saying people say they came from China across a bridge, and I simply said "No." To which the person stopped and asked me what I thought. I replied," Your people came from way south, in boats." In shock she asked "How do you Know that? Only we know." I told her from the Book of Mormon, and related how it told of those who left in boats to the north not to be heard of again." From then on, I had many others who came to me to tell me more about them. For me I hold these dear to my heart and thank the Lord for what they shared with me. I have also lived with the Blackfeet and Navaho and have learned much from all of them.

Christine FosterSeptember 30, 2021

We have a split family relating to the vaccination. We've talked openly about it but not harangued each other. Many of us have had covid and we cant see that the vaccination has made much difference except in the length of time spent being sick. I loved the story because it presented all views with thoughtfulness. I am surprised that it isnt good enough for the media and social warriors that people have been sick with covid. They have no trust in our antibodies and seem to want to force us to do their will. Hmm, wasn't that the plan of another being?

shaunaSeptember 30, 2021

Thank you for this sweet story. I too have had experiences where I couldn't deny the Lord's hand in my life. It's good to remember and reflect on those experiences. It strengthens my faith

RebeccaSeptember 30, 2021

So well written!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you! I can relate to everything the interviewees shared. This article is an answer to our prayers and pleadings. Again, THANK YOU!

Lennea GasserSeptember 30, 2021

Thanks for that excellent article. It was very helpful for me!

KJBSeptember 30, 2021

So the same people who bellow THE PROPHET HAS SPOKEN!!!!!! whenever the leadership says something that confirms their right-wing bias are suddenly sensitive little snowflakes who we need to just understand and be more tolerant of. Never mind that hospitals are filled with people who "did their own research." Never mind that they're prolonging a deadly pandemic and putting other people at risk for no better reason than I DON'T WANNA!!!!! (And I got a sore arm after my first Moderna shot and have flu-like symptoms for about a day after my second. Am I still glad I got it? Absolutely, because I'm not a selfish crybaby...)

Corey DinsdaleSeptember 30, 2021

It was an excellent article except for the references to our democracy, we live in a republic, history teaches us that all Democracy's have eventually failed. John's comments to the article are more anti-Trump rhetoric and mis-leading and he implies that the riot in the Capitol was due to Trump. I know a number of people both members of the church and nonmembers who interpreted Pres. Oaks talk as a repudiation of Trump, he said no such thing. Trump has an awful personality but at least he is supportive of religious freedom and certainly not part of the liberal, woke, PC culture that is ruining the country. Too many view what happened at the Capitol with a very shallow understanding or based solely on the visual scenes the media reported. With the exception of a few troublemakers those who were at the Capitol are patriotic people who love their country and the Constitution and were there because they see the country going to hell in a handbasket, which the last 9 months has been more than ample proof of that. I personally wonder if Pres. Oaks may have changed a few things in his talk if it was given today and not last April based on what has happened in the interim. Pres. Oaks said in his talk he doesn't believe the Lord will let the Constitution fail, I wish I had his optimism, free agency will always prevail for good or bad.

Cynthia M. MoorheadSeptember 30, 2021

We would all be at much higher risk of getting Covid-19 and even dying if a majority of the population had decided not to be vaccinated. The same is true of all vaccinations, which have saved countless lives. I agree that the government should not mandate vaccination -- there are some people whose health is compromised to the point where it would be risky for them. But for most of us it is the right thing to do, both for ourselves and to avoid passing on the virus to others. The vast majority of those who are dying from the new variants of the virus are those who are not vaccinated. D&C 5:19 and 97:22-26 really struck me as I have been studying the prophecies relating to the Second Coming of the Lord. Could this "scourge" that continues to be poured out be the coronavirus? There is a reason why the Lord chose a medical doctor to be His prophet at this time.

Taylor StonelySeptember 30, 2021

What a well thought out article this was! I appreciated the depth and breath of the issues mentioned and the personal interviews conducted. The approach to finding an answer about whether or not to get vaccinated is a personal one. Thank you!

LisaSeptember 30, 2021

It’s 4:30 AM and I can’t tell you how much I needed this article. It made me cry because I’ve experienced all those feelings and I’m still in the process of making a decision. We have been very much against the vaccine even though we’re not totally anti-VAX. My husband shocked me by doing a 180 even though he was very upset with the prophet when he first came out with a statement. He had to go through his own spiritual journey. I’m still in the process and have not yet received a yes answer. I am earnestly seeking and it helps to know I’m not alone. We can be faithful members of the church, yet still be struggling with this decision. Thank you so much for writing this.

John WaitingSeptember 30, 2021

Another fine article from Mark

vickieSeptember 29, 2021

OKAY YOU got me on this one. i screamed when i read the boy put that spider in his mouth. oh my goodness..i post many of your articles on my facebook to teach some of my relatives who arent members of the church about our church. many of them were teachers so i know they will love this story. thank you very much.

Maryann TaylorSeptember 29, 2021

I think this is a good example of how quotes or stories we read can be misunderstood. If we come to a conclusion that is out of harmony with the scriptures and what our Prophet teaches, we need to stop and rethink our interpretation. We also need to be careful about passing on stories or quotes that seem questionable. As Latter-day-Saints we must not be gullible. Always check out sources. Beware of stories that begin with: "My neighbor's sister said, " etc.

Theodore BrandleySeptember 29, 2021

I have been interested in this Russian Ten Tribes hypothesis since 1973 when I read Canadian author, Farley Mowat’s, " Sibir: My Discovery of Siberia". The indigenous tribes of Siberia were isolated from world history until the Cossacks breached the Ural Mountains and raped and pillaged them for “soft gold,” the Sable Mink, at about the same time that the Conquistadores were doing the same thing to the American Natives for hard gold. Some of these Siberian Tribes are white-skinned, blond and blue eyed. The Yakut tribe has a legend that long ago their leader, a chief named Elai, led his people from middle-Asia until they reached the banks of the Lena river. Elai carried with him the maxims of their people engraved on a stone tablet. When he saw the flowing water of the Lena he flung in the tablet and gave the order that this is where they were to stay (Sibir: My Discovery of Siberia, Farley Mowat, 1973, page 172). “26 And they who are in the north countries shall come in remembrance before the Lord; and their prophets shall hear his voice, and shall no longer stay themselves; and they shall smite the rocks, and the ice shall flow down at their presence.” (D&C 133:26) As this revelation was given from the Lord in 1831, we may safely conclude that “they who are in the north countries,” were still mostly there at that time. Notice that “the ice shall flow down at their presence.” This means that they are in an area of considerable ice, perhaps a normally permanent ice, or permafrost, that miraculously melts at that time. Going north and east the Tribes would have entered the Siberian Basin which is a huge bowl, larger than the United States, surrounded by the Ural Mountains on the west and the Steppes and the Sayan Mountains on the south. Back to D&C 133, notice that the Tribes from the North are to come to America before they return to Jerusalem. 27 And an ahighway shall be cast up in the midst of the great deep. 28 Their enemies shall become a prey unto them, 29 And in the abarren deserts there shall come forth pools of bliving water; and the parched ground shall no longer be a thirsty land. 30 And they shall bring forth their rich atreasures unto the children of Ephraim, my servants. 31 And the boundaries of the everlasting ahills shall tremble at their presence. 32 And there shall they fall down and be acrowned with glory, even in Zion, by the hands of the servants of the Lord, even the children of bEphraim. (D&C 133:27:32) There is only one body of water on the planet that could rightly be referred to as the “Great Deep” and that is the Pacific Ocean. A highway, or a land bridge is to be cast up for them to come to boundaries of the everlasting hills, or Rocky Mountains, and receive their Temple Ordinances under the hands of Ephraim. The only way this can work is if they come out of Siberia and therefore, we may conclude that is where many of them are. It is probable that the Mongols, just south of Siberia are also a remnant of the Lost Tribes.

Alan FlemingSeptember 29, 2021

A great point you make. In the April 2020, Gen. Conf. as the Covid pandemic was beginning President Nelson gave a talk in which he made 4 promises. Three of those promises, which we should read and ponder on, were in relation to this statement, "What will happen as you more intentionally hear, hearken, and heed what the Savior has said and what He is saying now through His prophets?" Yet many latter-day saints following April 2020 have chosen not to hear, hearken, and heed what Pres. Nelson has urged us to do. Our choice.

Jo Ann OkelberrySeptember 29, 2021

I so agree with this article. Children deserve a mother and a father who are married and love their children. Children shouldn't have to be the parents.

Vivian M AdamsSeptember 29, 2021

Good laugh!

Todd GalbraithSeptember 29, 2021

A heart-breaking topic, fairly and compassionately addressed. Thank you.

ObserverSeptember 29, 2021

There is an historical tradition that Christ visited the Lake Baikal region of Russia also.

Dorica Glassford Robertson (born Fras)September 29, 2021

I am of the House of Dan and come from Slovenia.

JozsSeptember 29, 2021

I have 4 now adult siblings adopted from Eastern Europe. Patriarchal blessings say they were adopted into Ephraim. One son says he has two tribes- Dan and Ephraim. He acts quite differently in his home country compared to USA home. Quite remarkable. 3/4 Russian lines.

J.L. GuinnSeptember 29, 2021

Really loved your article and agree that our young people must be prepared so they can stand firm. In a Sunday School lesson I was teaching recently I was instructing my young teens about going on a mission. I was telling them that they can't wait to the last minute to prepare and was citing the different areas that they must learn about and practice. One of them was learning the Bible because most of the people they would encounter would have questions about that book and would probably have not read the Book of Mormon. Go prepared to face the world by learning as much as you can to stand on your beliefs. Knowledge is power.

LexaGraemeSeptember 28, 2021

Thank you. I appreciate when folklore is debunked.

Debra AlmacheSeptember 28, 2021

Out of the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses shall ever word be established. The prophet is the first witness, the Holy Ghost is the second, and you are then a witness too.

Joanne KappSeptember 27, 2021

In complete agreement. So thankful someone with clout is speaking up.

Douglas E NadybalSeptember 27, 2021

The writer is arguing both for pedagogy more inclusive of differing world views while at the same time advocating for more exposure to material more typically LDS. You see, you can either go to the gas station and fill the tank and then drive, or you can drive and then stop at the gas station, but you can't do both at the same time!

Jill PalmerSeptember 27, 2021

At BYU in 1968, my first Book of Mormon class taught by Dr Glen Pearson was a real eye-opener and I wondered what had struck me! This class and another, "Teachings of the living prophets", were so valuable in opening my eyes to socialism and communism and the differences between them and the United Order/Law of Consecration. Today, I feel for Church members who do not know the difference. I agree with you that BYU has a valuable role in arming students against worldly philosophies and practices.

Elizabeth SSeptember 27, 2021

Great essay. I received bachelors and Masters degrees in English from BYU, but found that with one exception all my teachers tended to avoid analyzing literature through an LDS lens. When I got to law school at another university, I wished that I had had some comparative analysis of modern and postmodern philosophies that could easily have occurred when I studied literature.

DavidSeptember 27, 2021

I totally agree with this article. I’d like to see the church clean house at BYU. There is definitely no shame in enforcing its curriculum and it’s ideology. I think the gospel should be central to every course. BYU is it’s flagship school. I was there over 30 years ago. It wasn’t fighting so hard against political correctness and moral relativism back then. But it is one of the churches most known entities and I believe it should do better at preparing its alumni to face these challenges going forward.

DavidSeptember 27, 2021

It seems to me that there are many professors that are doing an excellent job of exposing BYU students to many -isms. But unfortunately instead of teaching them so as to be able to arm them to be able to argue against them effectively they are taught to them as truth. The Church needs to clean house or rid itself of BYU which is headed rapidly to becoming just another secular university.

Kelton ToblerSeptember 27, 2021

I agree that exposure to viewpoints in competition with secular and religious truths—with a view to affirming those truths and aiding their defense—can be a valuable component of an academically and spiritually edifying undergraduate education at BYU. The best time to learn something about Christian and specifically Latter-day-Saint apologetics may not be while under surprise attack in post-college years. BYU professors are ideally as intelligently faithful as they are highly educated. It can help students to hear how their teachers' faith has come through the refiner's fire of opposition.

SaraLyn BaxterSeptember 27, 2021

I agree completely! It seems like the perfect balance. We have such a unique opportunity at church schools— unique especially in this day— to examine more religious content through a scholarly and restored gospel lens, and to help develop thinking that can explore and argue against false ideologies popular in our day. Thank you for this thoughtful article.

Gary LawrenceSeptember 27, 2021

Spot on, Daniel. Thank you.

MeSeptember 27, 2021

There are plenty of professors there that teach against capitalism and for socialism.

Harold RustSeptember 27, 2021

Well, I'm 78 years old and started substitute teaching in our local school district four years ago---and I love it. For "old folks like me", your example is one of several that keeps us going. Your reflections have a fresh and youthful touch that does keep them relevant and inspiring. So...continue stirring the pot and we'll continue watching your example.

Duane BoyceSeptember 27, 2021

Amen. Very true and very well said, Dan.

Cynthia M. MoorheadSeptember 27, 2021

Be grateful you are old, because you and I are among the lucky ones who know what it is like to live in relative freedom. BYU is a great school, but too many there stand in awe of Harvard and other institutions that promote Marxism. Too many of our children are fans of the socialist/Marxist left and have become "for themselves." They will suffer for it. So will we.

Katherine CrapoSeptember 26, 2021

I think if I were in that situation I would consider adopting the children. Being a part-time caregiver i think would be more difficult than being completely in charge and being able to creatively provide a loving, structured, consistent environment for these children. Sometimes the seemingly harder path turns out to be the most fulfilling and in the end easier one. If your brother-in-law or husband balks, your offer would only serve to awaken them to the heavy responsibility it is to care for a family.

Linda in TexasSeptember 25, 2021

Since immunity from having the disease is many times more powerful than the vaccinations, where does that come in the calculations?

Bob AillerySeptember 25, 2021

I appreciate the insights this story gives us. Even though my wife and I haven't the exact same challenge this good Sister has, I learned through this article the basic marital struggles they have are perhaps common to all of us. Thank you for this.

Doris WilliamsSeptember 25, 2021

I look forward to Geoff's article each week so much. I really admire his insights into human behavior and he really blows me away by his empathy and suggestions to help in really difficult situations. The world would be a much better, loving place if we could clone him!!! Thank you Geoff for sharing some of your "cases" with us. I'm sure it gives us all increased understanding and the desire to improve our own interpersonal skills.

CBSeptember 24, 2021

Excellent as always! Thank you

Jean PetersenSeptember 24, 2021

It was over 50 years ago I was introduced to a book and a course called "Fascinating Womanhood" by Helen B. Andelin. I can say that the principles she taught were correct and nothing else will be as effective in helping a marriage as learning to be fascinating to your husband. Living all of the principles of the gospel are vital to this success. We have been married 56 years now. My husband and I have had many challenges in life. We adore each other and look forward to being together throughout eternity. Aubrey Andelin wrote a book called "Man of Steel and Velvet" teaching correct principles for a man to know what he can do to be admired by his wife. A woman's greatest desire in life is to be loved, a man's is to be admired.

LMSeptember 24, 2021

The comments warranted reading more than the article, which was a too-typical example of beating around the stats without actually answering important questions such as: "How do you ethically justify your position when the hospitalization rates of fully vaccinated people in countries such as Israel (or even read the CDC's own admission of 74% in their article below) show that vaccination does not prevent infection with COVID?"

Maryann TaylorSeptember 24, 2021

One of the best methods of strengthening yourself is to be aware of your thoughts. When you notice you are thinking negative thoughts about yourself, or your life--HANG UP! Just like you would if someone called you on your phone every 5 minutes and told you something negative about yourself. Then choose a simple positive thought to hold in your heart, such as : "The Lord always loves me, even when I make mistakes." "The Lord is helping to carry this infirmity that I suffer with." "The Lord feels my pain and He has great compassion for me." "The Lord knows EVERYTHING about me and understands." Choose your positive thought and, as you hold one simple positive thought in your mind, notice how you feel. Even if you don't believe the positive thought, you will usually feel a warm feeling. Keep telling yourself these positive things--it doesn't matter whether you believe it right now. Just hold that thought in your heart.

Ruth J.September 24, 2021

When my daughter was about 3 years old we had just finished an addition to our home. She would now have her own bedroom instead of sharing one with a sibling. Now in her own room, night after night she would wake up scared at now being alone. She would come into our room and wake me up saying, "Mommy I am scared." I would take her back into her room and say a prayer with her that she would feel safe and sleep well. This went on for weeks. Then one morning I realized that the night before she hadn't woken up scared. I said, "Wow, you didn't wake up last night. I am so proud of you staying in your room." She just casually as could be responded, "I woke up and I was scared last night. I just said my own prayer and then Jesus came and gave me a hug. Jesus protected me and made me feel safe." I was so struck by her comment I didn't know what to say for a moment. I paused, and then asked her, "What did he look like?" She said, "He was dressed in white and had white hair and blue eyes." That gave me tingles. I knew that what she said was true. Jesus had come to her last night. He had given her a hug and made her feel safe. We had never talked to her or shown her pictures of Jesus with white hair. But in the scriptures the resurrected Jesus is described as having white hair and brilliant blue eyes. In the temple Jesus is also shown this way. I knew that the only way she could know this is that she did actually see him. It touched my heart so much. Jesus loves his little ones so dearly that he will come to them to bring comfort.

Sasha KwapinskiSeptember 24, 2021

Since church critics keep bringing up the name of Oliver Granger, then perhaps we can say that this is one way in which the prophecy (of his name being remembered) is being fulfilled.

Maryann TaylorSeptember 24, 2021

One of the ways I prepare for general conf is to pray for our Prophet and all who will be speaking or participating in any way. I pray that they will be strengthened physically and spiritually. I also pray for their families. This is an important way for me to uphold our leaders through my faith. I believe it also strengthens me in being willing to receive and follow their counsel.

CubbySeptember 24, 2021

Samoa did much the same, praying for protection from Covid in March 2020. The entire nation was invited to join. As a missionary, I choose to join them in unity and faith. The islands of Samoa are Covid free, and so am I. For me it has been an incredible experience as I have not only been protected, but the Lord has guided me in assisting my family who has gone through the experience of covid. I was inspired to make covid kits and deliver them, one two days before the entire family came down with it. They had just moved and thought they had nothing until they opened the box. For one person who had it, I was inspired to purchase an air filter. I was even inspired as to exactly which air cleaner I was to purchase. As I brought it home, I wondered why. There was no need for it. Then about a week later the fires hit both Idaho and Utah. Compromised lungs for my family were blessed and I knew why the prompting. When the vaccines came out I prayed yes, or no. For me, the answer was yes. Then I prayed asking which of the three in the USA was available. I signed up for one, but again a small miracle as a different one was presented, the feeling was strong and we took it. I do not tell which one because I believe different people’s bodies respond best. To different vaccines and encourage all to pray. This week Samoa had two special days where everyone stayed home and the medical people went to everyone’s homes who still needed a vaccination. Given my experience, Imam sue French Polynesia will also experience many wonderful small events telling them quietly that the Lord heard them and is at their side.

KathySeptember 24, 2021

He is simply a sperm donor with no intent to create a family, nothing more than a one night stand. I see no reason to develop a relationship and upset his marriage of45 years.

Gary LawrenceSeptember 23, 2021

To Dianna J. Currie: Email me at [email protected] and let me see if I can help.

AJ CurrieSeptember 23, 2021

Unfortunately, the 'breakdown of the family' is not the core problem. If one were to ask why families are 'breaking down', the answer would have to do with their loss of gospel truths due to godlessness (maybe caused by the loss of fundamental truths taught by Jesus Christ). At any rate, if a fix for any modern-day woe does not include fidelity to the teachings of Jesus Christ, you know it is not 'the solution' to the problem. It might make the problem less, but it will not cure the problem.

Karl FarnsworthSeptember 23, 2021

I remember the name of Oliver Granger very well. A young Elder by that same name was one of my Assistants when I was serving as the Mission President in the California Los Angeles Mission in 1993. He was a decendent of the Oliver Granger of whom this article refers to and was an outstanding missionary and servant of the Lord. His only desire was to serve in the same fashion as his name sake.

LexaGraemeSeptember 23, 2021

I'm horrified and laughing at the same time. Can't wait for Part 3!

L GoldadeSeptember 23, 2021

I’m diabetic and unfortunately had my two children in the car with me when I drove off the road with low blood sugar. An ambulance took me to the hospital and a friend driving behind me on the road took my children with her to the hospital. Later, my 3 year old son, Garrett, said to me: “Mom I did just what Jesus told me to do”. When I asked him what Jesus said, he told me: “Jesus told met to stand right next to the car and stay off the road”. How could I doubt my son? Jesus was there to make sure our children were safe!

dCylSeptember 23, 2021

"Further, an EUA cannot be allowed if a safe and effective treatment is already available. Many doctors claim there is such a protocol. So what is really going on?" Those doctors aren't being honest with you.

Martha ClantonSeptember 23, 2021

This was just what I needed to read this morning. Thank you so very much for all that you do to bring us such uplifting material.

RMBSeptember 23, 2021

6 months pregnant, an apendectomy and a serious infection and I left the hospital room to visit with Him. He showed me my baby girl and told me I had to go back and that I had lots of work still to do. I will never forget that amazing experience. Thank you for the stories of the children with Jesus. He loves us all so very much.

Kristen KriegSeptember 23, 2021

A recent plan for a 'greener' meetinghouse was named after Oliver Granger. Hence, there are "Granger" style meetinghouses in various places now. I think the first one was built in Farmington, UT. It was inspired that this meetinghouse plan should carry Oliver Granger's name!

John R CarpenterSeptember 23, 2021

FamilySearch has accomplished an amazing task. It is much improved over its humble beginnings on line. Now if only they can straighten out all the copyright and use issues. And improve its search engine so the "public" at home can have access to ALL of those microfilms that have been digitized.

Helen CondonSeptember 23, 2021

Thank you for this insight into Father’s personal relationship with each one of us. My name is registered not only on the records of His Son’s Church, but also in my patriarchal blessing. While neither of these sources are exactly canonized, they are certainly sacred, at least to me. I recently testified that just as everyone at an old friend’s funeral declared themselves his best friend, so are each and every one of us friends to our Father and our Savior.

Diane IrwinSeptember 23, 2021

Anne, these stories are so tender! What a wonderful testimony that Jesus LIVES!!! Thanks so much for sharing.

Herm OlsenSeptember 23, 2021

Amen and Amen! Thank you, Brethren!

DebbieSeptember 22, 2021

I have enjoyed reading every article you have written. This one is my favorite. I am one who has propagated the idea that brain chemistry is to blame for depression. I will no longer dispense that falsehood. I have suffered from depression since I was 4 years old. After a pregnancy I spent 13 years in bed with suicidal ideation. The Lord finally took away my Suicidal Thoughts but I still struggle today and assumed that could never change. Thank you for such a thoughtful, informative, and compassionate letter. It makes me want to try again to h e a l.

John R. HillSeptember 22, 2021

Elder Callister's article on the Constitution, as well as the last General Conference talk by President Dallin Oaks on the same subject, are sorely needed in our culture at a time when our democratic principles and norms are under assault. We have seen recently a former president of the United States go to extraordinary and extra-legal lengths to overturn the results of the 2020 election---thereby trashing the Constitution and the very nation he had vowed to make great again. He has pursued this course---not with the support of the judiciary or the military, but with the support of his party's base of loyal voters and supporters. Whatever happened to the democratic principle of accepting peacefully the results of elections? I love how Elder Callister ended his poignant article. Quoting President Benson's statement that the in the latter days, the Constitution "will be saved by enlightened members of this Church---men and women who will subscribe to and abide the principles of the Constitution"---Elder Callister hopes that includes you and me.

JenSeptember 22, 2021

“Pro-choice” is a misnomer! “Pro-murder” is the correct name.

MikeSeptember 22, 2021

I am going to disagree. My sainted grandmother graduated from nursing school a year before the Spanish influenza. She saved many lives and helped many more into their transition to the next life, including both of her parents. She raised her children during the Great Depression. When grandfather had a stroke and couldn't work as hard, they lost the dairy farm. They moved into the little rock house up in the mountains in a climate about like Sundance Ski resort. They had 5 rocky acres and grew quite a bit of their food. They raised chickens, cows and a pig. Her sons poached an occasional deer when their was no meat left. The 3 room rock house was the size of a one car garage with 2 bedrooms and a kitchen. They had no electricity, and heated it with a wood/coal stove. They had a spring right outside the door and the privy was a short walk away. They raised their 9 children there. The little ones slept in the same room with the parents and up to 5 girls in one bed in the other room. The boys slept outside on the back porch. When grandma's sister was killed, the grieving louse of a husband left their 6 poorly disciplined children with grandma and ran off to a life of adventure in California. Her 2 oldest daughters married young. One to a drunk who beat her. She moved back to the rock house with her 2 children and her ex-husband's illegitimate child from a 15 year old girl. One teenage daughter got pregnant by a soldier home on leave at a similar age and eventually they married after the war, but she lived in the rock house, with a baby. Grandma's 4 sons and 4 sons-in-law fought in WWII. Her oldest son was missing in action for 3 years and came home with severe shell-shock after spending the time hiding in the jungle and as a prisoner of war. He never fully recovered. Her second son was wounded in the battle of the bulge. One son-in-law lost his legs in Italy and another lost an eye and his hearing. Her youngest, the smallest and scrappiest of the boys, was 1 of only 3 out of a group of about 50 guys in his unit to make it home alive, with terrible scars on his face. A group of 3 pregnant Japanese women were hiding nearby in the mountains because they did not want to have their babies in a prison camp. Grandma gave them food and firewood and delivered their babies. She got other ladies in the tiny town to help them. One day she went to visit them and found them all dead. She got blamed for "poisoning the japs," but was never prosecuted for it. When I came along, life had improved. They had a better house, financed by the soldiers pay the 8 boys had saved. I knew all of these people and the next generation were my cousins. I got the impression that the years in the rock house were the happiest times of their lives. I guess bad experiences do make for great memories. When it comes to children, especially close kin, there are no self-focused boundaries and no legalistic excuses. If the original parents can't cut it (or won't) people like my grandmother have to step in. Else the problems get magnified each generation. A few of my cousins went on to do great things. Most are living normal lives. One became a gangster, killed and raped people, and died in a shoot-out. A couple struggled and eventually overcame alcohol or drug abuse. A handful got pregnant before marriage. Most but not all of the boys served missions. A few had divorces. Grandma made a huge difference, down to the 3rd and 4th generation. These numbers would have been markedly skewed the other direction without her sacrifice. This challenge is an opportunity for you to be, not just a good person, but a saint. The children will pay you back for your efforts, one way or another. Image being there for their graduation, from school or prison, the birth of their children, into a loving marriage or into desperate conditions. Take the long view; not weeks and months, but decades and generations.

Jim ScottSeptember 22, 2021

The numbers are enormous and victims are hurt and seeking retribution. I keep thinking the vultures are gathering. How many victims are opportunists, how many lawyers are opportunists. Class actions are way too flimsy in their character and not all cases are as egregious as others. Proofs can’t be investigated as thoroughly as they might be were the numbers smaller. I can see where actions in court will last until the last piece of furniture is sold the last pencil is gone to exact the full measure of punishment meted out. Justice seems a long way away from exacting punishment of the perpetrators. Does $10,000 assuage my crippled conscience? Is my claim so valid is my hate so huge as to jeopardize any future good. The BSA lead thousands to achieve to grow to anchor to contribute to succeed that a few would destroy the sum of contribution. Winnow the claim, get past the inner anger and cling to the good given by membership.

KristenSeptember 22, 2021

Good question from Lawrence. We can't help but wonder what is really going on, when we know there are affordable, effective, and safe treatments out there.

craigSeptember 22, 2021

The chances the Supreme Court overturn Roe v Wade are slim to none. They established the right to abortion in Roe, and upheld Roe as constitutional precedent in Casey v Planned Parenthood. The leftists judges of Kagan, Breyer, Sotomayor, will never vote to overturn Roe. Chief Justice Roberts will probably agree with them in order to prevent attacks on the court that could lead to court packing. It's also likely that justice Gorsuch will go along under the philosophy of stare decesis. That leaves only justices Kavanaugh, Barret, Thomas, and Alito. So based on this assessment the challenge to Roe will fail 5-4. And truth be told many pro lifers would prefer this. After if Roe were to be overturned they'd be out of work. Roe's existence fuels their fundraising and keeps them politically relevant.

Jim ScottSeptember 22, 2021

If you had a cold, I’d recommend aspirin, liquids, rest and sleep, if you were bleeding, I’d see to a cold compress or even a hospital, if you arm or leg were broken I’d see to your comfort and care at a facility, if you were cold I’d find a way to warm you, if you needed to be somewhere I’d arrange for transport. But, I can’t “see” mental illness, where’s the blood, the crooked arm or leg, where’s the touch point to comfort, where’s the place to which you need transport. I take personal any that can’t cope, have difficulties moving or reacting. Helpless I’d try to encourage or reach out but find myself at a loss for words so come up with bland generalities and never reach the point of cure. So, forgive my clumsiness my seeming lack of caring or my ignorance of your plight and only know each life is valuable to someone, even when alone. God is in his heaven and loves each of us. That you may find that vessel of care and coping is in my heart and prayer.

Jim McEwenSeptember 22, 2021

An interesting and well organized article. Another very telling story would be one where it is reported how much money the attorneys personally gain from the settlements. Collectively and individually. Then compare that to what each victim will receive.

Charles DEFRANCHISeptember 22, 2021

Some members of my family have been plagued with various forms of depression across generations. Positive mental attitude won't do for chemically-induced depression, and some patients, especially bipolar ones, may have to rely on lithium-based medicine, in order to retain their sanity. Popular LDS writer and former Mission President Brent Top, who experienced depression in his own life, insisted that his depressed missionaries take their prescription drugs in order to respect the Word of Wisdom. Further, the science of depression has made significant progress in recent years, with better tools for diagnosis and better remedies. Let's never underestimate that in order to find balance and serenity into our own lives or that of affected relatives.

Susan ZmolekSeptember 22, 2021

Thank you for answering the very questions on my mind, in this complicated mess. God's eventual justice is certain, the damage to those abused is real, and at least my church is offering to do its fair share to compensate victims. Although it is beyond the scope of this essay, the Church can also be commended for its clear and direct efforts to prevent all future instances of victimization by responsibly requiring double-manning at every level of youth programs -- from the youngest Sunday school class up to teen camping activities. Vigilance and changes in culture will accomplish even more than the compensation to victims of abuse.

Ann-Marie JensenSeptember 21, 2021

The House of Representatives is to represent the people, not fight the people.

Maryann TaylorSeptember 21, 2021

While I heartily agree that we need to reach out in love and include others, I rarely read anything about the effort that needs to take place on the part of the person who feels "left out." Don't we each have accountability for our own happiness---for reaching out ourselves instead of always expecting others to continuously draw us in? I have heard all too often the complaint that: "The ward just isn't friendly," or "No one spoke to me today." The obvious question is: "Did YOU speak to them?" Did YOU look around for someone who might need YOUR fellowship?" Seems to me this is a two-way street. If you feel you don't belong, maybe it's time to stop thinking about yourself and reach out to others.

JaniceSeptember 21, 2021

Excellent. Thank you. I feel a FHE lesson coming on!

JeannieSeptember 21, 2021

Take control of this situation! Instead of agreeing to babysit at anytime, tell your husband and brother in law both of the weekends you are available for the next 6 months--that might be one weekend, or more--but you set the calendar. If the brother in law needs help during a time when you are not available, then your husband can watch the children or the brother in law will have to make other arrangements. You also probably know this, but the brother in law is not your major issue here--it is the lack of respect and consideration from your husband. I am guessing that there are other issues in your marriage with your husband besides being taken advantage of by the brother in law. You are in charge of you and you and your husband need to work some things out. God bless you in your charity--but don't put your own health at risk. Take charge of this situation. You can do this and set your own boundaries!

Hal LillywhiteSeptember 21, 2021

But don't forget that during much of Brother Brigham's life, the typical treatment a doctor would provide was to bleed the patient. They believed that helped, but we have to suspect that draining a pint or two (maybe more) of badly needed blood did not help the patient. Modern allotropic medicine was in its infancy.

JaneSeptember 21, 2021

This is fascinating and insightful. Gave me a lot of food for thought. No surprise that it came from FAIR!

H NorthSeptember 21, 2021

Wise people aren't "vaccine" hesitant--they are government hesitant. That's what happens when the government openly, continuously and blatantly lies. The CDC, NIH, WHO, saint fauci, and xiden have zero credibility, and anyone with any common sense doesn't trust anything they say. And when doctors parrot those same lies, they also lose their credibility, and also will no longer be trusted.

Dianna J. CurrieSeptember 21, 2021

Being a convert (joined at 30 years old) I wish I had been given this so I could have expressed my thinking in an easy manner. I love this concept, I want to know how to use it, I haven't figured that out yet. I will figure it out! I have family, and friends I want to share this with.

A. BinghamSeptember 21, 2021

THANK YOU for this rational, logical and evidence-based rebuttal. Dr. Park's piece was yet another hit propaganda, sloppy at best, was only meant to divide. And certainly below the standard of academic prowess the good Dr. prides himself on. It was terribly sloppy and Dr. Park will continue to embarrass himself if he continues to claim this was a sound academic/scientific piece. Frankly this is on the order of a D rated movie or poor attempt to craft a fictitious article on the order of your average gossip magazine. It is sad Dr. Park has sunk this low. Of course those who enjoy and drink this type of emotional, venomous frontal attack without even basic logic and importantly sound evidence, have drunk the koolaid and enjoy fomenting contention without merit.

Aleisa EatonSeptember 21, 2021

So well written! Thank you for your research and gift of writing.

Ken NoelSeptember 21, 2021

Yes, I would like the opportunity to buy a copy of the book. The realization that I truly am a son the the Eternal Father helps me be optimistic while facing the frustrations and pains of mortality.

Tristen SmithSeptember 21, 2021

Wonderful article. Thank you for sharing the data, which disproves Park's claims.

Carolyn R LeeSeptember 21, 2021

Whenever I see Tad Callister's name, I know it will be worthwhile to read. This article should be in the Liahona so that every member of the Church would see and read it. I'm sending it to my grandchildren to help them know how to better defend the history of our country and the inspired documents of the founding, Thank you, Brother Callister!

Lawrence J SteimleSeptember 21, 2021

" if we don’t actively seek and obtain good information and use our minds to their full capacity, then “false information flourishes”..." Here is some good information... Perhaps the best I've seen.

Des BromilowSeptember 21, 2021

hats off to your father for introducing you to Tom Lehrer!!!! I would love to be as observant and eloquent in showing how the world is... but in Tom's own words, it's a moot point in this current day and age.

AJ CurrieSeptember 20, 2021

Wonderfully written article discussing a complex, emotionally-charged topic with tangled legal responsibilities. I think the author has done a wonderfully even-handed job of explaining things to we who are not schooled in the law. The only clear issue in this case is the morally repugnant, criminal behavior or the perps. It is wonderful to know that despite the heartaches and troubles created by the perpetrators, the Savior will eventually heal all the victims and any repentant perps.

Douglas E NadybalSeptember 20, 2021

This to me is like the Articles of Faith but in the form of a multi choice test. Another way is to simply hand the person a list of statements of belief and vote yes or no. The risk of course is that if one scores low there would be a tendency to dismiss the LDS faith is viable for them. But the essence of being converted is that we allow our view to change, and this does nothing to achieve that. Simple, but how effective really?

ChrisSeptember 20, 2021

Beautifully articulate

Douglas E NadybalSeptember 20, 2021

My first take away from this fine article is that my take away is probably based on my pre-existing world view and therefore is probably wrong. That said, I am comforted by having read all 13 pages and look forward to part two. It seems to me that most everybody having the non mormon world view has found that they can get away with bashing mormon culture. Doing so won't get you kicked out as opposed to the more direct attacks on Church policy, leaders, etc. But attacking Mormon culture really affects me more, because it is personal, and opposed to theoretical or what is another persons ideas. So, now I have a short rebuttal to defend myself and ourselves with... maybe there is nothing wrong with Mormon culture, maybe something is wrong with your world view of Mormon culture. Let them stew on that.

C> M HowserSeptember 20, 2021

Wonderful to read - thank you for reminding us of the beautiful constitution and how fortunate we are to live today under the umbrella of such guidance.

Jo Ann OkelberrySeptember 20, 2021

Thank you for this very informative article. Child abuse is such a terrible sin.

Lawrence J SteimleSeptember 20, 2021

There is a great deal of information online that questions the safety and efficacy of these experimental inoculations. When they are promoted under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) and the manufacturers are given protection against lawsuits for any adverse reactions, it gives one pause. Further, an EUA cannot be allowed if a safe and effective treatment is already available. Many doctors claim there is such a protocol. So what is really going on?

Jill AndrewsSeptember 20, 2021

Thank you for this article. I have been interested in better understanding what a world view is and how it affects our beliefs and choices and this has done it in a way that explains so much! Thank you very very much- I will be thinking and learning much more on this. Thank you in advance for part two!

carolSeptember 20, 2021

You can make all the laws or statements you want to help the marginalized but what it really comes down to is the individual - we each have to love our brothers and sisters as God does - and you can't make that a law. Lets all step up and truly be a child of God and love our brothers and sisters as we love ourselves and Him.

Emily M.September 19, 2021

I'm adding in my strong support that the wife needs to set boundaries with her husband, and they both need to set boundaries with the brother-in-law. I have been discussing this with my own therapist. She told me to think of all the times in the temple where God sets boundaries. It's actually pretty stunning, everything from boundaries on when the world is created, to getting to stay in Eden, to casting out evil. God is a God of boundaries. And, as His children, He is setting an example for us to place and hold our boundaries as well. I have since started reading the Book of Mormon through the lens of how God sets boundaries and it's very, very illuminating. This appears in the Book of Mormon too, where King Benjamin tells his people that they need to serve others but do so in wisdom and in order, and not run faster than they have strength. Wisdom and order means that it's okay and important to set boundaries on service. I completely agree that this is no longer a situation of acute need. It's chronic. The husband and the brother-in-law may resist setting boundaries, but that is still what needs to happen here. What's a realistic amount that their family can be involved with the children and not burn out? This is a hard situation since the wife does not have the kind of support she needs from her husband. I hope that he reads this and realizes that, while his heart has been in the right place, with a desire to serve, it's simply not right to place his brother above his wife in her divine need to set and hold boundaries here.

DJSeptember 18, 2021

This is great non-threatening way to encourage curiosity about religious thought and the gospel. Is there a way to make it more sharable for social media?

Pauline HarrySeptember 17, 2021

Interesting isn’t it?

LindaSeptember 17, 2021

It's easy. Stop being a doormat, and tell him NO.

MaureenSeptember 17, 2021

Great article, reminding us to think about how we come to think about the questions we have and why those are our particular questions in this time and place. After 74 years of absorbing the culture(s) I live in and/or have seen or read about, it's still not always evident the way these assumed values morph over time, nor how very different they may be among God's children across the earth. Good to be reminded now and then.

Diane IrwinSeptember 17, 2021

This is fantastic! I just copied the URL of the website and posted it to my Facebook page, with a comment asking folks to comment on it!!

Mary ColemereSeptember 17, 2021

Lynne, as usual you are right on! Thank you for posting this article. It is time for everyone posting on facebook (including myself) to think hard about whether it is advisable to post a strongly worded, abusive opinion. We should think about who, or what group of people, it could possibly offend. Thank you!!

Janna Stout MorrellSeptember 17, 2021

Such an Excellent and well-thought article! As I began reading, several things occurred to me. Firstly, I loved how this author states that really only being truly converted will enable us to prioritize our thinking and perhaps reorder our worldview using the lens of the Gospel. I think of the people mocking and pointing fingers from the “great and spacious building” of Lehi’s Dream. Many adopt a worldview because of the loud voices or shame which confuse or blur our lens. Our worldview is influenced by the culture of the community where we grow up. Our friends, school mates, teachers, and eventually our marriage partners and their family’s views can have so much influence on how we think. It underscores the importance of choosing wisely our closest associations. Most importantly, good parental examples and intentional Gospel teaching will make all the difference in In our children’s lives, helping them form their worldview according to the teachings of Jesus Christ.

kim mossSeptember 17, 2021

This a great thing, well done. I do have a question about the two web sites included in the article. Neither of them work. Or am I doing something wrong? Thanks, Kim Moss

Claudia Henderson SmithSeptember 17, 2021

Very good article. We're experiencing the LGBT+ problem in our family, and it is not easy. Can't wait to read Part 2.

CarolSeptember 17, 2021

This sounds so very interesting and such a great way to find out, without pressure, the truth about the LDS faith. It may bring up things you would not think of or feel comfortable in asking friends or missionaries.

Ayse KOCHSeptember 17, 2021

Thses articles have given me much to think about and peruse in myself... we all may take part in several world views just to get along in society. Thank you for presenting the various worldviews which conflict with our Gospel view. I believe that should be our priority in every aspect of what we think, do and act. IYet, i seems to me being cognizant that other views may be other people's priority can help to be more compassionate and understanding with them.

Ed JesseeSeptember 17, 2021

Great concept, article and approach for introducing basic Gospel Principles to others.

FelicitySeptember 17, 2021

I think that it's very unfair of the brother-in-law to expect his family to watch his children. This is his lot in life to take care of his children and yes, granted neither he nor the children asked for the wife and mom to pass away. This dear sister's husband is just as selfish as his brother expecting his wife to take care of the children. It has already built up resentment and her needs, like so many sisters, are not taken into account. I don't know if her question has been adequately answered considering that she suffers from mental fatigue which is what I would call it. Telling her to put her foot down and discuss this with her husband to find a solution means that all the responsibility and the stress falls on her which is unfair considering that she is the one who is left with the children. Personally, I would pack up my children and move to one of her family members for a little while so that her husband and his brother can sort things out. Why are men so selfish and demanding and yes, this is a broad statement as I know some are exceptionally kind and supportive.

Maryann TaylorSeptember 17, 2021

I LOVED your statement that we define marriage as between a man and a woman because that is what GOD IS. We want to be like our Heavenly parents. I am sure one of the reasons we shouted for joy in our pre-mortal life at the prospect of coming to earth is because we would have the opportunity to be married and have children, thereby following the pattern set by God himself. Everything that we are asked to do by our Savior is with the single purpose of helping us to become more like our Heavenly Father and to enjoy the kind of life he lives. Beautiful!

Maryann TaylorSeptember 17, 2021

This is the best article I have read on this subject. Making our sexuality the most important facet of who we ARE is divisive, and also detracts from the fact that we are, first and foremost, children of God. When we embrace the gospel of Christ, we covenant to give up anything and everything that is not in harmony with his divine plan. For single men and women, whether they are gay or straight, that means complete celibacy.

Maryann TaylorSeptember 17, 2021

I believe many leave the church because they are overwhelmed and stressed out by what they mistakenly believe is required of them. Instead of using the gospel for support, they carry it on their backs until they wear out. People who suffer from depression or have unrealistic expectations of themselves are especially vulnerable to this kind of burn-out. It is better to go without having a calling for a time than to leave the church. Satan loves to engage us in rigid "black & white" or "all or nothing" thinking. As members, we can help one another by avoiding this kind of teaching. We would all be a lot happier if we stopped comparing ourselves with others. We also need to let go of worrying about what others think of us and focus more on having a loving relationship with the Savior. He is patient. He is kind. He is happy with every small effort we make. When we do what we can reasonably do, he will make up the difference for us. We need to accept his gift.

Maryann TaylorSeptember 17, 2021

It is best to stay away from reading OR posting contentious social media posts altogether. Even if you don't add your own venom to the mix, the angry posts of others are going into your mind and planting ugly seeds there.

Maryann TaylorSeptember 17, 2021

The husband does not have the right to say "yes" to his brother regarding work that will actually be done by his wife. He seems to be more concerned about his brother than the health and well-being of his own wife. Since the brother has the means to provide childcare for his children, he is taking advantage of his brother and wife. This is especially troubling since some of his trips are for pleasure. It is not surprising that the brother had a falling out with other family members who previously cared for his children. Since the wife has already told her husband it is too much for her, she needs to be more assertive. The next time the husband says his wife will care for his brother's children, she might respond with, "Sorry, I am NOT taking care of the children. YOU will have to make other arrangements since YOU are the one who agreed." Sounds like this husband is guilt-driven, which has absolutely nothing to do with living the gospel of Jesus Christ.

KathleenSeptember 16, 2021

Both were BEAUTIFUL and spiritual


Well said of our value systems in this life. A the Church we are ask to be "worthy" of various activities. We are to partake of the sacrament worthily. We are to lives our so as to be worthy of the inspiration of the Holy Ghost and so forth. However we are not given the definition of constitutes being worthy. At what point to we become worthy and when do we become unworthy? Are we constantly moving from worthy to unworthy in the matter of minutes, days or some unknown amount of time. Is being worthy before God the same as being worthy in the Lord's Church and how is this defined?

Erik HansenSeptember 16, 2021

Well done study and address. It's great to see the doctrines of the Gospel further explained and defended in the real world --- Of course the application is what counts. I see that there are real people's problems, interpretations and actual events that are left out of the big educational explanations and intellectualism. Here are the things I hear in my world: "I am righteous. How can I show kindness or give to a person committing these serious sins. It's not right if I do." "In today's world the most money is given to rich and corrupt men. I want to see the poor receive." "Abortion is murder and no abortion is right regardless of circumstance." "I will always be stern with people to let them know that I disagree with their actions." "Am I a good Christian because of the politics in my life?" No one seems to think to, en masse, correct or encourage the many specific interpretations all around. It's too messy. To say "Follow the Spirit" isn't always helpful. It's easy to show doctrine in theory. It's hard to deal with real-life interpreting.

Leigh Ann SmithSeptember 16, 2021

I totally agree with Geoff's suggestion. We had custody of our three grandchildren for 4.5 years during our sons bittter divorce. His wife was an alcoholic/drug addict. she falsely accused our son of abuse and there was no evidence, and went to jail for a second dui, and lost their house due to prostitution after the judge awarded it to her. However, she left the state and her family helped her get a house and an attorney and she got the kids. We haven't spoken to the girls in almost 5 years. They wre 2,5 & 10 when we got them and almost 7, 11 and 15 when we lost them. The oldest, our grandson, was abused the worst because he openly wanted to leave and come back and he eventually ran away successfully and finally got an interview with the judge at 16 and never has to see her again. But those two girls have been raised by their sick, disfunctional mother and we have no right to even speak with them. It is better to show the tough love to the grown children when you have to and save the next generation. We don't regret for one minute anything we did in those 5 years we took care of those kids and never will, even though the court system failed them and us.

MarySeptember 16, 2021

A question I have often had is what about the women and men who have never had the opportunity to marry...they continue to date - always seeking for but never finding the person they wanted to marry? Or what about women and men who have lost their spouses to death or divorce. Surely they have a desire for the same serious relationship with someone again. Are they exempt from continuing to make moral decisions to remain celibate? I know many people who fall into these two categories who have chosen to live moral lives, choosing chasitity and waiting for the blessings that come and more that will come when staying close to the Savior. They live happy and productive and joyous lives. They don't feel denied any opportunity to move forward in the gospel plan. When a choice is made to justify the same gender path, it thwarts the Plan of Salvation and the Plan of Happiness...which are named thus for very specific reasons. To know that it can bring the peace and joy and comfort that comes when following the Savior's plan - to be redeemed from this mortal and imperfect being... and protect us and help us return to our Him. We all just keep trying no matter what our earthly trials are!

GinnySeptember 16, 2021

I love this article! After reading so many comments on social media that are less than kind, I have no desire to express an opinion. There is ALWAYS someone who will take exception to it and usually it not done kindly.

Kay RookhuyzenSeptember 16, 2021

This was a well thought post and I 100% agree. It is sad to see people--even my own sisters!--go crazy about political or COVID or vaccination stuff. They thing I'm crazy because they don't think I care. I do. I just don't let my feelings affect others, just not comfortable in case they don't agree. I'm tired of being told how I should feel!

Yves ValenSeptember 16, 2021

Excellent article.

Lee HillSeptember 16, 2021

Terrific article, Lynne! It made me realize I haven't always been very Christ-like in my social media posts. I have resolved more than once to either be more gentle in my posts / response to posts or just pass by offending posts without comment. I usually do well but could obviously do better. Thank you!

All the single ladiesSeptember 16, 2021

Re the comment “ A man who has no sexual attraction to women is not going to want to marry a women whether they could or could not do so in the temple under covenant. The same is true of a women who is not attracted physically to men. I don't believe the church policy encourages you to do that regardless just so you can be married in the temple. I believe the reason most gay and lesbian people leave the church is because they want an intimate serious relationship with someone of the same sex. The church does not condone this.” Consider for a moment the array of celibate heterosexual people in the church who wait decades looking for a spouse, some of whom never marry. They also do not marry or have fulfilling sex lives, but they exist and they make their choices based on their values. Many may quite correctly identify that a barrier to them finding a partner is their insistence on chastity in a world where this is not the norm. Just worth noting.

Sharee HughesSeptember 16, 2021

I went onto Amazon to order the ebook version of Heather's book, but it was about $20. To pay just a few dollars less for an ebook than a hardback is ridiculous I don't know if it's Heather who sets the price or Shadow Mountain, but that price needs to be reconsidered.

Bradley J. KramerSeptember 16, 2021

Excellent points and analysis. The Sermon on the Mount is often seen as advocating unconditional love. However, the point of removing impediments from one's vision of others is so that we can see them more clearly and help them repent, not simply accept them as they are. As Matthew 7:5 reads, "first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye."

KathleenSeptember 16, 2021

In theory, these ideas seem nice, but are wholly unrealistic, and frankly, they miss the reality of life as an LGBTQ+ member of the Church. No one is saying that a person's sexuality or gender identity is their whole identity. But it is also ludicrous to deny that it is an essential part of a person's identity. Being able to enjoy both full membership blessings while also having a deeply felt, intimate love relationship with the person of your choice is not a possibility for people who are only attracted to the same sex they are. This is a deep human need. THIS is why LGBTQ+ members are leaving the faith. It makes me so sad, and I don't have any answers, except that I know our Heavenly Father has it all figured out.

K. Chin, Modesto, CASeptember 15, 2021

I’ve often thought, why must one’s sexuality be the core component of one’s life, here, in Mortality? (I know of no doctrine that teaches our “sexuality” is THE MOST important component of what makes us mortal—and by “sexuality” I mean our individual preferences and “likes” in what, when, where, why, and how we choose to enjoy, express, and share ourselves sexually.) Could it be that in placing our sexuality BEFORE every other component of “who” we are…we “may” have inadvertently allowed Satan’s carefully laid plans (promoted over the earth’s millennia—and even before our pre-mortal existence) to have lead us to accomplish his selfish desire? Satan—through his agency—has removed himself from our Heavenly Parents’ love. We are taught, his ONLY desire is to make us, each, as miserable as he is. In manipulating us to make our “sexuality” so important, Satan has gotten us to turn our focus from the purpose of the Plan of Salvation, from its divine source, and our core identity…into bitter, painful contention and divisiveness about “how” we use our divine agency to express ourselves sexually. Here’s a news flash…sex is NOT the most important thing! Satan has redirected humankind’s energy, attention, focus…away from LOVE and gotten humankind to become obsessed with the who, what, when, where, why, and how of “sex.” We are spiritual and mortal beings capable of divine, infinite, and Christlike LOVE! Does not this thought—and knowledge—fill one with hope?! (I’ll leave it to the reader of my comments to substitute the word “sex” for LOVE. I find that doing so minimizes the divine purpose of The Plan of Salvation, our Savior’s Atonement, and our Father in Heaven’s infinite regard for each of His children.)

Penelope A. JonesSeptember 15, 2021

Wonderful insightful discussion on this so very current topic! Thank You Brother Mckenna. Of course this is all fulfilling so many prophecies about the latter days and so much "turmoil" and confusion. And I don't think you have glossed over anything but the previous comment seems rather myopic in that there are so many that make temple covenants and are not sealed to a spouse in this life. Or many who have been sealed only to have a spouse unworthy to go. And then there are our wonderful Sisters and Brothers that DON'T "Come- Out" and lead productive lives serving in the Church because as this article points out it not their most important identity. It's really pretty basic: the Lord put Adam and Eve and all of us their "off-spring" here to "multipy and replenish" and provide bodies for the Spirits he created and anything that attempts to thwart that plan is of Satan. So he is really happy at all those big marches and rallies especially the ones in UT. and at BYU. Just sayin" "the signs of the times".

AngNSeptember 15, 2021

This is a wonderful article! Thank you!

Valiant JonesSeptember 15, 2021

"People do have a choice in the matter— not in terms of their immediate feelings sexually … but in the story they adopt about what those feelings mean." I believe that within that concept there could be a path for some people with SSA to experience some degree of moderation of their attractions and find fulfilment in a mixed gender marriage. At least that appears to be what some members of NorthStar seem to have achieved. I would love to read more about that.

Boanerges RubalcavaSeptember 15, 2021

Beautiful article. This is what we are, and we love to be that way. Thanks.

MelSeptember 15, 2021

It's likely the many of tbe neighbors who you miss so much are still in your neighborhood. People who are no longer members don't fall of the face of the earth. If you miss them so much why not just spend time with them?

stevie mckennaSeptember 15, 2021

I understand what you are trying to focus on however, you have glossed over something important that isn't easy to acknowledge. A man who has no sexual attraction to women is not going to want to marry a women whether they could or could not do so in the temple under covenant. The same is true of a women who is not attracted physically to men. I don't believe the church policy encourages you to do that regardless just so you can be married in the temple. I believe the reason most gay and lesbian people leave the church is because they want an intimate serious relationship with someone of the same sex. The church does not condone this. That is the bottom line which you are not addressing no matter how you sugar coat the rest. Knowing you are a child of Heavenly Parent is great but that doesn't mean you can have the temple marriage to a same sex partner. Some people may marry opposite sexed partners but I doubt that they are gay, probably bi-sexual and that is more anecdotal evidence that it may work sometimes.

ScottSeptember 14, 2021

Profoundly beautiful; both your article and the doctrine of Heavenly Parents

Linda WSeptember 14, 2021

Very well thought out and expressed. I gratefully shared it with a dear member. Thank you for taking the time to write this!!!

DougieSeptember 14, 2021

Excellent article! Generations unborn will hang in the balance based on this decision.

PennieSeptember 14, 2021

I wish I could be so articulate. Amen to everything

Mark DonaldsonSeptember 14, 2021

Great article! I am going to save this as a favorite in my browser. I will share it when I come across those who may be questioning their faith and thinking of checking out...forever! Thanks!

MikeSeptember 14, 2021

This is a great article! I love the comparison you made to the early Saints leaving and returning to what we are experiencing now. Returning is very possible! We all must remain vigilant to weather the storm and as we do can help others come back into the fold

ScottSeptember 14, 2021

Thank you for a wonderful article. Helped me understand some of my fears/doubts about the church.

Lisa Simonsen PowellSeptember 14, 2021

This is so awesome. We don't get away with breaking the commandments no matter who we are or what our decisions look like. Thank you!

Sarah HinzeSeptember 12, 2021

These are wonderful inspiring stories. Thanks so much for sharing. Love Sarah Hinze

KwestSeptember 12, 2021

Love it, beautifully stated. Thank you for taking the time to write this article.

FrancesSeptember 12, 2021

I'm wondering if her other children could become involved in the children's lives and relieve this good woman of their everyday care so she can concentrate on her terminally ill husband and herself to some degree. At her pace, she may wear out physically as well. Where would they be then?

Corey D.September 12, 2021

Thanks for publishing that article, she says in such an eloquently spiritual way what is in my mind and heart but that I am unable to express in a coherent and concise manner and I'm sure others feel the same.

Victor LundquistSeptember 12, 2021

Thank you for the in-depth reasoning of what it means, as a teacher, to follow the teachings and example of Jesus Christ. Hopefully all of your colleagues at Church sponsored teaching entities will see the wisdom of this piece and understand what Elder Holland meant about pride flags being decisive. Thank you for writing and posting this.

Ornella Maria BrennaSeptember 11, 2021

Thank you for your clear and decisive exposition of what is right and what is not. The Lord loves us as we are, but lovingly urges us to be better than what we are, possibly "the best", that is, daughters aware of his love for him and eager to be as he is. As well reported in Helaman 12: 27 He shows us our weaknesses so that we can be humble, and if we are humble and have faith in Him, our weaknesses are transformed into strengths for us. Whatever our weaknesses are.

Randal AllredSeptember 11, 2021

I think Dr. Peterson hit the nail on the head. His comments on what certain advocacy groups have said would indicate that perhaps a lot of Elder Holland's critics inside the Church have taken their ideas and rhetoric from these outside groups, rather than their own reading, sense of fairness, and seeking the Spirit and revelation to know the import of Holland's remarks. Elder Holland is not the enemy of gay Latter-day Saints. And he is the last person among the Brethren to use words carelessly, as some of my dear friends and former students have asserted.

SimplicioSeptember 10, 2021

"Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. "Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. "Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you." -Matt 5:10-12

Newell HarwardSeptember 9, 2021

Beautifully stated. Great article.

ShaunaSeptember 9, 2021

Fantastic--thank you so much for taking time to articulate some complicated, but well reasoned, pointed but loving thoughts. I would love to be in your class and would love to have my 2 BYU college students sit in with you as well Satan is the master of false dichotomies, false premises and therefore false arguments. Thank you for taking aim at some of those swirling around the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the LGBT community. as you say, it should go without saying, but as Elder Holland pointed out, hasn't always, that if one is a disciple of Christ then one loves everyone--not necessarily their behavior, standards, opinions (including mine) etc, but loves each person as a Child of God. That premise should lead to true "safety" and light

Ann StruthersSeptember 9, 2021

This was a wonderful, well written article. I loved it and pray that we may all follow these principles and ideas. Thank you for using your teaching skills in the Lord's way.

ShaneSeptember 9, 2021

Absolutely beautifully said! These are the feelings of my heart! As a previous Bishop in my ward, these are the feelings I felt and I hope every member knew. That they were safe and I was there to love them and teach them. I still feel that way towards all I come in contact with. It hurts me when I am accused of being something I am not, yet I am not offended but grateful for a loving Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ. If we pray to see others as they do, we will be so much the better for it. Thank you for this and for this Teachers great courage and faith!

Haze K.September 9, 2021

Love this article. The ideas of "you are safe" vs I will teach and push you intellectually are great. As a Latter-day Saint with several gay co-workers that I care about, the explanation about displaying the pride flag or not is perfect. To me, the pride flag is very divisive. If I don't display it, I must be someone who hates LGBT+ people. This is not true. I can love people without agreeing with their choices. I can be a conservative politically with liberal friends. I can be friends with exercise fanatics, but prefer a good book and snacks for myself. Thanks for putting into words some of my feelings.

Harold RustSeptember 9, 2021

Well written. As I pass by numerous "I Believe" banners along my street every day I find myself asking the question: Why is it that my neighbors feel the need to post a sign stating to the world that in their eyes they are a good person? Is that what it takes to prove you are a good person--a sign stating that? I like all my neighbors (well, one of them has treated me quite rudely---but he is not one posting a sign anyway) but I've never felt it would help them realize that by my putting up a sign to say, "I like each of you neighbors". The only genuine way to do that is to rake up leaves along our street well beyond my own front yard or take over a treat when I learn one has just moved in or helping fix a front gate. Do that enough and no sign is ever needed; do that never and no sign is sufficient to genuinely convince them you really do like them.

Duane BoyceSeptember 9, 2021

Very well said. It's the kind of statement every CES faculty member should be able to make. I devoutly hope they can.

Barry H.September 9, 2021

Excellent article. Well said; both courageous and kind at the same time.

Eunice RobertsonSeptember 9, 2021

Happy birthday President Nelson. May it be a day filled with happiness and precious memories.

James RawsonSeptember 8, 2021

Always well reviewed and understood with your obvious clarifications of what was truly said by elder Holland! Thank you Dan! Jim Rawson

ScottHSeptember 8, 2021

Elder Holland's talk is about 40 minutes long, so it requires commitment to read or watch. Like Dr. Peterson, I encourage everyone to watch the talk with a sincere heart. Having done so myself, I believe that it is impossible to come away from that beautiful and edifying experience with the worldly conclusion that Elder Holland spoke out of anything other than love. Many who have twisted this apostle's loving words have based their well-intentioned indignation on out-of-context sound bites. We must be careful not to "take the advantage of one because of his words" or to dig a pit for our neighbor (2 Nephi 28:8). It is sad that some who have unfortunately been on the receiving end of such treatment have unleashed such vile treatment on others.

LexaGraemeSeptember 8, 2021

Bravo. I will add my Amen to this. In college, I was a customer service rep for a high-end ceiling fan company. I could receive up to 100 calls a day. On one particular call, I went absolutely above and beyond what I was authorized to do, and was still cursed at. My supervisor said, "I don't think we need him as a customer." I appreciated her standing up for me, and have tried in the years since to not ever be *that* customer.

ShaunaSeptember 8, 2021

I encourage all to actually listen to Elder Holland's talk--he is incredibly passionate and emotional, about everything he says and I don't think anyone could actually misunderstand his love for both BYU and LGBT individuals, after listening to it....unless they want to Personally, I loved it and welcomed his clarion call for BYU,faculty, staff, and administration, the intended audience, to completely align themselves with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. they can get secular ideas at almost any other university, but at BYU, those ideas should be viewed through a gospel lens. As a BYU alumnus and the parent of 2 current students, I vigorously endorse and applaud Elder Holland's direction and am so grateful for his deep love for BYU. It is a gift to all who attend

GregSeptember 8, 2021

I love Elder Holland, he has always been my favorite, and I knew the intent of his heart when he gave this talk. People who are making it into something it is not are simply wrong. However, the metaphor of a musket probably should not have been used. A sword or spear would have been much better because of the political overtones associated with guns. The church and its members tend to be viewed as Republicans/Conservatives, clearly the majority are. But there are plenty of LDS people who feel strongly about the volatility of guns, not to say "anti-gun", but that there should be much more control and regulation for safety sake. So if you even speak out on safety as it relates to gun rights, you are labeled a communist, you are pro-abortion, you are advocate the LGBTQ lifestyle, etc. So because of the use of the musket metaphor, Elder Holland's words came across as more pro-Republican, which among many other innuendos takes a very anti-LGBTQ stand. I had always considered myself a Republican but with the rising of Trump, I can't even say that I recognize what a Republican is any more. I know that I am not what he espouses, and have been told that I am therefore a Democrat. Initially I argued this, but I find that I identify with Democrats way more than the Republican of today so I suppose it is true. I did not take Elder's Hollands to suggest that he is pro-Trump or pro-Republican, but I know many people will and that is especially embarrassing to me, to think that my faith is being likened to that school of thought. I personally am struggling with being a member of a church that appears to be affiliated with that party. Regarding the person's ideas that you heartily agree with, they claim to be pro-family suggesting that LGBTQ people can't have a family, which is kind of short-sighted, because they can and do. It may not be the traditional family that we identify with, but we have been taught that our BYU family home evening groups are family, so I struggle with the notion that a family is just a father, mother and children. I think the key is that we have to avoid even the appearance of hate, in any form, and embrace charity at all cost. I think Elder Holland is the embodiment of charity, at least in the mortal realm that we live in.

Harold RustSeptember 8, 2021

As always, your words are carefully chosen to reflect calm, reassuring reflections on reality through a spiritual perspective. I find it amazingly humbling for all of us in these "modern" times that distortions and convoluted perceptions can promulgate so quickly and deeply; definitely faster than they did among the uneducated centuries ago and more deeply than one could have ever expected among well educated folks who have the benefit of centuries of learned experiences by mankind plus the digital age of communication/distribution that should enable everyone to see for themselves what was true---and not be hood-winked by someone else telling you what they claim was said. Just read or listen to Elder Holland's talk and you will be able to see for yourself it was about love, respect, and....defending truth by means of love and respect.

Mark DonaldsonSeptember 8, 2021

Elder Holland is spot on! We love the we the imperfect hope to be loved. But our God is the lawgiver...not us. Elder Holland said it perfectly when he said, "As near as I can tell, Christ never once withheld His love from anyone, but He also never once said to anyone, “Because I love you, you are exempt from keeping my commandments.” We are tasked with trying to strike that same sensitive, demanding balance in our lives.” Amen!

HalSeptember 8, 2021

Good article! There are other reasons to "fire" a customer. Some are flat out dishonest and constantly try to get something for nothing. We don't need or want customers that intentionally try to rob us.

CBSeptember 8, 2021

Excellent excellent Bro Peterson! Thank You for saying it so well!!

Kit G.September 8, 2021

Well said, and appreciated! Standing for principles of the true gospel of Jesus Christ will continue to be more polarizing, even within the Church as members try to have one hand on the rod and the other opening the door to the great and spacious building. Elder Holland did a wonderful job articulating his points, as did you.

Loretta SmithSeptember 8, 2021

Such a well written and thoughtful article! Thank you!

Kevin KrauseSeptember 8, 2021

Thank you for these heartfelt words. You really helped me understand much more about what Elder Holland was trying to convey. And more importantly thank you for your parting words. Stop the polarization from both sides. I can't stand it. Where did love and understanding go? Civility has truly become a lost virtue.

Claudia Henderson SmithSeptember 8, 2021

What a great article! It’s so well said. It’s hard for some of us who have a child with this challenge. I, too, am not anti-gay. I’m pro family and pro the Church.

John C. GreeneSeptember 8, 2021

I have often thought that if we Latter-day Saints aspire to the First Resurrection - which is also referred to as the Resurrection of the Just - then perhaps we had better be just ourselves. If we fail to be truly just, how can we aspire to the Resurrection of the Just? Twisting the truth - as Laman and Lemuel did, for example - is not just. Twisting Elder Holland's words is also unjust. Brother Peterson's analysis and defense of Elder Holland's words is both truthful and just.

Noel JensenSeptember 8, 2021

Amen, Br. Peterson, I appreciate this response to Elder Holland's remarks.

EHSeptember 8, 2021

Thank you for your thoughts and intent. I came across a broad spectrum of responses to this talk among my personal connections, and I knew I lacked context, but even after reading the talk a couple of times, I decided to just put it on a shelf for a couple weeks. I think his words as written lacked a tone of compassion, and since most people read the talk without hearing his voice, it's easy to misunderstand. People who are very concerned about how the Church responds to their LGBTQ+ members are more likely to find concerning statements, whether or not that was Elder Holland's intent. I think a reference to weapons of any kind right now might be alarming since weapons signify violence rather than defense for many people. So I appreciate your insights. I think I found an appropriate place in my brain to file this talk:)

LouiseSeptember 7, 2021

great example how we can be helped from the other side of the vail. She didn't pray for the help of this lady but just asked if possible to help.

Debbi M.September 7, 2021

I loved this story, and had no idea about her background. Sure loved watching her films in the "olden days!" Thanks for sharing and informing.

David HallSeptember 7, 2021

In Pres. Nelson's biography it mentions that when he visited Mongolia, he learned that there is also a tradition there that Christ visited a people there, too, after his resurrection.

Richard ChristensenSeptember 7, 2021

She is my dad's second cousin if I remember right.

Robert StarlingSeptember 7, 2021

Correction (my mistake): It was the Westwood Ward that Rhonda tried to contact about her husband's funeral arrangements, not the Wilshire Ward. I've wondered how her later life might have been different if the ward building's landline had been forwarded on weekdays to the home number of the Bishop or some other member. (a suggestion to Church HQ?) However the Wilshire Ward has its own "Hollywood Connection". In the 1940's several LDS celebrities including Laraine Day and the King Sisters formed a theater group called "The Wilshire Ward Players" that performed plays at the ward meetinghouse (built in the 1930's, with unique architecture that resembles a cathedral). A non-LDS member of that group was the young Ray Bradbury.

Helga SilskiSeptember 7, 2021

Oh come on dear brother David, have you truly listened and read all of the Conference talks? There have been countless messages from our beloved leaders encouraging us, reminding us that no one has reached perfection yet. Repentance is real, necessary and even beautiful, it is part of earth life but each of us, all of us are given the opportunity to climb up and out of the hole to reach the summit.

DianeSeptember 7, 2021

BYU has world class art restoration which allowed the Carl Bloch collection to be brought to Utah for restoration and the opportunity for many to witness their greatness. What about the Church getting involved with the restoration of the "Holy Russia" so it could be brought over here for more Americans and members of the Church to see. I have thought about this painting so much since it was brought to my attention a few years ago through Meridian. What a fantastic opportunity to cruise through Russia and view this inspired piece of art! Bucket list!

Rochelle HaleSeptember 6, 2021

Wow! What a story. We are so familiar with those landmarks as we have several clients in the Century City area and serve in the Los Angeles LDS temple. When my father was dying, my mother (non-member) was totally on board with having the local ward assist, even though my stepfather had not attended church in many years. It was our relatives of other faiths who refused to attend the funeral if it was held at the "Mormon" church. The bishop, however, was more than helpful and told us that funerals take priority over weddings or ward activities. It is too bad that the Wilshire Ward wasn't more accomodating to Sister Fleming's needs.

David BellSeptember 6, 2021

Wonderful story about a beautiful daughter of God. It goes to show that what is important is what is going on between us and Heavenly Father. Even good can come out of Hollywood!

Tora Sue KniselySeptember 5, 2021

Please accept my condolences in the passing of your Husband and father. I am sure he is busy on the other side of the veil.

Valiant JonesSeptember 5, 2021

This is one of the best temple prep resources I have seen. Thank you for creating it. As a branch president, I will be using it to prepare members for the temple.

Corey D.September 5, 2021

I just retired after 40+ years with one of the countries/worlds largest defense contractors. About a year ago my co-worker was on the computer checking his email when he said come look at this. It was a Corporate memo which said and I'm paraphrasing a little but in essence it said "we will no longer be hiring from BYU because their stance on LGBTQ issues does not fit in with our company values". A week or so later we tried to find the memo but it had been deleted from the archive. Interestingly about that same time period one of the new VP's at our division was a BYU graduate, whether that had anything to do with the memo quietly going away I don't know. There have been plenty of reasons given for why the Boy Scouts was dropped by the church and others but the truth of the matter is the Boy Scouts was killed by corporate America. Corporate America has shifted from being generally family oriented and supporting conservative values to being quite liberal, especially Big Tech and they are getting more politically involved. Too me that is one of the greatest threats if not the biggest threat in the country right now because when you have control over jobs and peoples livelihoods you hold the ultimate influence and power.

Corey D.September 5, 2021

Well written and heartfully expressed. I personally have very strong, and for lack of a better description, very conservative views on the whole LGBTQ+ thing. Personally I believe there is a small, very small percentage that may have some actual biological, chemical, mental reason for their leanings/choices but for the most part it is social conditioning and the influence of Satan who is the master psychologist and deceiver. But, I try to treat everyone including LGBTQ family members and others with courtesy, respect and love.

Richard D. HanksSeptember 4, 2021

Thank you. I too love Elder Holland and support him.

E PooleSeptember 4, 2021

Thank you for your well thought out account of your journey. It does not sound like it was an easy one, but your willingness to persevere and endure until you found answers is very inspiring. Thank you for your wonderful example and testimony.

Ben JonesSeptember 3, 2021

The thing I found interesting when I joined this Church is that it didn't make me feel bad about all the wonderful experiences I had with people of other faiths. In fact, I gained my testimony of Jesus Christ while attending the Episcopal Church. One of the sweetest experiences I had after joining was that my mother who was a lifelong Christian felt the spirit in our services.

Allison DunlapSeptember 3, 2021

This was completely mind blowing! I was awestruck as I began connecting the dots Brother Frogley illustrated so well! Thank you for this enlightenment! It has changed my paradigm.

Fay KlinglerSeptember 3, 2021

I say amen to the conclusion of this article. Well done.

vandmeliSeptember 3, 2021

Thank you for the reminder that we and our children are fighting for our spiritual lives every day. I feel a renewed commitment to adequately arm them by teaching and by example. And though the enemy is real, fear not, for the Lord is on our side!

Nihla W. JuddSeptember 2, 2021

Positively Perfect. Thank you very much. Service is a real healer.

David DurfeeSeptember 2, 2021

I agree entirely. The problem is that so many of the Scriptures, so many Conference talks, intentionally or unintentionally drill relentlessly into us how imperfect we are. When was the last time you heard a speaker in Conference say "hang in there and keep plugging along and you'll get to the Celestial Kingdom"?

T LarsenSeptember 2, 2021

Thank you for this beautiful account of part of your faith journey. As someone whose personal concerns over this issue have been mild by comparison, it is helpful to be reminded that Church member don't just fall into "support the Church's teachings" and "don't support the Church's teachings". There is a lot of room on the spectrum between those positions, and it is the direction our faith is pointing us that matters the most.

Ovala F ToiaivaoSeptember 2, 2021

Wow, what a beautiful testimony of faith! Thank your for sharing this powerful account of your personal experiences wrestling with this heart wrenching topic as a new convert. This very issue is one of the main reason why our family has broken apart as 7 of our 8 children have literally left the church over it. Thanks again for sharing!

vickieSeptember 1, 2021

I am a mother of 5 kids, one girl and four boys. my last child is now a homosexual married to his best friend or another man. i never suspected i would have a child who had this kind of issue. we always think its other people that go through these things. i love all my children. this young man was a good kid, he always did the right thing, and he was great in school and went to college and went on a misison. his brothers and sister noticed things before i ever suspected anything. when he was a little guy he would put a towel on his head and pretend it was long hair. he wanted to immitate his sister. he was very aloof and as he grew older he became a sort of angry young guy. he was gifted with voice and playing the piano and acting. he came out later when he was about 34 and let me know he was engaged. i went to his wedding. i love my son and will always support him. i believe in what the prophets say and the family proclemation. when i first heard my son was gay i nearly went nuts. it was my husband who kept his head and said i love him and he is my son. that woke me up. i reaized thorugh my crying and grief i loved my son so much and the pain i felt was that of worry over what would happen to him. we do read about how others see them and sometimes torture them or they commit suicide. i never spoke to him regarding it but i might send this article to him because being a pc mother here on earth means never confronting him or letting him know what i think about it and that i love him. his mater is a great guy as well. he made his choice and i have no idea as to what to do. he will be or is 36 now. he never contacts me but he was always kind of like that anyway. aloof. i actually dont know what to do. i think he knows what he is doing and what it means. i also wonder if he knows what to do about it or which way to go. he has commited himself to another person. that person i dont think has any belief. my son had a wonderful patriarchal blessing wherein it said that the Lord would have His hand on my sons head. so, now i am praying and wondering. i think his teen anger was over how his brothers would joke abt LGBT issues and people and felt we all felt that way, and we probably did. you dont know what to feel until it is standing on your doorstep. all i know is that i love the Lord and will continue to pray fo rmy son and his mate. i know that there are many moms and dads like me.

LauraSeptember 1, 2021

What a beautiful expression of faith! Your journey shows what it looks like to strive to align our views with God's -- and it takes humility. I hope that those struggling with the same (and other) issues can similarly cling fast to their testimonies as they pray to change their own understanding, not the Lord's.

Randall M SmithSeptember 1, 2021

This is so well written, applicable to every controversial doctrine in the Church. A must read for everyone.

Gordon J HensleySeptember 1, 2021

Even though I don’t have a perfect knowledge of the way things work in the worlds beyond the veil, I can’t help but think that the laws of physics will still apply. Eternal families are created the same way they are here on Earth, with a man and a woman providing a physical body for a spirit child. In an eternal world where there is no war, death, adultery, broken marriages, or poverty, and therefore no orphaned children, where would a functionally sterile celestial couple go to find children to “adopt” into a celestial family? There will undoubtedly be many good people participating in long term friendships and relationships in the lesser kingdoms, but unless you follow the commandments and complete the ordinances that “unlock the bonus level” of the Celestial Kingdom, you won’t be able to enjoy the full work and glory of eternal life.

JosephSeptember 1, 2021

Thank you Daniel for such detailed and very well written account on your efforts and patience during your personal search for the truth on this polemic issue. May The Lord continue blessing your life with the kind of light you deserve to keep your faith healthy and strong.

Jo Ann OkelberrySeptember 1, 2021

I am so grateful that you have taken the time to write this beautiful article. You have given us a great lesson on how to deal with things that disappoint or anger us. I am so glad that we have our Heavenly Father who welcomes us and our prayers and gives us peace.

MakeliSeptember 1, 2021

Thank you for this thoughtful and vunerable account of your conversion. What a beautiful sentiment to choose humility first. I can tell you're a good guy. Thank you.

Pat StreeperSeptember 1, 2021

Thank you for your beautiful testimony!

SaraSeptember 1, 2021

I don’t think you give yourself enough credit for the effort you put forth to come to the conclusion that you have. You were humble enough to realize that your views may not be correct, even though you held them close. You did exactly as we are counseled to do both in scripture and by Church leaders, and that is the most inspiring part of this whole story to me. Thank you for sharing it.

Ruth JamiesonSeptember 1, 2021

Your story is a wonderful journey of faith and perseverance. Thank you for your example of hope.

Sasha KwapinskiSeptember 1, 2021

As one who was personally involved in California's Proposition 8 campaign (and contributed some of the money behind it) I welcome and support the church leaders' efforts to be inclusive, loving, and supportive toward LGBT members as children of God. I try to practice these principles in my own behavior and relationships. At the same time, I appreciate being a member of a denomination which recognizes the distinction between love and relativism. Marriage is ultimately a moral construct with a moral definition, or it essentially becomes a non-construct with no definition -- just a matter of random lifestyle choices or the latest public opinion poll.

Bob TaylorSeptember 1, 2021

thank you for sharing your story. i tried to pm you, but the link was not working for me - a question, if you don't mind sharing. many years ago, i had a classmate in elementary school whose name was Jim Ortner (La Jolla, CA) - any relation?

EveSeptember 1, 2021

I'm so impressed with your story. We all struggle with pride, but you were able to stay humble and open to revelation. What a wonderful example! Thank you!

Dennis HorneSeptember 1, 2021

Sometimes the Lord has to (figuratively) pull people kicking and screaming out of the philosophies of the world/society, into the light of the gospel and the scriptures/teachings of prophets. Anyone imbued with modern societies views could have various amounts of trouble making the transition. It used to be that the world and the church weren't that far off in many things, including morality. Now that is no longer the case at all. There is a divide people must cross to become fully converted and fully sustain the Brethren.

PamSeptember 1, 2021

Thank you for sharing your experiences. I hope they help others who are struggling.

Rochelle HaleSeptember 1, 2021

Thank you for sharing your journey and testimony. The problem with the worldview is that it wants to contradict God. Rather than being hateful or less tolerant, Latter-Day Saints should even more greatly express love to those whom we know to be our spiritual brothers and sisters. We all chose the plan to be here. Nevertheless, the Lord has given his counsel. A friend of another faith once questioned me about the Word of Wisdom. Her response was, "Why would God care what we eat, etc.?" As a loving Heavenly Father, why would he not???!!!! We do not worship a vengeful God, but one who loves us more than we can possibly know and wants to bless all of His children.

K RoundySeptember 1, 2021

I love this. I agree that "we are NOT on the wrong side of history, because we are on the Lord's side"; and He cannot be coerced, threatened, or convinced to change his mind on the matter.

PennieSeptember 1, 2021

I fully support Elder Holland. If the apostles and prophets bend to social pressure, we will be lost. I feel very secure knowing that they will stand up to the secular teachings of our day. Each member of this church is going to have to decide where they stand and with whom they stand. I stand with the First Presidency and the Twelve. God never gave a commandment that was not for our eternal benefit. I believe firmly that there is no gayness in eternity. It's a mortal challenge

AnonymousSeptember 1, 2021

Daniel, thank you for this beautiful account. I appreciate your testimony and your personal experiences that have doubtlessly prepared you to write about this topic.

Chuck DeWittSeptember 1, 2021

I am so grateful that I was willing to question my presumptions, pray to God in faith, wrestle with my concern, and ultimately be transformed by the spirit. This sentence shows the way to truth. Love your story and never forgetting the original testimony from Heaven.

Duane BoyceSeptember 1, 2021

Excellent. Thank you for sharing your experience. Wonderful in every way.

MistySeptember 1, 2021

Thank you for sharing your experience of wrestling with questions and doubts about some of the Church’s teachings. I don’t think there are enough stories out there like this and so many are left with the misconception that everyone is fine with everything or perhaps everyone is just a blind sheep. I hope more stories like this will help others realize it’s ok (as the Brethren have continually taught) to have questions and concerns! But as Brother Holland has also taught, “doubt your doubts” before doubting your testimony.

Harold RustSeptember 1, 2021

Thanks for this personal journey you were willing to share. For some of us who have been members all our lives, the Family Proclamation seemed so obvious we weren't sure why the Church leadership had felt the need to have it published and highlighted. Little did we realize that within just a decade there would be a significant numbers of Americans (and others outside the U.S.) who would push against the fundamentals and then gradually become very dogmatic in their rejection of what had been a "non-issue" for several centuries. To me the proclamation was a statement of love and positive confirmation about the purpose of life. Just as we are taught to be "Christ-like" toward those not members of the Church, likewise the Church's message has always been to be respective and loving toward those who may not believe as we do or want to live according to the declarations in the Family Proclamation. That becomes more difficult when those "on the other side" become very public in their accusations and very violently vocal in their attacks on our beliefs. Thus, I feel those who don't agree with Elder Holland should at least follow his approach in how to disagree....through thoughtful and non-contentious discussion meant to share deeply-held feelings in a kind and loving way.

Annie JensenSeptember 1, 2021

Thank you for your thoughtful remarks and for sharing your persistent search for truth.

Jane HalesAugust 31, 2021

As always your program is an educational delight!! I loved the story of the Kirtland Temple. Thank you for adding so much to my gospel and church history knowledge these past years. You are truly a blessing our lives!

Ron SnyderAugust 31, 2021

I had no preparation or warning about what to expect at the temple. My first time was the week I entered the mission home in SLC. It was traumatic for me, and quite shocking. I had spent my life believing up to that point that the Catholics were into rituals but we were not. I wish someone had offered me a resource like this so I could have been better prepared for the experience.

SherryAugust 31, 2021

The Pocatello Temple open house is fast approaching also, from Saturday, 18 September 2021 to Saturday, 23 October 2021. The dedication is set for Sunday, 7 November 2021. I can't wait!

Wendi EricksonAugust 31, 2021

This is a time of separation. It's a tragedy to those of us who have lost loved ones to this or any other reason they find to leave. Our heart aches when our grown children refuse to even come on mothers day. Our ward has recently seen a wave of our brothers and sisters leave our ward family. Thankyou for writing this. Perhaps it will be just what someone needs to hear. The Lord has promised me that in His time and His way all 4 of them will return. I pray for them and others who left. The fact remains that there are 2 churches only. All will find themselves aligning with one or the other. The scriptures are clear about this. As we settle into 2 apposite camps, I feel that there will be a lot of shuffling back and forth for many of us. I pleas with you all to join me in prayer for 1 ourselves to not be caught by surprise. For us to have the faith sufficient to be firmly planted in the restored gospel and 2 for those who have turned away for any reason to have whatever experiences they must in order to find their way back to the fold of God. This is His promise to our loved ones as we are true and faithful to our covenants. 3 lastly pray to see Hos hand in their lives so we see that they are not really lost to heavenly Father. And in closing the undying gratitude for the pure love that is the atonement of Jesus Christ.

Jan KuesterAugust 31, 2021

I loved this video and am so grateful for it. I grew up determined to become closer and closer to our Father and our Savior- and to become a veterinarian. God had a better plan. Through circumstances, fasting and prayer, instead of a vet I became both a registered nurse and a Navy Nurse Corps officer. I am so blessed to have had the opportunities this gave me to grow in faith, see more deeply into the lives and needs of my fellow man, and to, imperfectly so, serve the one as our Savior does. This video reminds me to focus less on myself and more on what others might need. Thank you❤️

Jonathan StreeterAugust 30, 2021

This was an excellent article that really got to the heart of the matter. The best part of your article is that it has universal application. It should be distributed to defenders of many different faiths - Jehovahs witnesses, Christian Science and Many other faiths also have apostates who try to tear down faith by creating a big lie that their church is deceiving them. This post reveals the true deception at the heart of these deceivers. Thank you for your eloquence and faithfulness!

BeccaAugust 30, 2021

Great article. One common thing I see as people buy into the negative things they are being taught is that they eventually end up where they no longer believe in God. Seems like this attack on the Church is simply using church history as a stepping stone to draw people away from God. And the influencers are making a lot of money doing what they are doing.

CBAugust 30, 2021

Fortunately, and I consider it a miracle, even though I had no preparation ( other than some negative comments from my parents doubting my worthiness) I had deep in my heart that whatever the endowment was all about it was from God, and it was His way of teaching. From the moment I stepped into Initiatory I was inspired in ways that I remember to this day. I’ve been a faithful Temple worshipper and worker ever since and when I’m in the Temple I don’t overthink— I just let myself feel His love. This is a good article and video. I don’t know if I wish I’d had it 50 years ago or not. Everyone is different. I’ve taught temple prep classes and I do think this would have been helpful. Still, the most important thing in preparation is love for the Lord and trusting in Him.

HalAugust 30, 2021

Thank you for this wonderful article. I have several friends and family members who have succumbed to this "Biggist Lie." Sadly, I have watched them transition from faith-filled, happy people to cynical, perpetually angry, and contentious souls where the darkness of hopelessness has replaced the light that once filled them with happiness. All I can do is pray for them and encourage them whenever I can.

Alan FlemingAugust 30, 2021

If the church was a business I would have resigned a long time ago, but it is not a business but the Church of Jesus Christ. In the early days of the Church all the apostles were converts, none of them were raised in the Church. Six of the original Twelve Apostles selected were excommunicated. Even the Three Witnesses to the Book of Mormon left the Church. Three of Joseph Smith’s counselors fell — one even helped plot his death. However, all the Presidents of the Church since Joseph Smith have served in the Quorum of the Twelve before they are called to be the Church President. They are well qualified having been trained and tested beforehand

Gary GarnerAugust 30, 2021

It's amazing to me that we have a prophet and we talk about following the prophet but then either don't or feel that we need to fact check him.. We fast and pray for a vaccine and then when we are blessed with it in record time (a miracle) we feel that it may be ok for you but not for me. I think that there are lessons that can be drawn from the Parable of the 10 Virgins here.

Maryann TaylorAugust 30, 2021

No one leaves the church because of any events in church history. That is simply an excuse. People leave because they have not built a strong testimony. Anyone who keeps their testimony alive by continuous prayer, scripture study, and enjoying the companionship of the Holy Ghost will not be bothered by incomplete and subjective accounts. I would trust that about as much as I trust news reporters and commentators today. How many contradictory "facts" do we hear about the same story??? Attempting to render a complete judgement of people by going back into history, whether it is the history of the church, or American history, is tricky business. I would certainly hate to have my life judged by people 100+ years from now based only on what they can dig up from the written word. We can read the MANY accounts from faithful saints who knew the Prophet, Joseph Smith, very well and who walked and talked with him, who repeatedly bore witness of his goodness, and the divinity of his calling--Or we can rely on varied and confused accounts, based on partial and limited understanding of what actually happened. We may find ourselves with some unanswered questions. So what? We can KNOW that the Book of Mormon is true, that it is a sacred witness of Jesus Christ, and that Joseph Smith translated it by the gift and power of God. If we know that, nothing else really matters.

LizAugust 30, 2021

Thank you for this very well written article and for standing up in ways many won’t.

Dennis HorneAugust 30, 2021

These are certainly very fine and uplifting faith-affirming experiences shared. However, I caution that while the author is right that the temple is a place of precious personal revelation, it is not the only place, nor a place of "higher" revelation. While I have also enjoyed the powerful flow of revelation in the temple, the two most spiritual experiences of my life took place in a missionary apartment and in a chapel. Others in a bedroom, living room, etc. Revelation can be received most anywhere needed if the member with the gift of the Holy Ghost is worthy and exercises faith and is not in a bad/wicked place. Mountain tops and groves have substituted for temples when none were available. Still, thanks for a nice article with edifying content.

Tom GlassAugust 30, 2021

We have a past bishop doing the same on his podcast,his feelings were hurt so he went on a rampage against the Church.Pride took him away,with his whole family!

Zen FeatherstoneAugust 30, 2021

The great tragedy I have seen with my family is children who have no faith or hope because they left The Church of Jesus Christ and don't have any place to go. If the truth about God and Jesus Christ is not in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, then it is nowhere. They have an understanding of the apostacy and the need for a restoration. If the truth was not restored, then they feel it is nowhere. So they are "free" to do whatever they think is right. The laws and commandments of God that make us truly free and happy when we live them, are ignored and the true peace that comes to our souls cannot be found in worldly interpretation of the rules of life.

EveAugust 30, 2021

I found this to be very touching.

Wendy LanderAugust 30, 2021

This is a wonderful resource. Thank you so much!

Deb H.August 30, 2021

The whole problem with all of this is you have two choices, take the shot or don't. Once you make the choice, you are labeled by people who have no idea what you are going through.

Norma J EntrekinAugust 30, 2021

Interesting article. But the main point should have been stated clearly in the first paragraph. Period- Thanks

Douglas MarkAugust 30, 2021

Jacob: just ask these disaffected friends what they will say to Nephi or Mormon when they meet them after death. Ask them if you can keep their patriarchal blessing and their temple garments and their scriptures in a safe place for them while they wander in the desert for awhile. Ask which of their kids they want “unsealed” while they are at it, or maybe it will be their spouse they are willing to cast off.

WeezieAugust 30, 2021

Thank you Jacob for using you talents in writing to illuminate the truth. You gave such great reasons and things to carefully and prayerfully consider. I love the part about peace. That is absolutely something absent from all those who believe they’ve been lied too by people who are anything but full of peace. If only every member of the church could read this article before they make their infamous Facebook post on how leaving the church is the best decision for them.

Carma MirabalAugust 30, 2021

This is a very good video to watch to help all of us understand the temple. I teach temple prep and will use it in my class. Hopefully it will help those going through for the first time and open their hearts to being regular temple attenders. Thank you for making this video!

Harold RustAugust 30, 2021

Great presentation of an important perspective that is vital if we want to avoid the trap of being drawn in to persistent pernicious pounding against the fundamental fruits provided by all the prophets.

stevie maireid mckennaAugust 30, 2021

Thank you so much for that excellent article. It speaks the truth and needed to be said.

vickieAugust 30, 2021

there are and there have been so many negative comments regarding the church that use to shock me but over time i realized that these are truely ignorant people they believe what their preachers tell them and then spread the negativity to others. i always say to some who believe the wrong things abt our church, that we dont spend time in church downgrading any other religion. we dont have time for this. God doesnt teach negativity in church and esp about other beliefs. we only concentrate on the truth and what God teaches us.

DavidAugust 29, 2021

Amen to this article. I know and love Elder Holland and I know no one that is more loving of all people regardless of any circimstances. When I served a mission a few years ago, Elder Holland called to discuss sending a missionary with same sex tendencies to our mission to serve. He told me of his love for this young man and how grateful he was that he wanted to serve and how much faith and confidence he had in him. We cried on the phone together as we discovered that this young man was from my home stake and that I already had a great love and admiration for him. That missionary was one of the best that I served with. I was so impressed and grateful to see the deep and true love that Elder Holland showed for this young missionary. They continue to be very close friends. I pray that we can all take a deep breath and pray for clarity on the goodness and Christlike love of this man and Apostle of Jesus Christ. Let us not be deceived into calling good evil... for he is not.

Richard ChristensenAugust 29, 2021

My dad introduced me to the books of Arvin Gibson. He used to be the CEO of Utah Power and Light, if I remember rightly. He intervwied people who had NDE. It was insightfull to see how these experience didn't destroy the person's agency. Even the non-christians had NDEs, but did not necessarily see Chirst. One of the "doctor" books showed that ~20% of the people who have had NDE can't wear watches. They just break. No explanation for it. Really interesting stuff.

Kim GarrettAugust 29, 2021

Levi Hancock is my 5th great-grandfather. I have searched and searched to find reference to him building the room used for the School of the Prophets. Can you tell me where you got that information? I'd love to share it with my family.

BeckyAugust 28, 2021

So beautifully said!

EveAugust 28, 2021

Joan - you've been truly blessed!!!

Kenny MazzantiAugust 28, 2021

Kids fight, especially siblings. Have you never watched lion cubs fight? Doing so strengthens them. I fought with my brother until I left on a mission. My brother and I loved each other and I would have given my life for him. Don't be helicopter parents trying to save your children from that which is of no consequence. Let them work it out and learn from it.

Marilyn JonesAugust 28, 2021

What a beautiful song and beautiful girls! I love hearing new music that builds up the role and purpose of women when the world around us tries to discount our worth. Thank You!

Susan CurtisAugust 28, 2021

Thank you for weighing in on the other side of this. It is interesting to me to note that this was not a talk given to the entire membership of the church, nor to the studentbody of BYU, but an instructional talk to faculty and staff of BYU, communicating to a very specific group on what is appropriate, and perhaps more importantly, what is not appropriate, in carrying out their duties as employees of a church-owned university. In a day when teachers take it upon themselves to teach their own philosophies and put forward many agendas, it is imperative that it is made clear to the faculty and staff that their teachings need to be in compliance with the gospel teachings. I have seen what happens when rogue teachers are allowed to go unchallenged in the things they espouse from their podiums. Thank you for reminding us of the Elder Holland we all know and love.

JulieAugust 28, 2021

I don't need to know Elder Holland personally to know that he is a great servant of God and loves us all. I love him. He is an incredible disciple of Christ and the gospel. His words in his talks and his actions speak volumes about the man of God that he is. His talks have helped through many a hard time. He loves us all, as Christ does.

Harold RustAugust 28, 2021

Thanks for this very uplifting support of a good (actually a very, very good) man. It is sad, but the natural man has an inclination to speak badly of others if he feels surrounded by a fan club of listeners. How many times have we seen someone willing to chime in with a biting negative comment regarding another person when they are with friends who are willing to listen and not refute their unkind remarks? That is what can happen even more easily now when social media encourages someone to blast out with blatantly hateful diatribes just so they can attempt to catch attention and puff their own ego? This article is one that needs to be repeated in the presence of any out there who even think of casting stones at an Apostle who is demonstrating love along with sharing fundamental principles of Gospel living. Surround these purveyors of hateful attacks with reasonable folks ready to discuss this issue calmly but thoughtfully and they will shrink in cowardice as they see that their words were worse than worthless. Thanks again for the uplifting words by this author.

Shauna PloegerAugust 28, 2021

Thank you for sharing your personal experience with Elder Holland and your personal faithfulness! The church being crystal clear on its doctrine on the family is the most compassionate path forward for those struggling with SSA. It's unfortunate that some members misunderstand the difference between a church policy (which can change) and doctrine of the Gospel of Christ (which is eternal and will not change). While it is clear, the brethren have a deep empathy (which I felt from Elder Holland in his talk), they cannot change eternal truths, which stand apart from men and their desires, no matter how good or right they might appear from the outside. God is at the helm of this church and the apostles do His bidding. I sincerely hope those with SSA stay in the church. We need you!! You have so much to give the church body at large. Your sexuality is not your only defining trait and not the only thing you can contribute in the Kingdom of God. We love you and are saddened by the trials that must accompany faithful membership in this church, but we applaud you for staying, for being faithful, for showing others the way forward.

SueAugust 28, 2021

Elder Holland's talk was timely and significant. It helped me feel more love and concern for gay people. I don't know how you could get upset when someone tears up and says how much he and the other apostles have prayed and cried over this topic. How much they love and care for all of us and how we should do the same. It is best to look at ourselves rather than throw darts at others

Matthew GlosengerAugust 28, 2021

Elder Holland, IMO, exemplified exactly what the priesthood of God is. LOVE. Brother Bennion is pretty close to that level himself. We can all learn great lessons from these two Men of God.

AnnetteAugust 27, 2021

Thank you for sharing your experiences with Elder Holland, Jeff. I have never met him personally but have found him to be one of the most endearing of church leaders as I've heard him speak in conferences and read his writings over the years. It is evident to me that he is a true servant of the Lord. I recently graduated from BYU-Idaho and was disappointed to learn during my course of study there that Marxism has infiltrated their English department as it has nearly every institution of higher learning in America, and in the American Foundations course, worldly academia's definition of Conservatism is taught. (I've known many Conservatives in my life, and none of them fit that definition.) So yay for Elder Holland for making it clear that church colleges and universities are not to take the world as their guide. I think the world is "too much with us" at our church campuses, most likely. This cannot be pleasing to the Lord.

MelAugust 27, 2021

There is no reason for conflict nor judgement amongst the members of the church concerning the recent announcement. If we adhere to the direction given on this matter from the official church handbook we would not be dealing with so much divisiveness with our membership : Official Handbook of the Church: 38.7.13 Vaccinations "Vaccinations administered by competent medical professionals protect health and preserve life. Members of the Church are encouraged to safeguard themselves, their children, and their communities through vaccination. Ultimately, individuals are responsible to make their own decisions about vaccination. If members have concerns, they should counsel with competent medical professionals and also seek the guidance of the Holy Ghost." As someone who has sought counsel with multiple competent medical professionals and also sought the guidance of the Holy Ghost as per direction from the First Presidency, the instruction I have received is different from many, but right for me. Could this be an opportunity for the members of the church to consider the uncut direction in the handbook concerning vaccines and have the confidence each of us will do the work of researching and receiving spiritual guidance, and then show respect for each other even if our answers might look different?

Jo Ann OkelberryAugust 27, 2021

I watched this speech and listened to it. I thought it was a great talk. I have been concerned about how so many religious institutions are becoming so secular. I do not want to see the Church universities become secularized in order to gain favor of the few. I am a BYU graduate, and I have always been so proud that gospel principles were taught in so many of my classes. There are so many who would like to attend BYU, and I think that if people do not want to abide by the principles and rules of the university, they should let those who will take their places. I love Elder Holland. He speaks for millions of people.

Minerva MillerAugust 27, 2021

When Elder Holland was sustained as an apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ in 1994, I was watching the proceedings of that General Conference in a small Church classroom at the Stake Center in Berlin, Germany, through a small TV monitor receiving the transmission in English. But even in such a setting, I had this conviction in my heart then that he was truly called of God. That conviction has stayed with me--even all the more strengthened through the years, as I have studied and listened to his inspired messages and teachings. His most recent clarion call for the BYU to be unique, like President Kimball did decades ago, is nothing short of inspiration and expression of love but also concern. He lived up to the calling of an apostle of our Savior Jesus Christ by declaring the standards of the gospel fearlessly "amidst a tumult of opinions." Yet, he conveyed his message with kindness and compassion, I only felt further motivated to continue to show love, consideration and understanding to my fellow travelers on the road regardless of their gender orientation. I sustain Elder Holland with all my heart. God be thanked for such an exemplary leader in His Kingdom at this point in time!

BeccaAugust 27, 2021

I LOVE Elder Holland! I have had two friends have interactions with him, one where he invited them to his office to visit with them after their sister died by suicide and the other where he sweetly answered the letter from a first grade student. The LOVE he has for all of us is incalculable! Thank you Elder Holland for your service as the Lord’s representative, you truly follow His lead with love and compassion!!

Robert D StarlingAugust 27, 2021

To those critics who would be so foolhardy as to cast virtual stones at the Lord's anointed servant, I would repeat the words of our Savior to the woman who was caught in the act of sexual sin . . . go and sin no more.

CASAugust 27, 2021

Anyone who could find offense with the wonderful counsel of Elder Hollard's timely talk, needs to take a look in the mirror to see the real offender!

Michael SheaAugust 27, 2021

Expressions of outrage seem to have become the new American cultural norm. But outrage attracts an evil spirit like a shark is attracted by blood in turbulent water. Whenever I hear stories of this sort, I am reminded of a passage from Isaiah (29:18-21): “And in that day… the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off: that make a man an offender for a word… and turn aside the just for a thing of nought.”. Fault-finding is a very dangerous habit.

ShaunaAugust 27, 2021

I love Elder Holland and am personally very grateful for his recent clarion call for BYU to embrace it's mission and purpose. I LOVED reading the whole talk and welcomed all of his counsel. I am so grateful for his passion for this great institution, that I also love, and where my children are currently attending. BYU must be different than other universities and align with the Gospel of Jesus Christ, or it can't justify it's existence. There are too many members of the Church, clamoring for an education there, who are paying tithes and offerings, which support that institution, who will never set foot on campus, for BYU to align with the world. Note this searing quote from a BYUI devotional Elder Bednar delivered on January 26th, 2016 (as a past president of BYU-I and apostle), which is also true for BYU Provo students:“In the authority of the holy Apostleship, I now raise a voice of warning, and I make a solemn promise. If the day ever were to come that intellectual arrogance, a lack of appreciation, and a spirit of demanding entitlement take root on this campus — among the students, the faculty, the employees, the administration or within the community of Rexburg — then in that day the Spirit of Ricks will be well on the way to being extinguished. And the heavenly influence and blessings that have prospered this institution and the people associated with it will be withdrawn,” Bednar warned. “Conversely, as long as intellectual modesty, humility, gratitude, obedience, and frugality continue to characterize those who learn and serve at Brigham Young University-Idaho, then this university will shine forth ever brighter as a beacon of righteousness and of inspired educational innovation.” I have attended 3 private universities and repeat, that BYU must be fully aligned with the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and its leaders, or risk discontinuation, or irrelevancy. So sad, but typical, that so many who are attacking him, didn't read his full talk in context. It is a brave, compassionate, piercing and prophetic call for BYU to remain true to it's mission, as outlined by President Kimball and others. I welcome it

Sasha KwapinskiAugust 27, 2021

It is difficult, in today's society, to recognize the difference and strike the balance between love and relativism. For many in today's world, "love" is thought of and equated to little more than the absence of moral standards. James 1:27 states concisely this "twin call" of exercising love and maintaining behavioral standards. "Pure religion and undefiled" consists in practicing both halves of that equation -- "visiting the orphans and widows" (reaching out in love to others), while remaining "unstained from the world" (maintaining standards of behavior and morality. As for me, I am proud to be a member of a denomination which understands that distinction (between love and relativism).

Kathleen Dalton WoodburyAugust 27, 2021

I was not a BYU student, but I tried to be a student of Hugh Nibley through his published works. They have had a great influence on how I study and learn from the scriptures to this day. I heard him speak at a Salt Lake Institute devotional when I was in college and was amazed to notice that he appeared to be taking notes as he was speaking - at least he was busy writing something during his own talk. I met him once and mentioned that I enjoyed reading science fiction and fantasy (he wasn't impressed by science fiction because he felt it idealized scientists), and he told me that he enjoyed fantasy, too. A very interesting and insightful mind that more people need to be influenced by.

Leslie MadsenAugust 27, 2021

I was so impressed with Elder Holland’s thoughtful and sensitive remarks at BYU. He expressed compassion and understanding for those struggling with issues in life but reiterated the importance of this campus standing as a light to the rest of the academic world by staying true to the standards of the Church of Jesus Christ. Leslie Madsen

Patty WalserAugust 27, 2021

Beautiful song with a beautiful message! Thanks for sharing with us!

Anna DurfeeAugust 27, 2021

Thank you for your perspective and your defense of a true man of God. It's so unsettling what some took away from his BYU address. I took away a much different message. A friend of mine bristled at the musket analogy for some reason. Here was my response to him: The analogy first comes from Neal A. Maxwell. Holland chooses to emphasize it for BYU and its path forward, specifically for those in the classroom. Holland says as he quotes a letter sent to him, "But I would hope that BYU professors would be bridging those gaps between faith and intellect.." Then he goes into Maxwell's musket AND trowel analogy. Early church members did not have the luxury of being left alone as they built the church with their trowels. I would imagine, begrudgingly, they had to keep the muskets close. Maxwell uses that to liken it to the difficult situation many BYU, and other CES school professors can find themselves in. It comes up for a lot of my colleagues in the sciences a bit more often. There are times when it will APPEAR that new discoveries are in direct contrast with church doctrine. What do you do then? Or it will seem that current interpretations of social science studies are in contrast to church doctrine and resulting policies. Each professor has to ask themselves what will happen then. Maxwell's quote says, “In a way[,] [Latter-day Saint] scholars at BYU and elsewhere are a little bit like the builders of the temple in Nauvoo, who worked with a trowel in one hand and a musket in the other. Today scholars building the temple of learning must also pause on occasion to defend the kingdom." Oaks later asks, using the original Maxwell analogy, to hear more musket fire, meaning that perhaps too many professors who can see the link between the secular and the spiritual are instead backing down and not saying anything for fear of whatever may come of that. Back in the early church, the musket may have been just as necessary as the trowel to build up the church. Perhaps the message is that today that same is true. Since engaging in the conversation with you, Brian, which I have really loved doing so thank you for keeping the dialogue open, I've been thinking about peace. How do we get peace? I just listened to the Saturday session of last conference where Elder Holland's talk is on peace. As he spoke, I thought, well, you could get peace through war. That's not fun. No one wants that. But there are times when the enemy won't relent, won't stop trying to harm you and threaten your existence and so you have to fight. Then there is peace you get because everyone has learned to love each other, even when they disagree. That's the ideal right there. Unfortunately, another way to get peace, or pseudo peace, is to back down or to give up. It's like in movies where the enemy promises the other side that they'll stop if the other side joins the enemy. If the other side joins the enemy, the conflict ends and there is a sort of peace, but the peace came with too many concessions and compromises, leaving the other side probably without much of what they wanted. So where you see a problem bringing up the concept of the musket and musket fire as a poor way to illustrate the difficulties and challenges ahead, I see, perhaps, a better way to understand how to gain, gradually, the ideal type of peace. By defending our doctrine, the very gospel of our Lord and Savior, we will, undoubtedly, cause some discord. That's unfortunate. It's unfortunate that someone can bring upon themselves hate and vitriol because they wish to defend the gospel just like it's unfortunate that someone can bring upon themselves hate for defending the rights of LGBTQ people or people of color. But should we or, in the audience's case, scholars at the Lord's universities, choose to gain peace through throwing up the white flag and conceding the entire ground of the gospel, then we gain a frail, weak, mirage of true peace. Just as those fighting for equality could just give up and go home and therefore gain a certain mirage of peace because well, they just stopped fighting. The thing I like about Holland's talk is the call for more understanding and earnest intentionality in how we reconcile our faith with secular knowledge because THAT might eventually lead to the kind of peace where everyone has just learned to love each other despite disagreement. Scholars or church members who have studied the doctrine and have learned to live it with exactness will become the kind that can communicate their genuine love for others despite disagreement. This might help those that disagree with us about our doctrine learn to love us too even though they disagree. Then you get real peace. Christ had to contend with others, sometimes quite frequently, in order for Him to teach the gospel which He knew would eventually lead to the kind of eternal peace we all want. Peace is a process and parts of the process include defending ourselves and the truths we have a testimony of and doing it in a way that might aid understanding."

Joan BennionAugust 27, 2021

In full disclosure, Jeff is my son. I know of no one who tries to live a more Christ-like life and I have been blessed to be on his journey with him. Watching him take some darts along the way has been painful as his mother but I so appreciate his spiritual insight and courage to live his truth. I know his heart and his love & compassion for his fellow travelers. I have also been gratified to know of those souls he has helped & encouraged. We can all do better in replacing hate & misunderstanding with love and understanding for all of God’s children. Our journeys are not all the same but we must anchor ourselves to God’s principles and love for each of us and try always to share it with others no matter where we are in our journey. I love my LGBTQ friends one and all. And thank you Jeff, with whom I share a great love for Elder Holland and for sharing tender thoughts and feelings in this article. They are mine as well, I love you both.

LindaAugust 27, 2021

Apostasy begins with criticizing out church leaders. That's just what Satan wants.

Kerry ClarkAugust 27, 2021

In 1998 on a Sunday, our family was in the Lobby of LDS Hospital waiting for an elevator. We were on our way to see my mother who was a patient in the hospital. While waiting, Elder Holland walked in hurriedly. I quickly said while pointing to my 12 year old son "Elder Holland, meet the newest Deacon in The Church". Elder Holland congratulated my son and gave him a side hug and a little "noogie" - probably because my son is a red head. Sadly this son passed nearly 4 years ago from a drug and alcohol overdose. I have always been grateful for the brief interaction my son had with Elder Holland.

E. L.August 27, 2021

I woke up this morning to see a post on my Facebook feed by my very bitter, hate-filled adult child about Elder Holland and his talk at BYU. Rather than responding to the vitriol he is claiming to be "true", I searched out the actual talk and wasn't surprised to read a loving talk taken incredibly out of context. Almost immediately after, I found this article. Thank you. I've tried to teach my children to go to the source before doing, saying, or even believing anything. Unfortunately I don't think it would have mattered in this case. This child is just so full of hate and contention and it's best to ignore things like this. I love Elder Holland and wish I could have the opportunity to sit with him and discuss the many talks he's given that have felt specifically for me over the years.

Dennis HorneAugust 27, 2021

I have had no personal interactions with Elder Holland but I still know him to be an apostle and special witness of the Lord Jesus Christ and that is good enough for me to sustain him completely and follow his counsel.

Ben ArkellAugust 27, 2021

Thank you so much for sharing this! We are so grateful for everything Meridian does. A true light in the darkness!

Carol RadmallAugust 27, 2021

I personally love Elder Hollands talks, he oozes love, kindness, caring, spiritualness above measure! He pours his heart and soul out in his talks! I don't understand how anyone could be offended by his words! He is truly inspired and a man of God. The prophets throughout history have been stoned whenever they have heard anything that they didn't agree with! Society has been becoming very angry! I feel if the Savior gave the talk he couldn't have said it any better than Elder Holland ~ the fact is that God's laws do not change! They never will! We will never be exempt from keeping the commandments!

Herm OlsenAugust 27, 2021

Great message about an even greater man!

A. BinghamAugust 27, 2021

We are witnessing the virtual stoning of an apostle who speaks the truth by very cruel people using weaponized social media tactics.

MichelleAugust 27, 2021

Thank you for this perspective. Come Follow Me manual suggested Pres Eyring’s April 2019 talk: The Power of Sustaining Faith. Every member needs to review it and give an honest introspective look at him/herself. George Q. Cannon’s warning, that he quoted, was powerful. Criticism of the Lord’s chosen leaders leads us into darkness.

Duane BoyceAugust 27, 2021

A saddening but wonderful article. Personally, I do not feel worthy of Elder Holland. That he is undergoing criticism demonstrates that some can find something to criticize in anyone and anything. Elder Holland's greatness of soul should be obvious, and that alone should exempt him from such treatment. Apparently--sadly--it is not so. That is a pity that nothing can justify.

Jill AndrewsAugust 27, 2021

Thank you for sharing your experiences Jeff as a testament to the words and deeds that should at the very least count as evidence of how we can interpret Elder Holland's remarks. My heart breaks with yours that such an outpouring of love could be so utterly misunderstood. Experience has also taught me the truth you included re: the scriptures speaking of “the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.” Satan enjoys bringing additional misery and woe to those already bearing the burden of same sex attraction by whatever means necessary including "stirring their hearts up to anger" because that's who he is. Let us not be a reflection of that!

Steve SwappAugust 27, 2021

I can only echo and say amen to this Gospel-based perspective offered by Jeff Bennion. Elder Jeffrey R. Holland, who I have met and corresponded with on a variety of occasions, and the other Apostles of the Lord leading His Restored Church have spent much time in prayer, study, conversations, and apostolic consultation to design loving and encouraging responses to the concerns surrounding the various types of sexual attraction God's children experience during this sometimes troubling mortal existence on Earth as well as toward the sexual orientations and self-labeling that individuals have been adopting to try to understand and describe their sexual attractions and related characteristics. The leaders of the Lord's Church, after carefully considering the many interpretations and viewpoints that people have developed in recent decades, the first thing they did was to create a website and a booklet to reassure those who experience sexual attractions and feelings about their gender that don't seem to align easily with the clear teachings of the Church regarding the proper use of our sexuality, and these materials focused almost exclusively on reassuring affected people and teaching the general Church membership that Christian discipleship requires us to develop understanding, love, and empathy for our brothers and sisters who face these special challenges and any others in this mortal life. Nothing in their words has indicated that it is proper to distance ourselves from same-gender attracted Saints or those facing the doubts and anxieties that come with gender dysphoria. Quite the opposite! We have been called to repentance for our lacking love and support for the people around us facing these challenges, and happily many Latter-day Saints are realizing that these are people we need to love and encourage, just as we need to do for all people on the Earth. To be a consecrated disciple of the Christ while at the same time experiencing such confusing sexual and identity feelings is one of this life's more difficult challenges, perhaps in our age even more than in centuries past because of the philosophies and assumptions that have been built up and popularized and are partially based on truths but contain many mistaken conclusions. Many good people in and out of the Church have adopted certain beliefs that are not really true, and it has led sincere people battling with these challenges as well as many family members and friends away from the truths of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and even to have doubts about the important teachings the Lord is having His apostles instill in our hearts. So without getting into the many details and questions for which millions of Saints and other Christians and others need better understanding and the unshakable witness from the Holy Spirit, let me just say this to keep this complex issue simple for the moment: Voices of the world (in this case those supporting various tenets of what we can call "gay philosophy") and voices from the anointed leadership of the Church of Jesus Christ often sound like opposing clarion calls. Sometimes it's a matter of seeing things from a different perspective, and sometimes it really is satanic forces spreading easy-to-believe lies about the teachings of the Church and the path to true and lasting happiness. My heartfelt advice is for us who desire to be faithful disciples of the Christ to lean towards the answers and guidance provided to us by the wise, prayerful, and inspired leaders of the Church rather than automatically interpreting everything through worldly lenses, which are partially true and to a great degree misleading. Truly, we need to be able to perceive the full palette of truths on the subject in order to understand what the leaders in the LGBTQIA community have right and what they have erred in. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men... We hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

RebeccaAugust 27, 2021

Amen to this great article!!

Ann-Marie JensenAugust 27, 2021

I’m always appreciative of the insights shared by Geoff.

ChristineAugust 26, 2021

Thank you so much. As one who has loved Elder Holland and his powerful messages of peace and love and hope and faith in Jesus Christ for all of my adult life, I thank you for your beautiful words. He has been a beacon to me and blessed my life in ways I cannot even begin to articulate. Thank you for your words in defense of a very good man and servant of the Lord. May God bless you and your family.

KCAugust 26, 2021

Thank you! Too many of us sisters equate “niceness” with passivity. In D&C 93 the Lord starts out by talking about light & truth that creates worlds AND created and gives life to US then at the end he reminds us to “make haste” & pray always then “keep my sayings” & “you shall not be confounded in this world”. You have a perfect examples of how our actively choosing the light, and shining the light in darkness makes us feel better & we are promised not to be confounded. No reason for passivity.

Patricia WintersAugust 26, 2021

"Let’s all commit to raising our sites and speaking up." This should be "raising our sights."

KLTAugust 26, 2021

Well written and well stated. In this time of ever increasing distractions, it is time to turn to the Lord and His prophet, to read the scriptures and pray with real intent. Having the Spirit was never more important than now.

Ronald BarnesAugust 26, 2021

I did not start wearing a mask until I was required to do so. Because of conflicting information, I resisted getting the vaccine. It was not the Prophet's words that cause me to finally get the shot, it was his example. Learning that he got shot himself, I decided that if anyone on earth knew the right thing to do, it would be the Prophet of God.

Sandy DildineAugust 26, 2021

There is so much of the radical, Marxist agenda on campuses in this country. An institution that teaches truth, not propaganda is needed more than ever! So many qualified people want to teach at BYU; let the indoctrinated professors go so that the cycle does not continue. Parents should be able to trust that their children will be strengthened in their testimonies and not led astray by the people who's salaries are paid for by them and by faithful Saints tithing dollars!

Milton NodackerAugust 26, 2021

One of the things that attracted me to the Church as a investigator is the principle that the founding documents of the United States, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, are considered inspired by God and held sacred by this Church. I have always felt a deep reverence for these documents and the divine principles enumerated in them. I was distressed when the latest revision to the Handbook ripped out and shredded the Second Article of the Bill of Rights, apparently in the service of "political correctness". I found Elder Holland's reference to the building of the Nauvoo Temple requiring trowels and muskets instructive. Under current Church policy the builders would have had to defend the construction with trowels alone, since the muskets would have been prohibited on a Church property.

brian stubbsAugust 26, 2021

Adding my own miniscule associations with Hugh Nibley, I took Middle Egyptian from him 1971-72. Thirty students started the class, five finished the first semester; three of us finished the second semester. I told him of my plans to also learn Hebrew and other things. He gave me some advice: take Modern Hebrew, not Biblical Hebrew, and you'll read circles around the Biblical Hebrew students. I took his advice and he was right. He later took a keen interest in my linguistic research in Uto-Aztecan, following it closely and encouragingly. He was not only a great man and mind, but also very kind. I loved him like a second father.

Kathryn GrantAugust 26, 2021

When Moroni visited Joseph Smith, he echoed Malachi's words that if the hearts of the children don't turn to their fathers, the whole earth will be utterly wasted at the Lord's coming (see Doctrine and Covenants 2). Could this be why Satan is trying so hard to turn the hearts of the children *against* their fathers?

Nihla W. JuddAugust 25, 2021

It is so refreshing to our heavy laden souls to hear truth shouted from the page - finally. Thank you, Elder Holland, for loudly proclaiming the truth when we thought hope was sinking rapidly below the surface. I have grandchildren attending BYU, and as a result, their stance on correct principles is not at all what we thought it would be when we trustingly sent them there. Something has gone awry. The influence of a "teacher" is so all encompassing that he who bears that title must sense the responsibility that goes along with it. "Rabbi" / teacher. We must emulate and follow the teachings of Christ so that we do not offend "the little ones" and bear the consequences of leading them astray from revealed truth. Thank you for standing tall and proclaiming loudly true and correct principles. Thanks for restoring hope in the hearts of parents who have been devastated of late. We are so very grateful for your clear, concise, loud exclamations on weighty matters i.e., the spiritual lives of our posterity who were trustingly placed in the arms of Brigham Young University. Thanks for calling out the wolves in sheep's clothing. God bless your for it - "Do we not have a prophet in the land?" Let's return Brigham Young University to its greatness. "As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord." We love you again and again.

Jill PalmerAugust 25, 2021

I am tremendously grateful for my years as a student at BYU,1968-75. Each of my teachers in many fields helped my testimony of the gospel increase. In particular, my first Book of Mormon class was an eye-opener to me with warnings about social and other issues to beware of in the latter-days. To be forewarned is to be forearmed. I hope that Elder Holland's magnificent talk is taken to heart by all.

brian stubbsAugust 25, 2021

Three cheers for Elder Holland! Make that 27 cheers!! Some of my children and grandchildren have said similarly, that some BYU professors push worldly philosophy and not even mingled with much scripture. Especially irksome are how many BYU professors seem to think the Book of Mormon is "inspired fiction" or less and did not happen in ancient America, counter to evidences like the discovery of Nahom written in stone, no less, and hundreds of other such supports. Those into such wayward non-wisdom need to keep those opinions to themselves, be retired early, or fired. And that question should be posed to every future prospective professor, as well.

Jill PalmerAugust 25, 2021

I am up to page 250 of this book and do not want it to end! Hugh Nibley has been a rock in Latter-day Saint scholarship, entirely necessary in confirming the Book of Mormon in its cultural and religious settings. I enjoy his witty style of taking down critics. He has helped my testimony of the gospel expand, for which I am grateful.

Andre J MostertAugust 25, 2021

I miss Hugh Nibley. Our family: my father, mother, my sister and I moved into the Manavu Ward in Provo shortly after Bro. and Sis. Nibley moved across Fourth East from Ward Chapel. In fact Hugh was one of the Gospel Doctrine teachers. I was 13 years old. My folks attended his class that first Sunday. The first thing my dad said as they walked in our house was "I don't understand that man at all." So, from then on Mother attended Hugh's class and my dad went to the other class. That was our introduction to Hugh. When he found out they actually lived in the 9th Ward's area, he went looking for a house within the Manavu Ward boundary:Three doors west of us on 7th North. My mother and Phyllis became great friends. Finding out that my dad was a carpenter, Hugh asked him to come to their home and see if he could build an office space for him. Dad visited with Hugh and checked out the number of books Hugh had in his library. Hugh had an old carriage house on his property and after checking the floor, my dad explained that the ton of books Hugh had meant that he would have to shore up the floor first. As for me, Hugh was a teacher that was a delight to try and follow his teaching. One day as I walked past his classroom in the old Joseph Smith Building, the door opened and the student poured out, all of them looking totally amaze. I asked a friend, what had happened? He laughed and said Hugh did it again. "What?" He was nearing the end of class and he started teaching in some language none of us recognized. I often walked home from school the same time as Hugh. I would walk behind him as I could see he was reading a book. AS we got to the split where to the right you would cross 8th North to go down Third East on the west side and to the east said. More than once, I jogged ahead and slowed down traffic, while Hugh crossed without ever looking up. During my graduate school days, Hugh's son Alex would often baby sit our two boys. One day my Finnish-born wife asked if we could go talk to Hugh. Which we did. She was braver than me and took along one of the several of his books we owned. As we talked about how many languages he knew, he thought for a moment and then said "15 or 16. I can read and write two or three others, but I don't consider that I know them. Then he signed my wife's book "Since Cumorah" with the brief comment: "Greetings to the Mosterts from Hugh Nibley." We loved that man and his family.

Jan RifeAugust 25, 2021

I love Elder Holland. My mom worked with him when she taught seminary in Seattle, he has slways been my favotite. 4 out of 5 of my siblings went there in the 70s. My son graduated 10 years ago and I was so shocked at how it has changed. It's about time for this speach and I'm glad it came from my favorite. I hope all the professors that teach contrary to the gospel principles are let go. Please return it to the Lord's university

Dennis HorneAugust 25, 2021

I recommend this book to all. Studying Nibley is a profound experience in gaining knowledge and humility.

Barbara BlackburnAugust 25, 2021

I was, and am an avid fan of Hugh Nibley and have many of his books I recorded all of his television lessons. I was young and admired him in so many ways. He said it like it was. He has been a stalwart in my growth and I appreciate all I gained from him. My children and grandchildren have also been his fans. We are so grateful to have been enlightened by his intelligence and determination.

Dennis HorneAugust 25, 2021

I certainly do not know all things, or even many things I would like to know, so I don't know if "justification" of the past is the best word to use or context to ponder the subject in, but I do defend the doctrine and policies and procedures of past prophets in their proper historical context. I have done so with this subject on my blog: and for a soul-edifying and uplifting detailed account of the receipt of the revelation itself, see:

Barbie MeyersAugust 25, 2021

Thank you to Elder Holland for addressing the issues found within BYU. I have found much coming from there very discomforting. I hope and pray that the faculty will realign themselves with truth and light. I hope and pray that the student body will seek for truth and light.

LoraAugust 25, 2021

Bruce R McConkie, CES conference Aug 1978 quoted in Sermons and Writings of Bruce R. McConkie: “Forget everything that I have said, or what President Brigham Young or President George Q. Cannon or whoever has said in days past that is contrary to the present revelation. We spoke with a limited understanding and without the light and knowledge that has now come into the world. We get our truth line upon line and precept upon precept. We have now had added a new flood of intelligence and light on this particular subject, and it erases all the darkness and all the views and all the thoughts of the past. They don’t matter anymore . . . It doesn’t make a particle of difference what anybody ever said about the Negro matter before the first day of June of this year (1978). It is a new day and a new arrangement, and the Lord has now given the revelation that sheds light into the world on this subject.”

Farol E HunterAugust 25, 2021

That brought tears to my eyes. He is an amazing man and I honor him. I still, to this day, remember hearing the announcement that "all worthy males will be able to receive the priesthood" and feeling thrilled for that decision.

PamAugust 25, 2021

I am so grateful for Elder Holland's speech. I attended BYU in the 70s, and returned to Provo recently after having lived in other places in between. I was surprised at the changes I have seen at BYU since returning. I have been disappointed in hearing about radical ideas of some faculty members at BYU, about very vocal promotion of alternate lifestyles. There was a house on my street occupied by several members of the football team, who had inappropriate parties every weekend involving alcohol, tobacco, and likely other substances. I see athletes for BYU and other students whose dress and hair do not reflect the honor code. I am so glad that Elder Holland addressed some of the issues affecting BYU at this time. I hope BYU will uphold its unique mission and not yield to the voices that are pulling it away from that mission.

Rosie BAugust 25, 2021

I was a young single working mother in 1982 when I converted to the Church. I had a strong testimony of the Book of Mormon, but there was a lot about Church culture that I found confusing & discouraging. I discovered Hugh Nibley's works and his fascinating insights helped me see more of the big eternal picture. I hope for a revival of interest in his work.

JuliannAugust 25, 2021

Everyone has a story, a life, struggles and successes to share. And people are hungry to talk, but they have become cynical and jaded that anyone really cares to listen. I can strike up a conversation with just about anyone because I take the time to do so, because I ask the right questions, and because I sincerely am interested in who they are. Plus I’m not out to give advice, diminish feelings or “fix” others. There is an art to listening, and it can be learned, but it takes patience, desire, and two ears, one mouth.

Sydney WheadonAugust 25, 2021

I enjoy all of your comments, but this one was very relevant and important in our world.

Bill EnglishAugust 25, 2021

You mean like "today most scholars agree that the best option is a river valley called Wadi Tayyib al-Ism, discovered in 1995 by Latter-day Saint explorers George Potter and Craig Thorsted." in the text of the article. Or, "According to Warren Aston, who has carefully explored the surrounding regions..." Or the list of several books and articles listed in the notes and bibliography?

DanAugust 25, 2021

Very good and thought provoking

Maryann TaylorAugust 24, 2021

I just read this address today and I am so glad you also posted it on Meridian. Elder Holland makes it clear that BYU professors have a sacred trust to teach according to the light and truth of the gospel. I am so happy Elder Holland gave this address at a time when there is confusion for some about the subject of same-sex relationships. I think my favorite part of the address was his comment that: "..Christ never ONCE withheld his love from anyone, but he also never once said to anyone, 'Because I love you, you are exempt from keeping my commandments.' " I think that says it all.

CurtisAugust 24, 2021

This is exactly something I am researching and am writing on right now. This is a fantastic article and I quote several of the same things you do!

Kelly P.August 24, 2021

My own son's testimony was shredded and shattered by the teachings and opinions of an admired BYU professor over 26 years ago. My son, a faithful returned missionary, was so proud and thankful to attend BYU, where he earned his Bachelor's degree. We were thankful that he could attend BYU, and entrusted him to that great institution. But we never expected him to be spiritually wounded by a professor and mentor who should have been strengthening his faith and building his testimony. I hope the faculty and leaders of BYU will listen to Elder Holland, and work hard to stay within the light and truths of the gospel of Jesus Christ and teach them. They have an extremely important responsibility to do so.

R McCaskillAugust 24, 2021

I graduate from BYU and was impressed and loved how it was not only a secular institution but also a religious one. I enjoyed my gospel doctrine classes and know the mission of BYU was inspired. I had to go through an interview with my Bishop and agree to uphold the standard of the church, I hope the professors are asked to do the same and are held accountable if they don't. If I didn't uphold those standards I risked getting expelled, I would expect the professors should be held to the same criteria.

Jo Ann OkelberryAugust 24, 2021

This situation is so incredibly sad. My heart aches and cries for all those people, especially the women and girls, who will be back in bondage. We all feel so helpless. May God ease their burdens.

Jan KuesterAugust 24, 2021

Thank you for a very revealing article. I agree completely and watch with a heavy heart, the effects of the beliefs and errant claims which so many people in our modern, self-deluding society ascribe to. Thank you for the call and warning to each of us. I have a firm testimony that we are led by prophets, seers and revelatory who are here to teach, testify and encourage all mankind that we must look to the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ for salvation and peace.

Jennetta BiberstonAugust 24, 2021

I read the "Kiterunner" and it made me sick knowing how many adults and children had suffered like that and even worse. I pray for your people, for our people, as we should all be brothers and sisters.

Carl OlsenAugust 24, 2021

Very early on when the various vaccines began distribution, I vowed that I would not be vaccinated because I did not trust that they were safe. As time went on I became even more firm in my decision. But when I heard President Nelson's recommendation, I made it a matter of prayer during evening prayers with my wife. Almost immediately after that prayer, I distinctly heard a "still small voice" repeatedly speak the phrase "Follow the Prophet" resounding in my mind. I immediately scheduled an appointment to get the vaccine.

CASAugust 24, 2021

As a BYU graduate of many years ago and avid BYU supporter, I honestly think it is time to play "hardball" with these issues! I propose that any teacher/professor violating the high standards of teaching at Brigham Young University which are outside the boundaries set by the Church of Latter-day Saints and the teachings therein, should be put on academic probation with a follow-up interview by an Apostle in person. The claims against that person should be clear and substantiated by students or faculty. (The video clip by a Lehi High student the first week of school of the offense he/she saw and heard from a teacher was conclusive in the dismissal of that offending teacher!). If the concerns are substantiated, the instructor should be terminated immediately! Period! This is MY university also, and I think high standards of teaching should be expected and demanded!

Laurin RackhamAugust 24, 2021

Yesterday my daughter and I 'intstalled' her gay son and his sister in the dorms at the Y. Both have ever been treated with the utmost courtesy and dignity at the Y. They are some of my 32 offspring (and grand-offspring) who have been there. Afterwards, shopping for food for them, my daughter met Sister Susan Easton Black, also shopping, and expressed profound gratitude for her teaching there. "That class is where I gained my testimony of the Prophet Joseph Smith." That you Elder Doctor Holland and Sister Doctor Black so very much for all you do for all of us.

JaneAugust 24, 2021

I don't know anyone there and I'm sick as well. All those women and girls driven back into the dark ages because our leaders don't have the courage to do the right thing. Not only that, but US leaders are preventing others from doing the right thing. God help the Afghans. I trust that God will demand justice from US leaders sentencing Afghans to death, if they're lucky. I pray with all my might for our sisters and brothers there descending into darkness because we abandoned them. Only the Lord can help them now.

Dennis HorneAugust 24, 2021

This was a superb and inspired address from an Apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ. I see from online content that many are taking issue with it and therefore showing where they stand. Some are slandering this Special Witness who told the truth he knew some would find upsetting or unpopular or contrary to their personal views. Such is Elder Holland's calling and duty before God. I entertain slight hope that the offending parties at BYU that Elder Holland was speaking to will correct their ways. These people, as Elder Holland noted, are activists and advocates; hence the "tragic" friendly fire aimed at the Brethren/Church he spoke of. No matter the philosophies of the world, the scriptures and doctrine will not change and BYU needs to harmonize or either cease to exist or something else drastic--as Elder Holland, Pres. Nelson, and Pres. Oaks were all quoted as saying. We must love all (including LGBT) but NOT "condone" the sinful behavior or activism.

John R CarpenterAugust 24, 2021

"... After having served a full-time mission and marrying her husband in the temple, a friend of mine recently left the church. In her graduation statement on a social media post, she credited [such and such a BYU program and its faculty] with the radicalizing of her attitudes and the destruction of her faith.’” I know of 3 people who have left the Church because of what they learned at BYU - including my daughter.

John R CarpenterAugust 24, 2021

A comment regarding the left and right political image followed by another image of the Restored Gospel on the left and the Apostasy on the right. The Restored Gospel is neither left-wing nor right-wing of the political spectrum. It is a God centered way of life that can, through Jesus the Christ, lead to eternal salvation and to the full Glory of God. And anyone claiming or thinking that these two images in the article support left-wing politics and religion “that” is like the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ is wrong. And anyone thinking or claiming that the primary colors representing the left & right wing politics relate somehow to the image of the Restored Gospel or Apostasy is also wrong. The two images are separate and independent from each other. Any association other to the undecided being drawn one way or the other would be incorrect. The top image represents the pull of the left & right wing politics and their religions of man trying to influence the undecided. The bottom image conveys that the undecided need to choose between the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ and the Apostasy of popular emotional and so religions fixations.

Sonya WashburnAugust 24, 2021

I think we all need to remember not to judge people, some people's health will not allow them to be vaccinated. Also I find that when people wear a mask they feel safe and come too close and touch and hug and mess with their masks, and get germs all over their hands, spreading virus everywhere. Trying to understanding a person wearing a mask is more difficult so people come closer to be heard or understood...I say stop keep your distance, take the mask off so I can understand what you are saying..I prefer social distancing.

Sonya WashburnAugust 24, 2021

Thank you Elder Holland for addressing this issue. I too have felt to stop contributing to BYU if its professors are going to teach contrary to gospel principles. This has been going on for quite some time and there should be a way to weed out these unbelieving professors that are doing damage to our trusting children.

PatriceAugust 24, 2021

So glad that someone has said something. Bravo to Elder Holland. He is able to put his thoughts across in such a beautiful & spiritual way. What's been going on at BYU for the past several years and how it has accelerated to such a rapid pace is scary, to say the least.

SfischAugust 24, 2021

Amen and amen! Philosophies of men-so thankful for a living oracle to guide us in our fallen world. I love Elder Holland-he proclaimed the truth and corrected the mistakes in a way/manner that most only hope they could.

Elizabeth SAugust 24, 2021

Thanks for covering this talk in detail. I've written the Board of Trustees and admin at BYU 3 times in the past year about particular curricula and faculty attitudes at BYU. I am glad for this evidence that they are listening. Now I guess we'll see if this makes a difference with the boots on the ground.

Paralee M. EckmanAugust 24, 2021

I have known Elder Jeffrey R. Holland since he was a child in the same ward I grew up in. We met and visited briefly several times as he visited his beloved St. George. We treasure his wisdom and insight, and I am so glad he gave this address at BYU! I have heard from people who have had children who lost their testimony at BYU, and that is a tragedy! When a student attends BYU, you expect them to be strengthened in Gospel principles, and not hear messages against Church teachings. I went to BYU in 1954-55, and it was very Church centered. It needs to be now, and in the future!

William ToftAugust 24, 2021

Wearing masks is easy, even if you don't want to be vaccinated. It wasn't too long ago the prophet advised us to seek personal revelation. On this matter my wife and I (both in our 70s) have counseled together, pondered and prayed ....and continue to do so about the matter. Thus far, we feel the vaccine is not right for us. It may be for most people but we are avoiding the vaccine as we continue to be open to promptings to do otherwise.

ShaunaAugust 24, 2021

thank you Elder Holland. I love you and you will always be "President Holland" to me, as you were President of BYU when I was there. I thank God for you and your passion for BYU. I had a daughter there last year who is soon leaving on a mission and deliver another daughter there tomorrow. I have attended 2 other private universities for graduate training and there is nothing like BYU. But I am also aware that not all faculty are on board completely with the Gospel, and in fact, in receiving a masters degree there, many years ago, was also indoctrinated, and believed for a time, some ideologies that are not in complete harmony with the Gospel. Students can get the philosophies of the world anywhere, but BYU is one of the few places where they can learn those philosophies through the lens of the gospel. It seems to me that the Lord has a vested and continuing interest in education--i.e. D&C 88 and 93, but it also seems striking to me, that 4 of 15 current apostles have been either Presidents of BYU-I or BYU. I believe you when you say that the Lord planted a love for BYU early on in your heart, and I am so grateful that the flame is still burning. May God continue to lead this great university to be a "house of learning and a house of faith."

P SkousenAugust 24, 2021

In my life I attended BYU and helped my husband through this magnificent university. I have always been grateful for that opportunity. My brother and my youngest daughter graduated from BYU and my middle daughter graduated from BYU-I. The standards and wisdom received from the remarkable professors who stood for truth and righteousness was always a testimony to the truthfulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ to myself and to my family. Thank you Elder Holland for your perfect words of wisdom.

James WarrAugust 24, 2021

It would be nice if you gave credit to those who originally discovered this place instead of giving the impression that you made the discovery.

WeezieAugust 24, 2021

Thank you so very much for giving me some new and true perspective I had never thought of before. It really helped soften my heart. You are a phenomenal writer to be able to do what you did. I’m at peace now, thanks to you!

chris howellAugust 24, 2021

Thank you for sharing. As a parent with three BYU grads and son in law part of the faculty, I pray that Elder Holland's admonishment will be heeded without reservation.

JustinAugust 24, 2021

Thank you for sharing this message. Too many are swept along with "politically correct" messages, and forget the love of our Heavenly Father and His desire for happiness and love for all. Sometimes that means taking a stand, and aligning yourself with Him. His ways are not our ways.

LindaAugust 24, 2021

BYU needs to "let go" those instructors who teach this trash to students. As professors of BYU, they are actually going against the code of BYU just as much as any student who dresses or acts inappropriately.

SamAugust 24, 2021

I think there is another division that I do often read with Deseret News. Trump has caused great division almost Anarchy. Many in the Church feel you must be for Trump or your not going to the Celestial Kingdom. That you must be a Republican. I have concerns about both parties. Please address this. Our country is in a major pandemic and many thousands have needlessly died because of the word , Hoax. Please address this! Thank you

Colleen MoellerAugust 24, 2021

I love this article, and am so glad that Elder Holland spoke to this point. Having attended BYU a few decades ago, and having watched it closely as a place to recommend to my own children, I have been disappointed in more recent years from the public messages that seem to come from faculty and students. Thank you Elder Holland for making it clear that BYU, it’s faculty and students should always be loyal first to gospel principles and the messages of the restored gospel.

SageAugust 24, 2021

My heart breaks for the people of Afghanistan. I will continue to pray and donate for them. So sorry our pres couldn't keep 2500 soldiers there. Such a shame.

Alan BylundAugust 23, 2021

We need to keep in mind that God is good at choosing his battles. He allows us to believe certain cultural false assumptions in order to not distract from the more important messages. It is also important to understand that this is a world wide church trying to persuade leaders of nations that the church is always supportive of the governments of the countries they are allowed to participate in. Think of the message they need to send to all the leaders of all those nations. We also need to remember that the church wanted all members to feel safe at church. Those of us who are aware of the bigger picture can deal with a little inconvenience to make those less informed feel safe and avoid a major controversy which would be counterproductive to the church's mission.

Alan FlemingAugust 23, 2021

The best way to understand the sacrament is to partake of it. The best way to understand the temple is to attend it. While we can study with faith the scriptures and books by good writers, the temple is best understood by attendance in the temple itself. When we understand the atonement we will come to the sacrament table with tears of repentance and hope. When the understand the plan of salvation we will participate in temple covenant-ordinances with humilty and service. During the sacrament and in the temple we will receive revelation as we participate worthily.

Lex KAugust 23, 2021

Ever since the prophet came out with the letter encouraging getting the vaccine, people have been treating it , and seem to keep insinuating that this was a revelation and so we should all follow. No where has it been said that this is a revelation. It is a suggestion from the presidency. You are still a member in good standing if you choose not to get the vaccine.

Maryann TaylorAugust 23, 2021

In order to see a full picture here, I think bullying needs to be addressed. While there is some great advice in this article, there are times when accepting aggressive behavior is wrong. Also, whether the parent gets involved really depends on the age of the child. Sometimes parental intervention is necessary, especially if there are repeated offences. I believe it is much better for the PARENT to remain calm and to show a little empathy for the child (not dramatic coddling), rather than to immediately tell the child to "calm down." When someone tells me to "calm down," it feels like what they are really saying is, "I don't really care that you are upset, and your feelings don't really matter."

Pat DraweAugust 23, 2021

Your article is a wonderful help and reminder for believers. I believe the law of agency is so essential that careless drivers or intentional evil doers are not blocked from causing hurt or disaster, except in unusual circumstances. Have you written or would you consider writing an article about the intersection of man’s free agency and the Lord’s protection that we pray for?

Pam RoderAugust 23, 2021

I will add my voice with that of Charles McClelland. He stated my opinion exactly.

Bonnie MattsonAugust 23, 2021

Excellent article! Thank you for taking the time to share these thoughts. I love the Temple and will be glad to get back when the restrictions are lifted and my health improves.

Wally GoddardAugust 23, 2021

Good ideas. I recommend that every reader consider the five steps in emotion coaching described by John Gottman in Raising an Emotionally Intelligent Child (chapter 3).

J. RossAugust 23, 2021

Excellent article. I like the author's willingness to question his own personal beliefs. I believe most of us have had a time when we disagreed with a church issue. Sometimes it is the politically liberal among us, now it seem to be the conservatives.The point is none of us has a perfect view.If we think we know more than the prophets, we will be left on the outside.

T. BarrettAugust 23, 2021

One thing that has made the temple more meaningful to me is to take a family name through all the ordinances myself (not all on the same day). I feel a more personal connection to this ancestor and to the ordinances myself. Thank you for your article. I feel that I love the temple, but I don't love going there as much as would like to.

Joyce YoungAugust 23, 2021

I enjoyed your article. I remember the first time I went to the temple years ago, I was surprised things were so ceremonial, with lots of symbols and clothing. I didn't understand the symbols and actions so I was confused. I thought you just sat in white clothing and listened to a presentation and raised your hand to make covenants. I later learned what all the symbolism means, that it helps us remember what is said and done better than just listening. You learn al lot about the purpose of earth life and the eternities if you listen and try to feel the spirit of it all. Thanks

PamelaAugust 23, 2021

A couple years back after a RS meeting I told a sister in the ward that I wanted to gain a testimony of the temple like she had. So I went once a week for a couple months but still didn’t grasp what the big deal was. The Spirit prompted me to attend every morning. That is when I started to gain my testimony of the temple and I looked forward to communicating with the Lord each day. Now I know for myself why people love to go to the temple !

cameron steinbuschAugust 23, 2021

I live in an area that has a temple built but not dedicated yet due to covid. Some people have been in it though and the universal message is, if your claustrophobic you won't like it. I am very claustrophobic and the size of the building or room doesn't matter, you could be claustrophobic anywhere. That is my big worry that I would have a panic attack or anxiety attack there, which I have had before in the temple, elsewhere though.

Terry RichAugust 22, 2021

Thank you for your insights. The beauty of wise authors and prophets give balm to my soul.

LisaAugust 22, 2021

It is fun to see all the different ties the missionaries wear. I think it is a source of entertainment for all.

Dianne DemikAugust 21, 2021

Brother Peterson, I'm afraid I can't articulate well enough how blessed I have been by your writing and speaking over the years. This article has been so helpful to me as I finally turned off the television showing the anguish of many children of God in Afghanistan and Haiti. Thank you.

DebraAugust 21, 2021

Beautifully said!

Helen CondonAugust 20, 2021

I long ago decided that I will add 2 scripture references to my son’s gravestone: Job 1:21 and 1 Samuel 1:28 All will, indeed, be made well.

Carlos RoundyAugust 20, 2021

Through the atonement of Jesus Christ all suffering has purpose, with out the atonement, nothing in life has purpose.

SusanAugust 20, 2021

What a wonderful article filled with comfort and strength for the present and hope for the future! Thank you for this.

Candace WashburnAugust 20, 2021

What a powerful testimony of our Savior! Thank you!

CarolAugust 18, 2021

I love the quote at the end by Abraham Lincoln! And this story just proves had stupid and foolish war is!!!

Papa PotterAugust 18, 2021

Wow -- gospel truths beautifully written and very timely for me. THANKS

DonnaAugust 18, 2021

Thank you for a much-needed article! This is a fantastic wealth of information that poses the question of why so many people are pushing this agenda so quickly on our vulnerable youth. People need to hear both sides of the story, and this is the other side that is too often silenced. I hope this is circulated far and wide.

Vardell TaylorAugust 18, 2021

"It is in turning to Jesus and calling on His goodness that we are saved." Yes! just as it is in all the examples: Benjamins people, Enos, Alma, Lamoni, his father, the Lamanites in Helaman 5. We can be forgiven for all our sins, and be saved - be confident that Christ has promised us exaltation. And it can happen as we are right now; forgiveness is not dependent on a long list of performances and ordinances. Why don't we have people announcing, like Alma, I have been born again, redeemed, changed from the carnal man to a state of righteousness?

Michelle VincilAugust 18, 2021

This is such a heartbreaking struggle. It is particularly scary for a parent when you feel, while you are trying to figure things out, that you have the needs of your child, the voices of society and possible conflicts with school and public administrations that you are dealing wtih. I haven't had this exact situation but some very "modern" situations with my children. It was most helpful to realize that 1. i needed to find calm somehow so I could really talk w God and hear His voice. 2. pay attn and realize when I am moving based on fear or imagined timelines. 3 just because a voice is the loudest doesn't mean it is the correct one. Often, people who have the same questions, and would support you while you figure things out, are often the ones trying to be respectful of your "space" and don't say anything. There is a way to give love and support without pushing expectations. Finally, it was so important to shut out everybody else and make sure my child knew i loved them, was truly listening, and had the confidence that there were answers. Some of the things I dealt with took several years but as soon as I quit forcing my chosen result on my child and listened nonjudgmentally and LOVED them, things started to open up and we found a way thru. SATAN USES CONTENTION no matter the situation TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM HEARING EACH OTHER, LOVING EACH OTHER AND SUPPORTING EACH OTHER. God bless us all. He is good all the time.

AnonymousAugust 18, 2021

THANK YOU! I am so grateful to see information on the alternatives and regret of transitioning. I feel like I’ve been fighting a lost battle against common sense as Mental health professionals and the world seem to tell me to let my child do whatever they want. I 100% agree with watchful waiting and getting the child busy and involved in life. How can we get information like this out to the youth who are being fed social media that is harmful?

Herm OlsenAugust 18, 2021

Bro. Goddard has again hit the nail on the head! This is a thoughtful, gentle and merciful reminder that, in God’s eyes, we are all and each of us Pearls of Great Price. Thank you for the insights. Thank you for the kindness!

Karla SAugust 17, 2021

I made the decision to be vaccinated, due to age and comorbidities. I'm a nurse and I'm well aware of the debate, on both sides. Most of the articles you cited are not new to me and there are a lot of questions left unanswered in most of these, and other articles I have read, or with experts I have listened to. This issue is NOT settled even among the experts. I am generally pro vaccine, with a few exceptions. As with all vaccines, these Covid 19 vaccines should also be taken with INFORMED CONSENT, not MANDATED. That is the biggest issue I see among "CPDs" I know, including myself. After all, these vaccines are still "experimental" and there appears to be risks in taking them. As for mask usage, it's not 100%, whether due to using them incorrectly, or wearing ineffective cloth masks. Generally speaking, if someone has real concerns about catching Covid 19, that person should really keep that fact in mind, and limit exposure to crowds of any kind, including church services. I know most Wards are continuing Zoom access to meetings. I don't feel the Prophet is telling us NOT to be informed and not to use this information to evaluate our particular circumstances. I do agree that he is trying to help us look at those around us with compassion and empathy. Wheter "CPD" or not, we should NOT allow this virus to tear us apart as members of the Lord's Kingdom.

ReluctantAugust 17, 2021

There is very real concern about the vaccine. I had the first shot, then I got Covid. I recovered from Covid. I was feeling fine. Then I got the second shot and I have not recovered my health and it has been months since that happened. There is a problem with the vaccine for some people and I don’t believe our government is honest about it. Just because it didn’t cause problems for everyone doesn’t mean it is safe for all and we should be able to choose without creating contention.

Rita in TexasAugust 17, 2021

David M., your comments embody the article's critique of those who dismiss, harass and otherwise abuse those who have chosen to allow logic, reason and knowledge to inform their actions. Did nothing the author wrote sink in? Covid policy doubters are not heartless monsters willing to kill little children; we are thoughtful, faithful Saints who have serious questions that few want to hear, much less answer. I am unable to wear a mask or take the jab, both for medical reasons. Going to worship with my ward family has been impossible for months, and just recently I've been able to attend. Now, it looks like it will be taken away again. Even with the delta variant, children are largely immune from the kinds of problems that the elderly and those with co-morbidities generally have. Parents with medically-fragile children usually keep them at home. There are several people in my ward who haven't been able to attend church or the temple, and some of them are considering leaving the Church altogether, because of the unkind words coming from erstwhile friends and leaders. This is a complicated situation, made more so by the constantly changing narrative coming from the government and its minions. Please don't make it worse.

Patrick McLaneAugust 17, 2021

It's not about pros and cons. It's about truth vs lies. Good vs evil.

HalAugust 17, 2021

Wow! What a great article! Thank you! I have often said we are wrong to judge previous generations by present-day mores. I shudder to think how future generations may judge our current society. It gives me comfort to know that in thousands of years of human history, with millions of different cultures, and tens of billions of individuals who have lived through their own mortal experience, that there is One who is qualified to know my heart and be merciful in His judgement.

MadelineAugust 17, 2021

I love this! Awesome way to appeal to young Latter Day Saints like me :)

David BlackburnAugust 17, 2021

Thanks Duane, you have always had such a thoughtful approach, and serving with you before I know first hand of your loving concerns to present all the facts in a non- judge mental thorough way that meets the approval of the Lord. What a wonderful article, and wider perspective that can help heal divisions and feelings. The Lords ways are always higher than our own, and it’s wonderful to have our living General Authorities to guide us and lead us in these Latter Days.

Karl MillerAugust 17, 2021

Wikipedia and NPR are biased sources of information, and to cite them at the start gives an unsettling foundation to this article.

JimAugust 17, 2021

I agree the Church can advise its members to get vaccinated but I disagree that the shot is safe and effective. If it is effective why are they now saying you will need to get a booster shot every 8 months. Why are people still getting covid who have had the shot? Second, how can they say it is safe? Do they have proof that in 2 years there are no serious side effects? In 5 years? 10 years? They can't. What if there is. How will members feel then about the First Presidency statement? How many may leave the Church because of it?

RBAugust 17, 2021

It's worth noting the fact that President Nelson spent many years as a successful, brilliant cardiac surgeon. And a humble one, which isn't the norm for cardiac surgeons. He helped develop the heart/lung bypass machine, without which millions of people around the world would have died. He knows more about the workings of the human body & health than those who suddenly became infectious disease experts last year thanks to the Internet. He has a vast store of knowledge, in addition to the presence of the Spirit. I am completely fed up with those who are putting their biases as their god. This month in fast & testimony meeting, a brother stood up & basically told us all that the First Presidency are false prophets because of what they recommend regarding COVID. And this was before the latest letter. He & his wife have always been rabid anti-vaxxers. So apparently this is the hill they choose to die on. I'm all for agency, if they choose to leave the Church they should go. But I feel really sorry for their children.

Curt BassettAugust 17, 2021

Long time Duane! Your article tracks with my thinking about the need to protect the church from destruction politically. I've been thinking of the concept of the Lord commanding his prophets in the scriptures to employ stratagem. Abraham saying Sarah is his sister. Elijah leading blinded syrians to Samaria. Stratagem in Book of Mormon wars. Captain Moroni said deceit, decoys and trickery not a sin in war. Alma 43:30. Could 1st Pres be employing stratagem in our war against Secret Combination here? Flattering Caesar to misdirect and preserve Church's 501c3 status and privileges in spreading gospel? Don't have your new phone#. My old contact info is still good. Please give me a call to discuss/catch up.

AbbieAugust 17, 2021

While I can appreciate the tone and very thoughtful written article. I think the overall view should be, I am allowed to have my agency. I am allowed to make decisions for me and my family and that should be respected by all people as I respect your rights to make decisions for yourself and your family, ones that I may not agree with. The constitution was written too so that I may have that right as well, and yes slowly it has eroded, been taught incorrectly and they have over stepped their authority. The Lord highly values our agency. He will force no one and I think we all should follow his example. Name calling pointing finger, They are immature and selfish on Both sides of this debate. Trying to find common ground and actually having a real debate would be more helpful, but with dishonest reporting and too many differing expert opinions do not help and with social medial and news media censoring information it does help foster those honest debates to happen.

MelAugust 17, 2021

Thank you for your article. It has been the most diplomatic, church related piece I have read concerning COVID policies. From the official church handbook: 38.7.13 Vaccinations "Vaccinations administered by competent medical professionals protect health and preserve life. Members of the Church are encouraged to safeguard themselves, their children, and their communities through vaccination. Ultimately, individuals are responsible to make their own decisions about vaccination. If members have concerns, they should counsel with competent medical professionals and also seek the guidance of the Holy Ghost." As someone who has sought counsel with multiple competent medical professionals and also sought the guidance of the Holy Ghost as per direction from the First Presidency, the instruction I have received is different from many but right for me. Could this be an opportunity for the members of the church to have confidence in each other for doing the work of research and receiving spiritual guidance and show respect for each other even if our answers might look different?

JanAugust 17, 2021

Most thoughtful comments on history and our current society and how it treats history that I have ever heard. Presented in a meaningful way and tone. I for one plan on being more thoughtful of those from our past and the contributions they made.

Gaylinn ThompsonAugust 17, 2021

I appreciate the points and examples used in this article. Very well-written. Very illuminating and grounding. Thank you.

Ed RehderAugust 17, 2021

Thank you. A voice of reason in this world of wokeness.

Julie ArcherAugust 17, 2021

This is a wonderful article. My concern is not with members decisions to get the vaccine or not, but of how they treat those who choose differently than they do. We see in the Book of Mormon over and over that contentions arose among members because of pride. This is what we are seeing. The love of God is not in many of our hearts instead we have pride and judgment against those who believe and choose different. Our opinion matter more than love for our neighbor. Especially concerning the prophets current statement. You even see it in these comments. In such a critical time that we should humble ourselves and all unite in our faith in Christ despite little disputations Instead we are seeing contention and separation among His flock.

Kathy SandersAugust 17, 2021

Jacob, thank you for this article (and all your articles). I have five children who have left the church over such Ethnocentric ways of looking at history, both political world history and church history. It is certainly the "popular" thing to do these days and I only have one word for looking back at anyone's lives with such a certainty that they have an extra lens of understanding others missed: Arrogance. Oh that we would all humbly take Moroni's plea with the same humility he offered it and be merciful and curious, not arrogant and certain of things we can't possibly really know as we weren't there. Thank you.

Jan PetersonAugust 17, 2021

This article and some of the comments intimate that the prophet has given us a commandment, but he hasn't. He has encouraged us in one direction while leaving the opposite direction open and trusted our personal revelation and agency. Just like not getting the vaccine because of fear is the wrong choice, getting it "because the prophet did" is also spiritually and physically irresponsible. We are to seek revelation for ourselves and our stewardships.

ScottAugust 17, 2021

From my perspective, the Lord has been assisting us. Global pandemic, yet people have been inspired to create the technology over the last few decades to effectively and safely address it, just when it's needed most. And just when there's a global pandemic, who has the Lord called as His prophet? A medical doctor.

Margaret E. BatesAugust 17, 2021

This is a wonderful article and echoes all of my feelings on Covid mitigation in particular, and on following the Prophet and the Brethren as a whole regardless of the issue, in general. How can we call ourselves good Latter-day Saints in Jesus Christ's church and do less?

CricketAugust 17, 2021

First of all, you are building a straw man by saying the CDC has proven to be unreliable, then quote from it to show that it is. As long as the data fits. Soooo...I ask: why the PUSH for a vaccine (that has, according to the CDC, a 90% effective rate) for a viral infection that has a 99% recovery rate, with lifetime immunity? A vaccine is going to require boosters. I also ask why alternative treatments are not even discussed? As I understand agency, information is needed to make an unfettered choice. So why the one-sided push?

Timothy D. JohnsonAugust 16, 2021

Consider the following: D&C 84:64 And these signs shall follow those who believe- D&C 84:71 And if any man shall administer poison unto them it shall not hurt them; I am considered to be medically fragile. I have been in the hospital for surgery twice and to multiple medical facilities since the pandemic began. I am blessed with a good immune system and am seldom bothered by colds of flu. So far I have been blessed to have been protected the Covid virus other than losing my sense of taste and a few snuffles for a couple of days. Getting any of the vaccines fills me with terror as I've viewed articles that reveal what is in them or the conditions that some are manufactured in. But I cannot deny the words of Scripture. I must follow the prophet and have faith in what the Savior has promised.

T GrantAugust 16, 2021

I don't understand the controversy. Do or Do Not. Live with it.

D. MackeyAugust 16, 2021

I have always appreciated counsel from our prophets who have warned members against accepting anything taught by them on blind faith. Rather, we have been counseled to make their teachings a matter of serious study and prayer. Then be open to the personal revelation that will come by the power and influence of the Holy Ghost directing how we are to individually respond. Agency comes down to individuals who must act according to the light and knowledge they receive for themselves in their particular circumstances and within their own spheres of stewardship.

Kim MAugust 16, 2021

I wonder how many people put following the Lord first? Because if you asked Him in prayer and received an matter what that answer'd follow that direction...not man

Bruce T ForbesAugust 16, 2021

Many years ago I was in a stake conference in Arizona in which Elder Mark E. Peterson was speaking. He told stories of how the leaders agonize over wording in letters such as the one last week. He said when a letter says "We recommend", then all they're doing is recommending, nothing more and nothing less. Last week's letter "urged" us to do something; it did not "command" us. Take that letter with you into your private prayers and let the Holy Spirit guide you; that's what I did. The Spirit instructed me on what to do, and even though it's not what I want to do, I know better than to not follow the Spirit - or the prophet.

Lawrence NielsenAugust 16, 2021

Thank you. When one believes that we are lead by a living prophet, to stay on the covenant path means acceptance of counsel and obedience. I find it a complement when I am classed with the"sheeple" by the anti-maskers and anti-vacsers because I follow the the counsel of our leaders.

Heather SmurthwaiteAugust 16, 2021

This truly resonated light with my mind and heart! I appreciate it so much!

Helga SilskiAugust 16, 2021

I was very happy to read so many wonderful, positive responses. For the life of me I cannot understand how anybody that claims to be a member of the Church speaks negatively about the First Presidencies encouraging message to wear a mask and get vaccinated. If we only prayed about this subject earnestly, we would get an answer from the spirit in the affirmative. It is a great blessing to have a living Prophet on earth in these troubling times, the Lord has not forsaken us and left us in the dark, the Prophet is His mouthpiece on the earth and so are his counselors and the Quorum of the Twelve. I love, honor and sustain these brethren and I thank the Lord for them daily. Thank you Meridian Magazine for your uplifting articles, you are part of my life as are the scriptures. Thank you for spreading light and truth. God bless and continue to shower you with inspiration. Great big thank you to Duane Boyce for an excellent and lovingly presented message!

Paul HAugust 16, 2021

I'm certain there were many who thought Moses had gone loopy when he held up the brazen serpent and so they refused to gaze upon it, which was exercising their God-given agency to not follow the prophet, and we all know what happened to the "anti-gazers" don't we? I remember President Faust saying how much we would jump at the opportunity to work on the rebuilding of the Nauvoo Temple, but then asked if we would simply perform our home teaching duty. I'm at a loss as to why the extremely simple wearing of a mask or getting a vaccine (that the Prophet says was a literal God-send) would be so controversial and why anyone would believe information on the internet or social media over their own doctor's advice. But people refused to gaze at the brazen serpent, too, so I guess we're not all that different from the ancient Children of Israel, are we?

Jessica WhitakerAugust 16, 2021

Thank you for helping me reorient. I am ashamed of myself and will get vacinnated right away. Waiting for Novavax might come too late. Stubborness and pride have always been my achilles heel and throw in health, patriotism, civics, and all my cherished values and it is a perfect test. Some will be tried for wearing masks and others for not! Commit your body to Almighty God.

MKTAugust 16, 2021

From the official church handbook: 38.7.13 Vaccinations "Vaccinations administered by competent medical professionals protect health and preserve life. Members of the Church are encouraged to safeguard themselves, their children, and their communities through vaccination. Ultimately, individuals are responsible to make their own decisions about vaccination. If members have concerns, they should counsel with competent medical professionals and also seek the guidance of the Holy Ghost." This article is thought provoking for sure and presents insights that had not occurred to me before. However as someone who has sought counsel with multiple competent medical professionals and also sought the guidance of the Holy Ghost as per direction from the First Presidency, the instruction I have received is different from many but right for me. Could this be an opportunity for the members of the church to have confidence in each other for doing the work of research and receiving spiritual guidance and show respect each other even if our answers might look different?

Gary AndersonAugust 16, 2021

Thank you for this inspired article! I didn't know which way to go about wearing a mask again, but this article helped me to decide to always obey the brethren and get my own confirmation as well. I have now gotten it.

Maryann TaylorAugust 16, 2021

Oh, how I wish this article had been posted sooner!!! Just taught this lesson on Sunday in the Gospel Doctrine class.

Maryann TaylorAugust 16, 2021

This letter is absolutely mind boggling. I cannot conceive of someone worrying about their own "needs" after betraying their spouse in the worst possible way. His attitude is pouring salt into her wounds. When he can be more concerned about HER feelings and recognize what he has done to her, MAYBE he will be at a STARTING point to receive her forgiveness.

Maryann TaylorAugust 16, 2021

Having a hard time figuring out what the big deal is here. President Nelson did NOT say we have to wear face masks everywhere. He counseled us to wear them in public meetings where safe distancing is not possible. Also, he has been encouraging us to get immunized for a long time--nothing new here.

David MAugust 16, 2021

The other article in today's Meridian Magazine has dozens of reader comments. This one has none. I think that's because it's too long and confusing for the average reader who's just trying to do the right thing for his family, and not trying to justify or disprove all the conspiracy theories. My advice to ward leaders and CPD's is different than this article proposes - I'd say, act with an abundance of caution. Don't take any chances with other people's health. If you don't want to get vaccinated and wear a mask and social distance, then stay home and watch the meeting broadcast. You will never be able to live with the horror of possibly being responsible for the infection or death of an innocent child.

B CharlesAugust 16, 2021

Masking has been shown through peer-reviewed research to reduce transmission even if people don’t understand the scientific review process. The brethren shut down in-person worship before the government did. Vaccines are safe and effective as the First Presidency stated in their recent communication. There are copious amounts of data saying that this is so. What makes this announcement so confusing? If we want temples to be open we need to do whatever we can and masking and vaccination are our best tools in this war with COVID

Robert E JonesAugust 16, 2021

It is my firm belief that the General Authorities knew over 2 years ago that the pendemic or some other major problem would affect the intire world and make church meetings hard to have or even impossible. As a result they made the change to our Sunday services and made the Church of Jesus Christ a "home centered religion." While many churches faltered ours continued agains all ods. I firmly believe that more problems for the Church are coming and that the First Prisidency knows what lies ahead and is working diligenty to position the Church to be prepared to face whatever comes. If you have doubts do what we have been told time and again "not to accept a position of the First Presidency "whole cloth" but seek your own aceptance by prayer and Personal revolation.

David MAugust 16, 2021

Thank you for this article and the many insightful reader comments, most of which express gratitude for the wonderful inspired leadership of the First Presidency. I wonder if there's another lesson we need to learn through this pandemic experience - we seem to have lost the ability to rationally and calmly discuss things with each other, and wonder why everyone else seems to be so confused. One of the discussion points in this last week's 'Come Follow Me' was that Jesus Christ is the source of all light and truth. If we find ourselves needing to listen to a particular network or commentator or politician to find out what we believe about a particular issue, then maybe we've fallen prey to 'conspiring men' who distort things for their political or financial gain, and we need to reconsider our sources. This time it may only have mortal consequences, but next time it may be everlasting.

Sarah JonesAugust 16, 2021

I have been studying the Light of Christ for a few years and have come to the same understanding of what you’ve written here. I absolutely love how you’ve described everything it takes to shine with Christ’s Light. I’ve come to also understand the Light of Christ, which is different than the gifts of the Holy Ghost, is our intuition, or the small daily impressions we receive to help us know good from evil. Literally, Jesus guides us with His Light on our path of mortality as we learn to align our will with God; as we learn to have an eye single to His glory. I also like to think of the Light of Christ as Jesus’ gift to the children of God comparable in love, insight, direction, and correction as the constant companionship of the Holy Ghost is a gift given by our Father in Heaven when we covenant with Him to take upon us the name of Christ in baptism. Sincerely, thank you again for writing and sharing this piece. I’m going to share this article with everyone I know!

ScottHAugust 16, 2021

Thanks for the in-depth viewpoint. To me the benefits of being vaccinated seem self-evident. Yet the bad and inconsistent actions of government and media actors also seem obvious. President Nelson clearly regards the vaccines as answers to the faithful prayers and fasting of millions. This suggests that the Lord is able to use deeply flawed and even corrupt entities to work miracles. It is possible to be both in favor of the vaccines and opposed to political overreach.

tfAugust 16, 2021

Thank you Meridian for re-publishing this!

tfAugust 16, 2021

Perhaps Pres Nelson doesn't want to have to close the temples again?

Gaylinn ThompsonAugust 16, 2021

So well written. Excellent points and examples. Thank you for your insight.

Sandra KharaziAugust 16, 2021

Great read, very well written. I for one got the shots when the General Presidency got theirs at the beginning of all this. I felt like if they were doing it, that was enough for me.

Larry MascoAugust 16, 2021

President Benson’s 7th Fundamental in Following the Prophet: The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know. “Thou hast declared unto us hard things, more than we are able to bear,” complained Nephi’s brethren. But Nephi answered by saying, “the guilty taketh the truth to be hard, for it cutteth them to the very center” (1 Nephi 16:1, 3). Or, to put it in another prophet’s words, “Hit pigeons flutter.” Said President Harold B. Lee: You may not like what comes from the authority of the Church. It may contradict your political views. It may contradict your social views. It may interfere with some of your social life. . . . Your safety and ours depends upon whether or not we follow. . . . Let’s keep our eye on the President of the Church. [In Conference Report, October 1970, p. 152-153] But it is the living prophet who really upsets the world. “Even in the Church,” said President Kimball, “many are prone to garnish the sepulchers of yesterday’s prophets and mentally stone the living ones” (Instructor, 95:257). Why? Because the living prophet gets at what we need to know now, and the world prefers that prophets either be dead or mind their own business. Some so-called experts of political science want the prophet to keep still on politics. .... And so the list goes on and on. How we respond to the words of a living prophet when he tells us what we need to know, but would rather not hear, is a test of our faithfulness.

Richard TrippAugust 16, 2021

Good article Duane, but I think we need the Lord’s work to continue and expand which it can’t do while Covid 19 is spreading and killing so many people. Temple and missionary work nearly stopped during the early stages of the pandemic and now with vaccines both are returning to normal. I am glad we have a prophet to guide us through this pandemic.

MikeAugust 16, 2021

"Follow the Prophet, he knows the way"

JemezblueAugust 16, 2021

Thank you for this article. For many reasons, I have been rebelling quietly against mask mandates and other violations of our freedoms during Covid lockdowns. So when my Bishop read the letter from the First Presidency yesterday, I was still rebelling. I had to tell myself over and over why the First Presidency would ask us to do this. My reasoning included many of the above things mentioned in the article and I concluded that the Lord would not lead us wrong. If I believed in the church and our prophet, then I could do anything that is required. So, if a little thing like wearing a mask is involved and I did not want to obey that, then how can I be expected to obey the big things? This personal questioning was hard, especially when I was masked shamed from a fellow church member the previous week for not wearing a mask after our area seventy let us know that it was okay for us not to. I just kept thinking that the Lord would not lead us astray, so I put the mask on, but this little effort has been one of my hardest battles. It turns out that for me, it is not about fighting for our freedoms, but fighting against Satan who is striving to get all of us to rebel against our Lord. Actively obeying what the Prophet is tell us, and our Lord's representatives, is among our greatest fights for our freedoms here on earth. I felt a great peace throughout the rest of my Sunday knowing that I am obeying the Lord, even if it is a small thing like wearing a mask that our prophet asked us to wear.

Judy PetersonAugust 16, 2021

This is an excellent article. Although this isn’t one of my hot buttons—I believe the rapid vaccine development was one of the answers to our world-wide fast last year—I have faithful family members who continue to resist the vaccine and masking on political and even scientific bases. I have considered these principles on other issues that concerned me in the past, and the bottom line is always “Follow the Prophet.” Sometimes there has eventually been obvious validation. Other counsel still requires faith. “I thank Thee, Oh God, for a Prophet!”

L Norman PoulsenAugust 16, 2021

How do we console to the tens of thousands who have died from an experimental vaccine side effects when there are proven functional health protocols that drastically reduce deaths more so than the CDC protocols from all over the USA that are being censored by our "trusted" government health officials

L Norman PoulsenAugust 16, 2021

Hugh B. Brown: Official statements of the First Presidency that have not been submitted to the membership of the church for its approval are matters of temporary policy only. Under present conditions, for example, the First Presidency may say, ‘We recommend this or that.’ But conditions may subsequently change, and when they do the First Presidency may wish to make a statement which may not be in complete harmony with a former statement. We have to keep our theology up to date by submitting everything that is intended to become a permanent part of the gospel to those whose right and privilege it is to so interpret and then by having it sustained by the people as a definite rule of the church so that all things may be done by common consent. (An Abundant Life: The Memoirs of Hugh B. Brown, ed. Edwin B. Firmage [Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 1999], 124-125)

ColinAugust 16, 2021

This is a great big-picture discussion that stays out of the political muck and focuses on principles.


Excellent article. Others may wish to read the BYU Devotional talk by Elder Ezra Taft Benson (February 26, 1980) on "Fourteen Fundamentals to Following the Prophet.

Robert H. SainsburyAugust 16, 2021

I believe the work of salvation must continue on both sides of the veil. President Nelson and his counselors have shown us the way to accomplish this. Wearing a mask and getting vaccinated is a small price to pay to keep the temple open and performing ordinances for both the living and the dead.

ReyLain BloxhamAugust 16, 2021

Thank you for this insightful article. It’s nice to know I'm not the only one with these questions as I want to support and be guided by the Lords authorities on earth but feel I was/am directed to "go north". There are so many ways to feel like an outcast at church and now this is one more way. The narrative that "going north" means you are endangering those around you is exactly how this is playing out. I appreciate your supportive and informative words as I strive to "survive spiritually" through the influence of the Holy Ghost and feel I am doing the spiritual work to hear that Voice frequently and more clearly. I sure didn't expect to need it about a church "policy".

Sharee HughesAugust 16, 2021

Did I miss something? All I thought they said was to get vaccinated if you hadn't done so already, which they had already advised previously, and to wear masks in public or large gatherings, even if you have been vaccinated. With this extremely contagious delta variant, that's just common sense, so what are people upset about? I don't particularly like wearing a mask, but it sure beats getting COVID.

James ThomasAugust 16, 2021

What a great commentary about following the Brethren even when we do not always understand the why behind some of the direction. I am so grateful for the wonderful gift of living prophets and Apostles. The Lord knows better than I do what lies ahead and therefore is perfectly qualified to lead me according to what is best. When I follow the prophet I follow the Lord.

Susan NielsonAugust 16, 2021

Thank you Brother Boyce, Those are pertinent points, that we as a church have to exist within our host societies, and the Lord is not choosing this hill to die on. I have to say I felt super uncomfortable yesterday wearing a mask at church, with all the feelings swirling around my head of hating masks, not trusting corrupt government leaders, not wanting to appear as “virtue signaling” better than others. But I do want to follow the prophet. I do believe he is directed by God. So I put the stupid thing on. And I appreciate your calm, rational treatment of the facts, and your offering of new thoughts I had not considered.

Ronald BarnesAugust 16, 2021

I did not start wearing a mask until it became mandatory. I resisted the vaccine at first because of the many negative things I had heard about it. When I learned that the prophet and the apostles got the shot, I decided that they would know if it is as dangerous as I had heard. So, I got it. I still believe that the issue is more political than it is medical. We have been told that a prophet is entitled to his own opinion on any subject that the Lord has not revealed the truth concerning. We have also been told that the Lord will never allow His prophet to lead us astray. I accept that the prophet can, at times, express what is just his own opinion. However, whenever the church issues a statement signed by all three members of the First Presidency, I take notice. If we believe that these three men, especially the president, are prophets, seers, and revelators, then we need to heed what they say. No matter what the controversy may be, when they speak as a group, the controversy is over.

Kenny MazzantiAugust 16, 2021

As a missionary in Norway from 1966 to 1968, we passed out a pamphlet entitled, "A Church for all The World". President Nelson leads that church for all of the world and must consider, with the Lord's direction, all of the places the Church must further the work of Salvation. We must also individually live our religion. That includes Article of faith 12 which says, “We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.” Recommending vaccination does not interfere with my personal agency. I still have my choice on the matter. But, it does further the work of the Lord by respecting all the various governments worldwide. The work will roll forth to every nation, kindred, tongue and people with or without us.

Blaine D WilcoxAugust 16, 2021

Powerful true message Duane! Thanks! Smile :-)

Barbara B.August 16, 2021

Thank you for this. It has helped me remember a lot of what I had forgotten. The Lord is in charge and is guiding us through our prophet. I sustain him, his counselors and the Quorum of the 12 at each conference, it's past time I remember that and what it means to ",sustain". Again, thank you for this article.

SmilyAugust 16, 2021

I am reminded of a story where a man is stranded on his roof in a flood and prays for God to save him. God sends multiple ways of help his way including a boat and a helicopter. He refuses because he’s waiting for God to save him. When he drowns, he asks God why his prayer wasn’t answered. God explains that he sent him help (boat and helicopter, etc.) Are we taking advantage of the lifesaving methods God has inspired men with? The leaders in the church have reaffirmed that these are the methods that will save lives. If you go back and listen, this isn’t the first time they’ve mentioned that masks will save lives, etc. they also set the example earlier in the year by publicly getting their vaccinations. (Follow the Prophet) I am so excited about the mRNA technology in the vaccines. They have been working on it for years and it is said the technology could lead to even a vaccine for MS eventually. A disease which I have. God inspires men and directs them in our lives whether they belong to our church or not. Look at all of the technology we’ve been given to better our lives. Do you think it was just invented by chance? Then the masks. What a simple thing to save lives. Take charge of your own life and grab onto these methods that the Lord has provided us with. I just got my third booster shot two days ago since I am immunocompromised. I am so thankful to God for providing these ways for me to choose to grab hold of in order to save my own life and the lives of those around me.

MistyAugust 16, 2021

Thank you for the additional hindsight and perspective to consider. The Lord’s work has always been about the bigger eternal picture than the thoughts and mindset of the individual(s). I’ll continue to pray for my own confirmation one way or another.

MerriwynAugust 16, 2021

I am surprised that anyone was worried by that announcement. We prayed as a people for quick development of vaccines and were rewarded with miracles. It would be churlish not to accept the miracles that the Lord has granted us.

Charles McClellandAugust 16, 2021

Excellent, timely article that I hope will be read by those who are struggling with this decision by the General Authorities.

BIHAugust 16, 2021

I am absolutely at a loss to see how President Nelson and the rest of the First Presidency asking Church members to get vaccinated, wear masks, and socially distance is a BAD thing! This is to assist in curtailing the spread of a deadly virus and its variants all over the world. Why on earth would a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints protest this? This seems like insanity to me to be against protecting our family, neighbors, and the nation/world at large. And the cry of "personal freedom" is a strawman when it comes to a worldwide health crisis. Do we claim "personal freedom" when it comes to speed limits, seat belts, etc.?

KathleenAugust 15, 2021

They would be my support, as well! Kind of sad, yet realistically funny.

Elizabeth Colyer GoodwinAugust 15, 2021

I’m pretty sure that this article was written in response to my sister, as the female apostate quoted on Facebook. If the words quoted in the article weren’t written by her, I will be shocked. I’ve been grieving and wondering if there will ever be anything that I can say, when she is ready, to turn her heart back to the Savior. Thank you, Maurine, for giving me eyes to see how that could be done. I loved your inspired, Christ-centered thoughts on the matter.

Gloy JorgensenAugust 15, 2021

A most touching and loving story. We all have to let people go at some point and the loss is always difficult regardless of the age or manner of death.

Harold RustAugust 15, 2021

I have learned that before we judge another person’s willingness to help, we should recognize almost every member would want to help and they will eagerly be ready to help if…… they understand the need is genuine, they have resources or ability to help, and that by helping they are committed long term for more than they can handle.

Nicole ClementAugust 14, 2021

Thank you so much for this article. I have that destructive voice in my head too, all the time; and I didn't really realize where it was coming from. I always feel guilty for not doing enough, even though in reality I am doing a lot and doing the best I can do. This was a very enlightening article. Thank you for helping me understand this new viewpoint.

Mark MathesonAugust 14, 2021

Jen will do wonders at Care For Life. Follow and support her exploits there.

Mark DonaldsonAugust 14, 2021

Thank you for taking what is sometimes a very hard topic to understand (Light) and wording it with such clarity that it can be easily understood!

Sandy MAugust 13, 2021

This is wonderful .. thank you so much

Richard JukesAugust 13, 2021

Wonderful article! Thank you for sharing your experiences and insights.

Matthew HawsAugust 13, 2021

Thanks for this article. Sometimes I feel that we in the church don't give enough attention to this doctrine/idea/concept. Light has a far greater impact on us and the universe around us than we think.

DonAugust 13, 2021

When you cheat on your wife, you should have no expectation that she will do anything other than demand you move out, dump you, divorce you, request a cancellation of sealing, etc. Anything else is on her terms. YOU ARE THE ADULTERER. You can't whine your way out of the situation you behaved your way into.

ReaderAugust 13, 2021

Wow! This is amazing! I was thrilled in studying D&C 88 this week and how the Light of Christ is the glue/power behind all things in the universe, big and small, and your insights open up new vistas for me. Thank you for pondering and sharing.

Trinity OlsenAugust 13, 2021

Thank you so much for being inspired to write this article! I have been trying to explain to a son of mine how science and truth and light are an integral part of Heavenly Father’s being and that we have access to that same power and knowledge. I have prayed for a way to explain these truths to him. Your article has hit the nail on the head for me and answered my prayer. I’m going to share this with my son and pray that he is receptive to the message in your words.

Colleen HarrisonAugust 13, 2021

Thank you for this beautiful article. It was a great blessing to read it.

@WalkinghandinhandwithgodAugust 13, 2021

Thank you for this! I have so much compassion for betrayers, they really are victims in their own right, but it is on them to grow in the ways they have failed to develop over the years. Yes growing hurts, yes, it means learning not to rely on others for validation and a sense of self, yes it means increasing your level of tolerance for discomfort and vulnerability, it means becoming less selfish and more caring, it means relying on the Lord to help you deal with your hurts, to see her anger for what it is—pain and fear, and to be able to offer compassion, comfort, reassurance, and love unfeigned.

Isaac C "Ike" FergusonAugust 13, 2021

Wow!!! Brother Franklin's treatise on light was both insightful and compelling. Thank you for sharing your intellectual understanding of light scientifically, and the applying it so neatly doctrinally and in practicality. A great piece I shall keep as a reminder of light and truth, which comes by "hardening not your heart" and having a willing mind. Bless you for your insights.

NolaAugust 13, 2021

Thank you for this enlightening article.

Kathy Sutton (Please do not print my name for the comment)August 12, 2021

I am disappointed that you did not mention the use of sign language. Many of us who are deaf cannot depend on hearing aids to understand what s being said.

MaureenAugust 12, 2021

I had a deaf sister in one of the wards that I lived in and anytime that I gave a talk in church I would always print out a copy of it and give it to her so that she could read it and get an idea of the content that I would be using in my talk. She told me that she was very appreciative that I would do that for her, and that I was the only one that did that for her.

CoreyAugust 12, 2021

Excellent article, well written and explained. I think I'm no different than most active, faithful members/Christians, if you were to ask I would tell you that I keep the commandments but I struggle with total obedience or what the scriptures refer to as 'obedience in all things'. There is a verse in the Doctrine and Covenants that has always been interesting to me, it say's referring to the Lord communicating to Joseph Smith, 'and gave unto him commandments which inspired him', every time I read that I think to myself, am I inspired by the commandments ? I think we also tend to categorize things, at least I do, we label some things commandments and some things rules and place more emphasis on one than the other. We also label things as inspired or coming from God and those things that come from man and again give importance or priority to one over the other. Certainly the commandments are of supreme importance because of their eternal significance but I think to become like the Savior we have to be humble and obedient even in the small things and that's a challenge at least for me because like you mention or infer we don't like to be told what to do.

No nameAugust 12, 2021

Mask wearing completely deletes ability to have a conversation for hard of hearing. We have to read your lips. It is a struggle to attend church meetings now.

Maryann TaylorAugust 12, 2021

This article is also a reminder to keep all medications, including those in purses out of the reach of children.

Maryann TaylorAugust 11, 2021

I absolutely agree that none of us should be labeling others as selfish for deciding not to get the vaccine. There is a LOT of conflicting information out there regarding EVERYTHING about COVID, and also the vaccine. I just read that it was recently discovered that the reported number of people with the disease in Florida alone was inflated by almost 13,000 above the actual number! I decided for myself to receive the vaccine as soon as I could because of President Nelson's encouragement and example. However, I do NOT in any way judge or condemn those who choose not to get it. The disease is bad enough without adding spiritual warfare. AND---we need to put things into perspective by remembering we are much more statistically likely to die from many other things.

Maryann TaylorAugust 11, 2021

I wonder if the visit was the result of the Priesthood blessing. I have a strong testimony of Priesthood blessings and perhaps sending Amber to comfort her friend was the best way to fulfill it. This is such a very heartbreaking story, but I am glad your family has the gospel and faith in Heavenly Father to sustain you.

Maryann TaylorAugust 11, 2021

I had to chuckle when you mentioned your frustration at the places in our scriptures where we are informed that the writer cannot tell us all he knows or saw. I want to know! I trust the Lord to reveal the sealed portion of the Book of Mormon when we are ready to receive it, but I can't help longing for it now. I want to read Adam's record in the Plates of Brass and everything else we don't yet have. Ok--I KNOW--Patience! I just keep hoping that if we spend more time studying what we DO have, the Lord will reveal the rest.

Maryann TaylorAugust 11, 2021

I appreciate your comment about avoiding competition between the sexes. I am also tired of television and movies that promote enmity between men and women. It has become very popular to portray women as tough and rude, and men as dumb and weak. I think it would be great for husbands and wives to discuss ways they can communicate to their children, by example and word, the importance of unity and cooperation between the sexes.

Maryann TaylorAugust 11, 2021

I have extremely poor hearing and, although hearing aids help, I still have a hard time hearing in Relief Society. I finally stopped attending and leave after Sacrament Meeting. It is just too frustrating. I know that many leaders and teachers don't want to use microphones, but that would be one simple way of helping people with this problem. I know there are many other members who feel the same way I do. It seems ironic to teach lessons about serving and meeting the needs of others, while at the same time ignoring the hard of hearing.

Scot ProctorAugust 11, 2021

LaRae F KerrAugust 11, 2021

Tell me about the painting accompanying this article. How can I buy a copy of it?

Debbi M.August 11, 2021

“to be more appreciative of what other human beings can do and more patient with what they cannot do” So profound! What wisdom is in this sentence...I only pray I can incorporate this into my daily routine as I struggle to be patient with erring children and grandchildren that I love so dearly. We all have our own journey through this life.

carolyn nicolaysenAugust 11, 2021

The Church's self-reliance program includes several classes meant to help people care for their own needs no matter what their circumstances. I have facilitated the personal finance and starting and growing your own business classes and they are great. The church also offers a class on finding a job, getting an education and emotional resiliance and they have piloted one for teens as well. I too wish they would talk more about emergencies and preparing specifically for them, but since they aren't I guess that is our job to share what we know.

carolyn nicolaysenAugust 11, 2021

Jill, What a challenge. Can you eat freeze dried or dehydrated? I don't usually recommend storing those except for some ingredients because you need so much water to reconstitute. In your case it may be an answer. You can freeze many foods like eggs, which few understand.

Monte MortensenAugust 11, 2021

Becky, as always you express yourself in such openness an